Somehow Rey Returned

[Sachiel]

I honestly can't tell if this is making fun of gen wha⚥ever, or a legit sentiment?

I'm Reyphobic.

Spoiler

 

[Khev]

Apprentice Diary, Day 10:

 

[MeatHookGekko]

If I were to guess at Disney announcing and canceling near immediately Rey movie, someone announced something that was never planned as a power move, then someone superceded KKs authority?

That's my best guess at this debacle. I done with Star Wars and have no horse in this race, could care less about Mando or Rey or whatever the mouse makes, but makes sense this was some sort of power move with announcing the Rey movie.

There are concerns about the last four months of 2024, and depending on the the context and circumstances, that might bleed into the first six months of 2025. Basically coordinated widespread burning, looting and rioting in major cities. Also the possibility of another pandemic related lockdown. ( The mechanics of that are relatively complex, but I'll leave that right there...) The domino effect would be to see the "local movie theater" system completely collapse. Also ancillary to that would massive reboots of heavy restrictions and regulations to refilm during a "lockdown" This would cascade into massive budgetary overruns.

Section 230 will likely be challenged. In a brutal fashion. When it does, that will impact advertising and marketing rollouts ( which faces the reality that the majority of American adults in their prime earning years are getting their current events/news from social media platforms) It's going to ask major corporations to possibly simultaneously be engaged in lawsuits with big tech and major social media companies while also trying to advertise on them ( The sticking points will be bots, shadow bans and getting legal discovery in the algorithms. Advertising buy in rates are determined by metrics, if those metrics are cooked, and intentionally done, now you have fraud. This is not the kind of fraud that gets washed away easily. This is the kind of fraud where the simplest solution means to just start killing people. Literally wiping out people who work for the same company, just in lower ranks that know too much)

Institutional level investors will eventually face massive lawsuits. DEI and ESG mandates are not that hard to discern as a breach of basic "fiduciary duty" to shareholders. When we are often talking about public pension money, now that has a stacking effect. There is also a major split in the industry over the current conflict overseas. A large cross section of the back end of the industry is Jewish. There are currently no shortage of open and not so open "purity tests" to determine who should be working, who should be cast, who should be working with whom and what is considered effective boundaries to not allow that to bleed into the money aspect of things. Battle lines are being drawn and now things that were previously hidden or avoided might end up in the open cancel culture. Steven Spielberg was considered bullet proof once he won the Oscar for Schindler's List. Wouldn't take a ton at this point to completely cancel him now and devastate his entire Hollywood legacy. All of it.

Personally, I consider Kathleen Kennedy to be an imbecile. She's good at some logistical issues and she was just self aware enough to document everything and figure out where all the bodies were buried when she was just an entry level industry chickenhead. But even some of this stuff is out of her control.

Basic sticking points. Adam Driver is not coming back under the current conditions. To get him back, you need to trade him something, probably a pet/passion project he wants that will likely lose lots of money, in exchange. Even that might not be enough. Kennedy needed to be smarter than to lock in a young actor like Driver, with his temperament, with a cokehead like Harrison Ford. Of course the end result would be a toxic experience. It's not like Driver can talk about this in the press. You pacify someone like Ford in the same way Ridley Scott was able to manage Russell Crowe in Gladiator, use more star firepower. Crowe is a mess, a problem waiting to happen, but he wasn't going to pull that **** with Richard Harris around. He, like many actors in his timeline, worshipped someone like Harris. Kennedy needed a true legacy Hollywood titan to balance out the kind of unneeded potential drama that Ford would bring. You get two possibilities with Ford now. The somewhat mellowed out version where he's gotten the right balance of coke as he mails in his performance. Or the psychotic version where he's either had too much or too little coke as he mails in his performance. Ford was irrevocably self broken as a performer the moment he figured out he would not win an Oscar for Regarding Henry. Also it's functionally impossible to drag back a dead character. To what end? Like Patty Jenkins in Wonder Woman 1984, where there's a body swap situation, and then what amounts to ****/sexual violation of a total stranger, for fan service, then to just pretend nothing wrong happened to find a desperate way to bring back Chris Pine?

Right now, the focus seems to be, I'm hearing recently, to make a live action version of The Bad Batch. Which would be a good decision actually IMHO. A bit desperate but that is still fertile narrative ground.

The potential Shadows Of The Empire stuff is more complicated, as there are contractual and logistical road blocks there, but the entire Prince Xizor / Dash Rendar stuff hasn't been totally ignored in the past few years. The gap zone between ESB and ROTJ is also fertile narrative ground, however, again, contractual complications within that entire matrix.

Let's see what happens. However, the priority, right now, IMHO, is the survival of the average local movie theater. None of this matters if those are crushed into pulp financially. There are larger elements with different agendas in play where the film industry might be collateral damage here. There's irony in that. Jeffrey Katzenberg spent all that money, time, blood and energy, along with the pure carnage for decades, to fundraise so this could be the end result.

The circumstances are bizarre and pathetic in their own right. But something to remember is, at a very core level, this is still just a job and just people going to work like everywhere else. Many of you go to work and you watch chaos and unneeded drama and petty madness unfold for basically no reason at all. It's not like the industry is magically different. It's just got a bigger spotlight. In total, the saying is true - "People are going to people"

 

[Wor-Gar]

Apprentice Diary, Day 10:

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Is there a whole collection of these? The **** version must be massive.

 

[jaztermareal]

Is there a whole collection of these? The **** version must be massive.

Don't go down that rabbit hole.














