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Re: Spartacus Blood and Sand

My only small complaint is that they never built up the disdain that Crixus had for Ashur. Ashur did nothing to Crixus to warrant such hatred. In fact it was the other way around.

I think the point was, Crixus didn't give two ____s about Ashur he just wanted to kill Gannicus and Asher was going to be in his way. I don't think there was really any built up needed.

Exactly...whenever Crixus said something to Ashur in B&S it was basically "don't get in my way again." Crixus wanted to beat Gannicus face to face and he wasn't going to let Ashur take a cheapshot on Gannicus and deny him the glory of actually defeating Gannicus and "earning" his status as Champion of the House of Batiatus.

Much of the disdain for Ashur comes from how he got his "mark" of the brotherhood and not earning it traditionally like all the others.
 
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Much of the disdain for Ashur comes from how he got his "mark" of the brotherhood and not earning it traditionally like all the others.

This is exactly what I thought as well. Crixus seems to REALLY take being a Gladiator/the Brotherhood seriously. So he has no respect for Ashur and how he earned his "membership" within it.
 
Re: Spartacus Blood and Sand

What to Expect from Spartacus Season 2

IGN talks to Blood and Sand creator Steven S. DeKnight, and series stars Lucy Lawless and Peter Mensah, about leaving the Ludus behind.

February 23, 2011

by Matt Fowler

With Spartacus: Gods of the Arena just one episode from being over -- just one episode before we say goodbye to Batiatus forever – we devoted Blood and Sand fans will have to set our sights on Season 2 of this bloody great series. With Liam McIntyre taking over the titular role of Spartacus from the unfortunately ill Andy Whitfield, Season 2 looks to take us out of the Ludus, fleeing into the wilderness with our band of outlaw gladiators. IGN had a chance to speak with series creator/writer Steven S. DeKnight, as well as stars Lucy Lawless and Peter Mensah, about igniting the rebellion and heading forward into a war with Rome.

First off, everyone. A round of applause, please, for Mr. John Hannah as Batiatus. "It was wonderful to be able to bring John back for Gods of the Arena," DeKnight told IGN. "I had wanted to bring John back in Season 2, in a flashback episode, and I had talked to John about it. And he really loved being on the show and really wanted to come back. And then, unfortunately, with what happened to Andy [Whitfield], we approached John about doing a six-episode prequel series. And without John we wouldn't have done in. Because he was the linchpin. But thankfully he agreed to do it, and it was so fantastic to be able to revisit that character and really see the germination of who he becomes in Season 1."

And while bidding farewell to Batiatus might be a bitter pill, we'll still get to see Lucy Lawless return as Lucretia in Season 2, as it was announced last month that her character, indeed, survived the Ludus bloodbath. "It's something we've talked about, going forward with each season, is trying to find that connective tissue of a villain – because obviously the hero will cross over through all the seasons – but trying to find a villain that can do it," DeKnight said. "And I use the term 'villain' loosely because not all are villains, they're just on the other side. But to find someone on the opposing side and carry them through to the next season. I was adamant that both [Batiatus and Lucretia] were going to die. And that Luctretia was going to die, but then I had this idea and I knew exactly what I wanted to do with her. And it would be a great element to add to Season 2." So does that mean that Lucretia will now be a changed woman? Will she have learned a valuable lesson? "Oh no," DeKnight laughed. "She learns no lesson. Lucretia survives her wound but, as you can imagine, she's less than happy."

When we asked Lawless about the return of Lucretia, she hadn't yet read any new Season 2 scripts, but she did know a few elements. "I know a couple of very broad strokes," she told us, "and I have incredible faith in these writers. I would be shocked if it wasn't as brilliant as everything else."

What did Lawless think Lucretia's state of mind would be? "I wouldn't say that she hasn't learned any lessons," the actress said. "That's not correct. I would say she's learned some. But she's had something very precious, the only thing precious to her, taken away from her and they'll be hell to pay. She's going to unleash the demons from hell."

With the Batiatus Ludus getting left in the bloody dust, where will that leave our heroes? Will they be on the run? "Part will be hiding and part will be guerilla tactics," DeKnight stated. "As always, we'll take key moments from history to help us portray the story. You know, they head out to the countryside and cause a lot of havoc. You know, it's interesting because historically they raped and pillaged their way through the land. But it's a little hard to portray your heroes as good guys if they slaughter children and raping women. But we don't pull back from the fact that they will kill a lot of Romans who they perceive to be the problem. But yes, they'll be on the loose, in the countryside, causing trouble and Glaber (Craig Parker), who will be the first person sent after them, will be hot on their heels."

One of the freed, fleeing rebels in Season 2 will be, of course, Peter Mensah's Oenomaus. What was it like for Mensah to leave the Ludus set behind, after filming both Season 1 and Gods of the Arena there? "Well to be honest, I'm more intrigued by what's coming than sort of thinking about what we're leaving behind," Mensah told IGN. "I guess because, for us, it's the challenge of 'how are we going to pull this off?' And, as an actor, and I think most of us would say this, we're always looking for new challenges. So it's okay to have left it because we're ready to go take on the Roman army."

And what of Oenomaus' historical, shall we say, fate? "Well the deal is that there is an actual history in place," Mensah said. "And we're following that story. So we know where he's going to go. It's how we get there that will be interesting. He has a personal journey to go through in all of this. But you're going to see him right after his whole world fell apart, at the end of Season 1. It's actually fallen apart twice now. And we'll see how it has affected him."

