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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)

Lol dude, you wanted to know, I ask the guy to okay me sharing the opening and you're still saying stuff like this.

You're taking issue with the fact that I called your post a "claim?" Why wouldn't I call it that? There's no evidence to support the scenarios you're describing other than your apparent belief in what your friend has told you.

Again, you're hanging onto what you think these characters were based on footage released by the studio. What you read earlier was from footage Disney never released because they rewrote Erso's character completely along with some others. Basically, none of Erso's original scenes would make any sense if inserted into Gilroy's cut. The Erso in Gilroy's cut is essentially a good man. The Erso in Edwards' original cut isn't.

"Gareth's original cut." There you go again. He either directed the studio approved script or he didn't.

The studio probably hated what Erso was and what in result made Jyn out to be, and had Gilroy rewrite those characters.

"Probably?" I thought you knew for a fact because your friend personally watched the rough cut with the higher ups at Disney.

Here's what we know:

Trailer One in April 2016 is released with tons of footage that didn't make it into the theatrical release like Jyn running through the Scarif base with plans in hand and across the beach.

Trailer Two is released during the Summer Olympics in August with a couple other shots that didn't make it into the finished film (Jyn staring down the TIE Fighter, etc.)

Then it's revealed that Tony Gilroy was brought on board *in August* to tweak parts of the script and shoot additional footage.

Then everything stated by Gareth, the studio, the other editors, etc., all support the notion that Gilroy added additional character intros, some extra scenes at the end, and then shot a couple segue scenes to tie it all together. All the footage that we saw in the trailers is explained and fits with the timelines, there's no "he said, she said" of any kind.

But then you come and claim that LFL either approved a Tarantino-esque script from Day 1 (which contradicts all other public info) and then changed their minds literally four months before the film was going to hit theaters and had Tony Gilroy write and direct essentially a brand new movie from scratch or that Gareth Edwards somehow had been shooting his own movie unbeknownst to Kennedy and the powers that be for over a year until again, with only four months to spare, Kennedy finally realized what Gareth had done and brought Gilroy in to redo the entire movie while still being all smiles with Gareth. I'm sorry man but it just doesn't add up at all.
 
Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)

He either directed the studio approved script or he didn't.

I thought you knew for a fact because your friend personally watched the rough cut with the higher ups at Disney.

Well the script had to have been approved. There's no way he shot what you read earlier without permission. And yes, the person who shared that with me watched a finished cut.

Again, Kennedy and the studio agreed to the movie Edwards shot. Once they watched it they clearly realized they weren't into it and brought in Gilroy to "fix" it.

Its all very similar to what's happening with Lord and Miller. The studio watched their cut and said "Nope, this isn't working. Let's fix it." Even though said cut they didn't like was most def what was on the page when production started.
 
Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)

That's a lot of logic there, Khev... but it's not even that complicated. The SNIKT scene itself as described would never get passed Kennedy/Disney in a pitch meeting, let alone a shoot.

Plus, where's the footage of this location where troopers are loading prisoners on transports and into camps near a corner café? That's a huge scene to shoot and a complex location to stage as described -- they would have used something from that somewhere in the movie. Maybe in Jedha City, but there's nothing like that there.
 
Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)

Its all very similar to what's happening with Lord and Miller. The studio watched their cut and said "Nope, this isn't working. Let's fix it." Even though said cut they didn't like was most def what was on the page when production started.

Seems to me the issue with them was their taking the time to shoot improvisational scenes while not getting enough coverage to have options in the editing room.
 
Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)

That's a lot of logic there, Khev... but it's not even that complicated. The SNIKT scene itself as described would never get passed Kennedy/Disney in a pitch meeting, let alone a shoot.

Plus, where's the footage of this location where troopers are loading prisoners on transports and into camps near a corner café? That's a huge scene to shoot and a complex location to stage as described -- they would have used something from that somewhere in the movie. Maybe in Jedha City, but there's nothing like that there.

No, it wasn't Jedha.
 
Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)

No, it wasn't Jedha.

No, I know that -- but having shot that scene (a big scene you describe that cost a lot of money) you would think they would try to salvage some stuff (cutaways, background action at least) and add it to the movie somewhere (I threw Jedha City out as the only place that stuff might fit in -- another Occupied City).
 
Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)

No, I know that -- but having shot that scene (a big scene you describe that cost a lot of money) you would think they would try to salvage some stuff (cutaways, background action at least) and add it to the movie somewhere (I threw Jedha City out as the only place that stuff might fit in -- another Occupied City).

It was all CGI, like that final beach scene. :wave
 
Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)

I think Disney could have done the scene.....it wouldn't be off the table because of violence or anything.....it's stupid for sure. Takes Galen from Frankenstein like to Hannibal Lecter like. And that makes his character unsympathetic

Disney has no problems showing someone get executed....
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)

You're taking issue with the fact that I called your post a "claim?" Why wouldn't I call it that? There's no evidence to support the scenarios you're describing other than your apparent belief in what your friend has told you.



"Gareth's original cut." There you go again. He either directed the studio approved script or he didn't.



"Probably?" I thought you knew for a fact because your friend personally watched the rough cut with the higher ups at Disney.

Here's what we know:

Trailer One in April 2016 is released with tons of footage that didn't make it into the theatrical release like Jyn running through the Scarif base with plans in hand and across the beach.

Trailer Two is released during the Summer Olympics in August with a couple other shots that didn't make it into the finished film (Jyn staring down the TIE Fighter, etc.)

Then it's revealed that Tony Gilroy was brought on board *in August* to tweak parts of the script and shoot additional footage.

Then everything stated by Gareth, the studio, the other editors, etc., all support the notion that Gilroy added additional character intros, some extra scenes at the end, and then shot a couple segue scenes to tie it all together. All the footage that we saw in the trailers is explained and fits with the timelines, there's no "he said, she said" of any kind.

But then you come and claim that LFL either approved a Tarantino-esque script from Day 1 (which contradicts all other public info) and then changed their minds literally four months before the film was going to hit theaters and had Tony Gilroy write and direct essentially a brand new movie from scratch or that Gareth Edwards somehow had been shooting his own movie unbeknownst to Kennedy and the powers that be for over a year until again, with only four months to spare, Kennedy finally realized what Gareth had done and brought Gilroy in to redo the entire movie while still being all smiles with Gareth. I'm sorry man but it just doesn't add up at all.

Well the script had to have been approved. There's no way he shot what you read earlier without permission. And yes, the person who shared that with me watched a finished cut.

Again, Kennedy and the studio agreed to the movie Edwards shot. Once they watched it they clearly realized they weren't into it and brought in Gilroy to "fix" it.

Its all very similar to what's happening with Lord and Miller. The studio watched their cut and said "Nope, this isn't working. Let's fix it." Even though said cut they didn't like was most def what was on the page when production started.

 
Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)

Lol I had a feeling Khev wouldn't like hearing about this.

It compromises his unquestionable faith in Lucasfilm and the public narratives they've employed regarding what happened on RO.

The Edwards cut should be released as a DC in the future when Kennedy and the other current suits are long retired and nobody cares if it makes them look bad. Same goes for the Lord/Miller cut of HS.
 
Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)

Khev try to live forever eventually Disney will release the Lord and Miller cut and the hard R cut of Gareth's RO B&W Noir edition.
 
Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)

RO does not need another cut.....its good as it is.

The other cut may have sucked....


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