Spider-Man Far From Home (2019)

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Sony releases a single blurry cartoon with missing frames and super ridiculous Spiderman clones

Lets be real here for a second. Tom Holland flying around in space, in a CGI Iron Spidey suit fighting a big purple guy with a magical glove and then turning into pixelated dust is just as cartoony and ridiculous as anything in the Spider-Verse.

Don’t be a hypocrite.
 
Lets be real here for a second. Tom Holland flying around in space, in a CGI Iron Spidey suit fighting a big purple guy with a magical glove and then turning into pixelated dust is just as cartoony and ridiculous as anything in the Spider-Verse.

Don?t be a hypocrite.

I was more referring to the work load vs aesthetics ok lol

But since you went there Holland actually did way more wire stunt work than Maguire. :nana


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But since you went there Holland actually did way more wire stunt work than Maguire. :nana

And Maguire was actually in a real red and blue suit way more than a motion capture one.

That might be one of the reasons the original Raimi film’s action sequences don’t do it for you anymore. Your brain has been bombarded by all these quick, flashy computer images and fast cutting that you have developed ADD.
 
:lol :lol :lol

Riddle me this.....

What super villain would you create if you took the 4th letter of the alphabet and combined it with the Beatles singing the Old McDonald song?


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And Maguire was actually in a real red and blue suit way more than a motion capture one.

That might be one of the reasons the original Raimi film?s action sequences don?t do it for you anymore. Your brain has been bombarded by all these quick, flashy computer images and fast cutting that you have developed ADD.

That is true while Holland was Iron Spidey he was motion capture most of the time only when in his traditional look did he actually wear the costume.

I agree that the fast acting nanotech costume covering the head and body is not as realistic looking as the actor actually wearing their respective costumes.
 
Man the music is so great in EG. Of course during all the big moments like the portals opening and Widow about to fall but little scenes too like Nebula propping up Tony in his chair at the beginning and HE approaching his farm in the past. Really top shelf work by Silvestri.

Also there's a really great single take shot of all the heroes brainstorming about how to get the stones with the camera panning around the room which in and off itself isn't anything particularly mind blowing but I just like how it accurately pans up to Banner as he walks by the camera considering he either wouldn't have been there at all or it would have been Ruffalo with a sight line marker propped above his head.

Peter Jackson was really good at doing little things like that too that really sold that characters of various sizes were all in the same space.
 
This guy doesn't have a British accent, but he sure makes sense. Also, the part about Tobey's face made me :lol

https://www.inverse.com/article/586...fj19Ba-4bBau_xh9XPryXsb0xueVd_5z46Nftv0Ehe-kU

Somewhere right now, someone you know is mourning how ?Spider-Man isn?t in the MCU.? The thing is, the Marvel Cinematic Universe never really had Spider-Man at all.

This week, talks between Sony and Disney-owned Marvel Studios broke down over what to do with Spider-Man. Spider-Man, the hapless superhero who is always broke but has grossed several billions at the worldwide box office over not one, not two, not five, but eight theatrical films.

Predictably, Marvel fandom has suffered a meltdown because the appeal of the Marvel Universe is to be rewarded with investment. Watch 20 big movies, and you?ll feel things when all the plots, characters, and story threads collide in two bigger movies. Comic readers spent decades following along stories issue by issue, spin-off by spin-off, and since 2008 Marvel has taught moviegoers how to consume like comic book readers.

Furthermore, there is an understanding, not unwarranted and earned through 20-plus movies of consistent quality, that Marvel Studios has the magic to make the definitive take on its superheroes (Deadpool and Wolverine aside). It?s for that reason fans light up imagining the X-Men and Fantastic Four by Marvel even though there have been many movies made of those characters.

With Spider-Man leaving the MCU, fans feel the pang of loss. Not only does it feel like his narrative, dating back to 2016?s Captain America: Civil War seem abandoned, but there is a lack of faith from fans that Sony can make the ?definitive? Spider-Man movie. That there is a segment of fandom who don?t consider Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, produced by Sony alone, to be equally definitive is a complex web of canned worms.
It?s weird, though, because the MCU didn?t really get Spidey either.

The fundamental heartbeat of Spider-Man is his guiding principal turned genre clich?. With great power, comes great responsibility. Peter learned this when, after obtaining superpowers, looked for ways to cash in. His most famous effort was to become a professional wrestler. (Dear reader, it was the ?60s.) This pursuit cost Peter when he let a thief rob his wrestling promoter, not knowing that same robber would shoot and kill Peter?s beloved Uncle Ben.

That is Spider-Man: A hero whose greatest gift was also his curse. And he?s been financially broke ever since (save for the stretch of time he ran a tech empire, but even that went belly-up and left him penniless).
While Stan Lee imagined him as a teen, it was through decades of work by other creatives ? co-creator Steve Ditko, Gerry Conway, David Micheline, J. M. DeMatteis, Todd McFarlane, Brian Michael Bendis, Dan Slott, J. Michael Straczynski, dozens more ? who all contributed to Spidey?s mythos and allowed him to age out of being 15, to change and grow. And, as the comics regularly show, he grew into a mess.

It was this Spider-Man that found its way into three movies by Sam Raimi, whose trilogy had the genius move in casting Tobey Maguire. Though undeniably Hollywood, Maguire still possessed gawkish qualities that made his boyishness repulsive and awkward. That, too, is key to Peter Parker. There?s a reason why he?s pushed around so much by J. Jonah Jameson, by Flash Thompson, by all the supervillains who thwart him. Frequently throughout his trilogy, Raimi brings his camera up close onto Maguire?s face in moments of distress. It?s because Maguire knew how to look gross with a contorting face. Tom Holland is too magazine-pretty for that. The two are fine actors, but while playing a put-upon character whose spine was made of jelly, Tom Holland looks made of fine marble.