And how will we find Spartacus in Season 2? Will he be the leader of men as told in legend? "When we started Spartacus we knew he wouldn't be the golden hero from the start," DeKnight said. "As much as I love the Stanley Kubrick movie, I didn't want him defending slaves right from the start. I wanted a guy who was very much ruled by his own passions and emotions. For his wife, really. There was that great scene back in episode twelve of Season 1 where Mira says 'you can't do this because we'll all be put to death' and he says 'I don't care.' So he's going to go from there, from that place, to putting his own feelings aside and fighting for the greater good. So that's where we want to take him in Season 2."

And what about the gruesome gladiator fights? With the Ludus in ruin and our heroes on the run, will that element of the show be gone for good? "The great thing about the prequel series is that we had the old arena," DeKnight explained. "Which was much more historically accurate. It was small it was wooden and it was down and dirty. So it gave a new feel to the fights. In Season 2, you will still see the arena that we came to know in Season 1, but for part of the season. Spartacus and his people will obviously not be fighting in it but the fights themselves won't have gone away. And then, eventually, we'll completely move away from the gladiator side."
 
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Wasn't it a little sad to see the flash forward at the end of the season finale with Batiatus and Lacretia dead, after seeing what they had to go through in Gods of Arena?
At the end of season one, I was happy, now kinda sad we won't see those two in future seasons.
 
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I was sad in the sense that we won't have John Hannah anymore. He was a huge part of what made the series so good.
 
Re: Spartacus Blood and Sand

I just finished watching the finale and like the other posters on here said...it rocked! :rock

I had to avoid this thread the last two days to avoid any spoilers and I'm glad I did. It seems likely that we will see Gannicus in S2 and possibly Vettius? He was spared for a reason, so I am guessing he will pop up in S2. Maybe Lucretia will team up with him in her quest for vengence? After seeing how Solonius and Battiatus become enemies, I can't say that Solonius was a "bad" guy. If anything Battiatus was the bad guy who kept on using Solonius for his own ends and Solonius saw a chance to break free and took it. Not sad to see Battiatus dead at the end because I don't think of him as a good guy. I am sad that we will not see John Hannah anymore though. And I will be really glad to see Viva Bianca back as Ilithyia in S2. :naughty

I confident that Liam McIntyre will fill in just fine as the new Spartacus. Now we only have 10 months to wait.:impatient:
 
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Wasn't it a little sad to see the flash forward at the end of the season finale with Batiatus and Lacretia dead, after seeing what they had to go through in Gods of Arena?
At the end of season one, I was happy, now kinda sad we won't see those two in future seasons.

We will still see Lucretia (and maybe Batiatus from some flashback episode/s in S2)
 
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Solonius is a pretty good character and I am confident in saying I really enjoyed this season. Even without Spartacus (did anyone see Kirk Douglas at the Oscars?), I thought the triangle between Gannicus, Oenomaus and Melitta was a good B story. I really liked the character of Gannicus, it's ashame he will not be in the next season. This series had some really good villains including John Hannah and Lucy Lawless.
 
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Solonius is a pretty good character and I am confident in saying I really enjoyed this season. Even without Spartacus (did anyone see Kirk Douglas at the Oscars?), I thought the triangle between Gannicus, Oenomaus and Melitta was a good B story. I really liked the character of Gannicus, it's ashame he will not be in the next season. This series had some really good villains including John Hannah and Lucy Lawless.

I don't want to ruin anything for you but history tells us otherwise. :)
 
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The arena is going to be missed greatly. It may be that the first episode of Blood and Sand was not up to par, but I wasn't that impressed with the depiciton of war. Once it moved into the arena the show hit its stride.

So the next season will need to step up in terms of showing some cool battle scenes, raids, etc.
 
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The trailer for the next season of Spartacus: Vengeance has been released and can be seen here. It looks really good. Liam's voice take a little bit to get used to, but I think he is going to do a great job as Spartacus from what has been shown so far. I think Lucy Lawless is going to have a blast playing Lucretia this season as it looks like she has lost her mind. January 2012 :rock

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The trailer for the next season of Spartacus: Vengeance has been released and can be seen here. It looks really good. Liam's voice take a little bit to get used to, but I think he is going to do a great job as Spartacus from what has been shown so far. I think Lucy Lawless is going to have a blast playing Lucretia this season as it looks like she has lost her mind. January 2012 :rock

Yeah, I agree. Andy's voice would have had much more impact. I wish the new guy luck though. The new season looks great so far.
 
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Just finished the first series. I'm honestly blown away with how good it is. The first episode was a bit weak until the very end, but the rest of the series was highly addictive. The final episode itself is quite possibly one of the best things I've ever seen. There's something about nearly every character I like, even the ones I should be hating on like Batiatus.

I'll be watching God of the Arena next, of which I'm highly looking forward too. I also hope that Liam is good as the new Spartacus for next year (from what i've seen in the trailer, he might take some getting used to, but he's not bad), as I don't see the producers rehiring Whitfield even if he gets better. Far too much hassle on their end.
 
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Yep, a shame about Whitfield. He finally gets a big break when Spartacus became a hit, then homeboy gets cancer.
 
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