Rey is still a little sore from earlier.

 

[ironwez20]

Is there a whole collection of these? The **** version must be massive.

lol yes and like someone said don't even go down that rabbit hole. It's disgusting what people come up with.

 

[Wor-Gar]

So many have checked it out

 

[Felinx]

lol yes and like someone said don't even go down that rabbit hole. It's disgusting what people come up with.

Try googling slave leia and see what comes up further down the list. There seems to have been for many years an entire fan fiction subculture centred around Jabba and Leia slave.

 

[JAWS]

I don’t even know where to begin with all this.

In any reality based world KK would have been fired long ago.

 

[Khev]

I don’t even know where to begin with all this.

 

[jaztermareal]

So many have checked it out

For science.

 

[ironwez20]

I don’t even know where to begin with all this.

In any reality based world KK would have been fired long ago.

She’s got… the list . That rodent has been on that island and goofy . You didn’t hear it from me though

 

[ebor]

There was probably a clause in his contract that said any release of the theatrical cuts voids the sale to Disney and all ownership rights revert back to him.

 

[Sixth Scale Man]

There was probably a clause in his contract that said any release of the theatrical cuts voids the sale to Disney and all ownership rights revert back to him.

Yeah, I’m sure there would have been all sorts of conditions to the sale. I know it’s a fantasy to get the OT released properly.
Just a shame.
This cyclonic sludge of a s*** show that Kennedy hath wrought still can’t diminish my love of the originals though. I’ve been building a 1/32 TIE Fighter model kit this week and I still marvel at the design.

 

[ScoutingForToys]

Yeah, I’m sure there would have been all sorts of conditions to the sale. I know it’s a fantasy to get the OT released properly.
Just a shame.
This cyclonic sludge of a s*** show that Kennedy hath wrought still can’t diminish my love of the originals though. I’ve been building a 1/32 TIE Fighter model kit this week and I still marvel at the design.

Wish that was still the case for me. I can't look at anything Star Wars, even the OT, without seeing a rapid slideshow of all the horrors Disney has wrought upon us.
It's like Cenobite Kathleen Kennedy is telling me she has such sights to show me, whilst beaming choice clips from the ST, BoBF, Kenobi, Mando season 3 and Ahsoka into my brain.
I look at TESB Luke battling Vader and the image of old man Luke drinking frothy green milk directly from a sea monsters disgusting droopy *** pops up behind my eyes.
Boba is talking back to Vader "he's worth a lot to me" then suddenly, a flash of "like a Bantha".
Star Wars is just hell to me now.

 

[jaztermareal]

Wish that was still the case for me. I can't look at anything Star Wars, even the OT, without seeing a rapid slideshow of all the horrors Disney has wrought upon us.
It's like Cenobite Kathleen Kennedy is telling me she has such sights to show me, whilst beaming choice clips from the ST, BoBF, Kenobi, Mando season 3 and Ahsoka into my brain.
I look at TESB Luke battling Vader and the image of old man Luke drinking frothy green milk directly from a sea monsters disgusting droopy *** pops up behind my eyes.
Boba is talking back to Vader "he's worth a lot to me" then suddenly, a flash of "like a Bantha".
Star Wars is just hell to me now.

I can still mostly partition the good from the bad but my view of Star Wars has definitely been tainted. I guess if enough crap comes out I will hit the "I am done with all Star Wars" mindset.


The only way to save Star Wars and make it a profitable lasting franchise again and win back the old fans along with new ones is to just delete the sequels from canon (along with the bad shows) and replace them with better ones. That way all that bad Star Wars becomes bad "what if" fanfic. It is just a shame that the OT cast is no longer complete. Even if they come back for remake sequels it won't be all of them

 

[jaztermareal]

Hopefully the new Rey movie will be fully inclusive and include dialogue for a modern audience:

 

[Khev]

I look at TESB Luke battling Vader and the image of old man Luke drinking frothy green milk directly from a sea monsters disgusting droopy *** pops up behind my eyes.
Boba is talking back to Vader "he's worth a lot to me" then suddenly, a flash of "like a Bantha".
Star Wars is just hell to me now.

Thankfully I'm still able to keep them easily separated. Of course having nice copies of the original theatrical editions helps. If I heard Temeura's voice in ESB then yeah I'd probably have bantha riding Sarlacc faceplanting Fett flashbacks as well.

Those two versions of Star Wars are as different to me as The Batman and Batman & Robin are with each other, or T1 vs Dark Fate, ALIENS and Alien: Resurrection and so on.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Is that really how kids talk today?

 

[ScoutingForToys]

Thankfully I'm still able to keep them easily separated. Of course having nice copies of the original theatrical editions helps. If I heard Temeura's voice in ESB then yeah I'd probably have bantha riding Sarlacc faceplanting Fett flashbacks as well.

Those two versions of Star Wars are as different to me as The Batman and Batman & Robin are with each other, or T1 vs Dark Fate, ALIENS and Alien: Resurrection and so on.

Oh it's been so long since I last watched the original cut of Star Wars.
The special editions/DVD/Bluray updates aren't all bad. The tidying up and smoothing out etc. I'm not opposed to the additions to Cloud City either.
But the Greedo shooting first, then shooting together in the next tweak. That awful CG Jabba in ANH. Lucas also got carried away with adding CG creatures and vehicles in the Mos Eisly scenes. The horrid CG dance number in RoTJ. Vader's "nooooooooooooo" *shudder*
It just goes on and on.
Give me an original, just clean it up. Keep the various puppets, Han shoots first etc etc.