A tale of two spiders: Above, Tobey Maguire in 'Spider-Man' (2002) feels the loss of his Uncle Ben. Below, Tom Holland in 'Avengers: Endgame' witnessing the loss of his substitute father figure Tony Stark. Only one actually looks like Peter Parker; the other looks like Hollywood acting.
When it came to Tom Holland, it was a calculated move to avoid fatigue when Kevin Feige and the MCU avoided exploring this Spider-Man a third time. This time, Peter was de-aged (because studios want franchises to last a decade now) and became entrenched with Tony Stark.

Pairing Peter with Tony makes sense in the framework of the MCU. But gone are all other facets that defined Spider-Man: Uncle Ben has only been alluded to and his death seems to matter less than Tony?s; money is hardly an issue for Peter when he?s 16 and has access to Stark Tech, a private jet, and 3D printing armored super suits at his disposal. In the comics, Peter had to sew and patch his costumes after every battle.


It was meant to be meaningful when, in Far From Home, Peter crafted a new costume (using a cutting-edge, top of the line 3D printer, mind) to the thumping hard rock of AC/DC?s ?Back in Black,? a nod to the opening of 2008?s Iron Man that introduced RDJ?s Tony Stark.
We were meant to feel things, and I did: I felt terrified. The Tony who came roaring down to AC/DC was a war profiteer with all the money and brains at his disposal, and it was disturbing to imply Peter Parker will become like Tony. Yes, there was all of Homecoming that saw an enlightened Stark mentor Peter to avoid his own messes, but AC/DC plays at a bigger volume.

With Spider-Man wrestled from Marvel Studios? clutches, maybe we can finally see Tom Holland?s Peter Parker emerge from Tony Stark?s shadow. But, to be honest, the damage is already done. This gentrified version of Spider-Man is ruined. It?s time to start over.
 
This guy doesn't have a British accent, but he sure makes sense. Also, the part about Tobey's face made me :lol

https://www.inverse.com/article/586...fj19Ba-4bBau_xh9XPryXsb0xueVd_5z46Nftv0Ehe-kU

That article to me is at least the equivalent of MCU fanboys crying about the loss of Spidey. The MCU version certainly has many changes about the character, but it?s still a serviceable and enjoyable version. And I don?t think Tom Holland is all that attractive, at least not like people made Garfield out to be. Yes, I?d probably be on the side of ?MCU fanboy? but I can set my biases aside and see both sides. Having said that, both sides are equally hypocritical. Sony doesn?t know how to handle Spidey, it?s directors do though. Marvel knows how to make a good cinematic universe, and it might not benefit all the characters, but the overall result is so satisfying. It?s a sad time to be an MCU fanboy (although I still and will always believe there will be something worked out between Disney and Sony) but I look forward with curiosity of what will become of the cinematic Spidey.
 
do yall still plan on watching Sony's Spiderman movies?

Maybe. It must be eating Disney inside that Sony not only has the film rights but they are part owners of the Spiderman character forever. He's the face of Marvel, the mascot and they can't black list the character like they did with the X Men. I wonder if Disney will stop marketing the character?
 
Maybe. It must be eating Disney inside that Sony not only has the film rights but they are part owners of the Spiderman character forever. He's the face of Marvel, the mascot and they can't black list the character like they did with the X Men. I wonder if Disney will stop marketing the character?

They ****ing better not. They own the merch rights and spidey sells more than any other hero so they better ****ing not
 
They ****ing better not. They own the merch rights and spidey sells more than any other hero so they better ****ing not

Sony probably gets a percentage of the merchandise rights since they own part of the character. Wasn't that one of the issues that led to the Sony/MCU breakup? Disney wanted 100% of the merchandise, and Sony said no. I could be wrong. Anyways, I had no idea that "Sony has owned the film rights to Spider-Man and 900 related Marvel Comics characters since 1998 and can keep them as long as it releases a "Spider-Man" movie every five years. " That's a lot of characters.
 
Sony probably gets a percentage of the merchandise rights since they own part of the character. Wasn't that one of the issues that led to the Sony/MCU breakup? Disney wanted 100% of the merchandise, and Sony said no. I could be wrong. Anyways, I had no idea that "Sony has owned the film rights to Spider-Man and 900 related Marvel Comics characters since 1998 and can keep them as long as it releases a "Spider-Man" movie every five years. " That's a lot of characters.

Nope. Disney owns 100 percent of the merch tights. Sony idiotically gave those away. That?s why the asm franchise had Disney store exclusives and Disney store cameo was shown.
 
Disney is being ****ing greedy.

If any of us were in Sony’s position, you’d do the same thing. It’s being reported that Sony offered 25% to Disney before telling them to stick it. 25% is huge. Disney gonna Disney. **** em’.

And yeah, Disney has the merchandise cut, 100%.
 
do yall still plan on watching Sony's Spiderman movies?

Not a chance. I still haven't seen ASM2 nor planned on ever seeing Venom. Sony showed it's true colors when they released Venom to begin with. Spidey less Universe my ***. This was their plan all along. Have Feige and Disney bolster up Spidey through the MCU, then make their own **** once Spidey was relevant again.

Won't be watching anything Sony puts out involving any Spider-Man property.
 
Not a chance. I still haven't seen ASM2 nor planned on ever seeing Venom. Sony showed it's true colors when they released Venom to begin with. Spidey less Universe my ***. This was their plan all along. Have Feige and Disney bolster up Spidey through the MCU, then make their own **** once Spidey was relevant again.

Won't be watching anything Sony puts out involving any Spider-Man property.

:lol:lol
 
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