Sons Of Anarchy Discussion

[quadcent]

Nope. He just told Romeo to wait until he heard from him. But whether Clay okays it or not, we've already seen Romeo saying it's out of Clay's hands and happening regardless.

oh yeah that's right, couldn't quite recall what was said.

 

[quadcent]

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I'm not that familiar with the Mexican justice system, so how would this work?? Romeo is a federale who has infiltrated the cartel?? He and his crew are federales masquerading as a cartel?? So, essentially the federales are the Mexican FBI? Romeo is working with the FBI to bring down the IRA and SOA??. . . which doesn't really make sense because Potter has mentioned being able to bring down all three groups, Cartel, Irish and the Sons with his sting. And given the omniscient view we have as the audience, Potter wouldn't say this outright in front of his people if they were all in on it.

Spoiler

Wouldn't be the first time that one agency didn't know what the other was up to, especially from differant countries

 

[bumblebee]

We know Lincon Potter rides, and to me he somewhat looks like JT. Family member of JT maybe who wants to see the club changed(Clay in charge and the gun running).

 

[thenammagazine]

Spoiler

I'm not that familiar with the Mexican justice system, so how would this work?? Romeo is a federale who has infiltrated the cartel?? He and his crew are federales masquerading as a cartel?? So, essentially the federales are the Mexican FBI? Romeo is working with the FBI to bring down the IRA and SOA??. . . which doesn't really make sense because Potter has mentioned being able to bring down all three groups, Cartel, Irish and the Sons with his sting. And given the omniscient view we have as the audience, Potter wouldn't say this outright in front of his people if they were all in on it.

Spoiler

There's no way in hell the an Assistant US Attorney would be able to bring down a cartel, or even the IRA without international help. Outside of the borders is outside of his jurisdiction. So it makes sense that they're working with someone on the Cartel's side. He'd only be able to nab those operating on US soil and potentially build a case and utilize the extradition treaty with the UK for the IRA guys. Mexico has no such treaty with the US which further hints at Romeo being a Federale. It could also be that Romeo's both a Federale and a lead player in the Cartel too, given Mexico's high level of corruption. Hopefully we'll find out Tuesday.

From Wikki: The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly referred to as the RICO Act or simply RICO, is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

So jurisdiction would end at the US borders. I'm just hoping that Sutter's not dumb enough to think an assistant US Attorney has enough power for what Potter's attempting (or dumb enough to think that those of us who know what RICO is would buy it). I'm also surprised there's not a UK or at the very least an Interpol representative given the case is built against the IRA too.

 

[Morbach]

oh yeah that's right, couldn't quite recall what was said.

yeah Romeo isn't playing around. With or without Clay's say they're targeting her.

 

[quadcent]

yeah Romeo isn't playing around. With or without Clay's say they're targeting her.

Spoiler

but if one of them is working for the federallies, then she could get taken as if she was to be killed but then gets put into a safe house

 

[Kamandi]

Never trust previews.

I learned from BSG to never trust "Previously on..." either.

 

[bumblebee]

Tonight!!!!!!!!!

 

[barryo]

Tonight!!!!!!!!!

damn, i'm kinda amped for this........

 

[Morbach]

I'm pumped!

 

[urascal]

Any guesses on who's going to die tonight? If Gemma gets whacked it will bring the heat off Clay long enough to recover and start next season with drama.

It will also create a common enemy if the Cartel or 9er's takes her out instead of Tara. This will put Opie's revenge on ice for a while. Clay lives to avenge her death.

 

[Morbach]

That was a weak ass finale. I'm disappointed.

 

[bumblebee]

Not gonna lie, I'm a bit let down.

 

[Something Sexy]

WTF was that? I thought that was a massive cop out.

 

[Morbach]

WTF was that? I thought that was a massive cop out.

That is exactly what I thought.

 

[SwedishHeat]

Seems like they should have just made last week a 90 minute ep.

Also, I think the finale also puts to bed the Hamlet story parallels, like "Yeah, that's how this story started, but it's going to go in a completely different direction now."

Juice watching The Shield made me smile, though. Too bad it wasn't a scene with Lem in it, that would've been awesome.

It will be interesting what they do with Gemma and Clay next season seeing as how the recent events have effectively neutered both of those characters. Is Ron Perlman really just going to sit at the table next year for 13 episodes?? Jax has already committed to staying and that's all Gemma's wanted, so what is she going to do?? Charlie Hunnam has already gone on record stating he thinks Jax should tell Gemma to bugger off. It just seems like those two characters have written themselves out of the story.

 

[thenammagazine]

Did I call that shizzle or what?

 

[isculpt]

I didn't find it weak what so ever...tempered but not weak. Charlie Hunnam deserves an Award this year. I really got a Godfather vibe from this episode. Sure people didn't die left and right but so many milestones happened in the episode. Momentarily it wasn't as extreme as past episodes this season but big picture wise, it is definitely a milestone episode.

 

[thenammagazine]

I didn't find it weak what so ever...tempered but not weak. Charlie Hunnam deserves an Award this year. I really got a Godfather vibe from this episode. Sure people didn't die left and right but so many milestones happened in the episode. Momentarily it wasn't as extreme as past episodes this season but big picture wise, it is definitely a milestone episode.

I dunno, I thought it was pretty weak as well. I also agree with SwedishHeat that after this, any sort of Hamlet storyline will feel contrived as you can see that Sutter's milking the story for a 5th season which will probably be just as predictable. We know the Niners will be after SAMCRO, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Clay, with Tig try to retake the club after Jax's move by targeting both him and Gemma. Also thought the whole BS with the Irish, after stating they need SAMCRO to run the weapons, was weak too.

Though I do like how Potter handled Hale's attempt at the Charming Heights development. I 'd.

 

[Something Sexy]

The episode overall was fine as a standard episode but not really a finale.

Spoiler

My major problem though was the cop out with the whole CIA thing. That was WAY too easy for an excuse to not kill Clay and keep Jackson in Charming. I guess they kind of hinted at it when they showed the kidnappers faces but please, major stretch that just came out of no where. They could have handled that better.

I enjoyed the ending montage until Tara and Gemma showed up. Seriously wanted a kick ass scene with JUST the boys.