SSC Superman 1/6th Scale figure

[GasparZizou]

Even the paint looks great - the only thing I think people are perceiving as bad about the heads is how it is proportioned to the body.

The head is all around bad, the paint is good though, but the proportions of the facial features are a mess, like the eyes being too big and too wide spread makes it look moonfaced, and yeah the head it self is too damn big.

 

[Groovy34]

I don't have a problem with the head so much just wish it was scaled back in size alittle

 

[Darklord Dave]

The head is all around bad, the paint is good though, but the proportions of the facial features are a mess, like the eyes being too big and too wide spread makes it look moonfaced, and yeah the head it self is too damn big.

I think you're alone there. This is the same portrait that received so much praise when revealed.

 

[Cocoboloboy]

I like everything about the sculpt except those eyes. A quick repaint and that's fixed though.

 

[AlanJG1]

I like the sculpt. IMO it just needs a bigger body to look right.

Even though I purchased a TTM 20 body when the figure was shown at the last SDCC, I broke down and purchased an extra Batman body from Toy Anxiety this evening. I am sure I will end up displaying one of the sculpts on the TTM 20 but I have a feeling the Batman body will look best.

Considering I will now need to paint the neck, any painting tutorials someone could point me towards would be appreciated.

 

[chewblacca]

I didn't know toy anxiety had anymore batman bodies. I tried to order one a week ago and could not find any.

 

[piccolodaimaoh]

Even the paint looks great - the only thing I think people are perceiving as bad about the heads is how it is proportioned to the body.

But that is a common excuse here, right? "Sculpt is great, but..." To me, this Superman sculpt looks like an old man. The prototype looked younger and more vibrant, to me. If they are exactly the same then I guess we can say it is just poor execution.

It's not that there's anything bad about a specific comic-based figure. All I was repeating was that not everyone likes the same comic artist's interpretation. For SSC, as a business, there is a bigger risk of alienating buyers by going with a specific artist.

But obviously I can't debate here. If people here really think that those Hasbro Supes, or the Hasbro Vader for that matter, look better than what SSC has produced, then I guess I'm in a minority.

The Hasbro Supes was just used as an example of how you do a comic accurate Superman figure, no matter what level of figure you are doing.

Just looking at the Hasbro physique as compared to the SSC Supes I start to think of the diddy Dr. Frank N Furter sang, "A weakling weighing 98 pounds will get sand in his face when kicked to the ground."

As for Vader there are whole threads about replacing the SSC dome with the more accurate Hasbro dome. I can see by your join date that you are coming up on your one year anniversary here. As such I do not know how often you visit the Star Wars threads but yes, Virginia, the Hasbro dome from 1998 is better. Welcome to the Freaks board.

 

[Groovy34]

I like the sculpt. IMO it just needs a bigger body to look right.

Even though I purchased a TTM 20 body when the figure was shown at the last SDCC, I broke down and purchased an extra Batman body from Toy Anxiety this evening. I am sure I will end up displaying one of the sculpts on the TTM 20 but I have a feeling the Batman body will look best.

Considering I will now need to paint the neck, any painting tutorials someone could point me towards would be appreciated.

the neck is silicone if im not mistaken

Acylic wont last long and oil takes forever to dry but might work. but the true way is using a product called Psycho paint and mixing it with silc pig it's pigment for silicone.

 

[Sardo Numspa]

But that is a common excuse here, right? "Sculpt is great, but..." To me, this Superman sculpt looks like an old man. The prototype looked younger and more vibrant, to me. If they are exactly the same then I guess we can say it is just poor execution.




The Hasbro Supes was just used as an example of how you do a comic accurate Superman figure, no matter what level of figure you are doing.

Just looking at the Hasbro physique as compared to the SSC Supes I start to think of the diddy Dr. Frank N Furter sang, "A weakling weighing 98 pounds will get sand in his face when kicked to the ground."

As for Vader there are whole threads about replacing the SSC dome with the more accurate Hasbro dome. I can see by your join date that you are coming up on your one year anniversary here. As such I do not know how often you visit the Star Wars threads but yes, Virginia, the Hasbro dome from 1998 is better. Welcome to the Freaks board.

First off, you're the second person on the forum that apparently doesn't realize that a person can read different forums and threads without actually having to join. The only reason someone needs to actually join, is if they want to post comments. In other words, I've been visiting/reading the forums long before I joined, and I've been collecting for much longer than that. Joining an internet chat board doesn't have anything to do with a collector's collector credential.
Secondly, again, there is obviously a difference of opinion. Personally, I don't think those Hasbro figures look any more comic accurate. If I cared, I could tear apart those figures for inconsistencies with the comics they are based on. To me, that's one of the benefits of having something generic; they don't have to be exact to some specification.
Thirdly, I've seen/read the discussions about the Hasbro dome for Vader. But what we're talking about is a whole product. Great, so the Hasbro dome, only, is more accurate than the SSC dome. It's also more accurate than the upcoming Hot Toys dome. Does that mean any collector would rather have the Hasbro Vader on their shelf, than the Hot Toys one? Hasbro has a better dome, someone else has a better mask, someone else has a better chest box, blah blah blah...
If there's someone who can frankenstein a Vader from the best parts of several different manufacturer products, I have yet to see a picture of it.

When it's released, I'm hoping someone posts pics of the Hasbro Supes side by side with this SSC one. Based on the Hasbro pics, a comparison will look like a real person (SSC) vs a character from the Simpsons...

 

[AlanJG1]

I didn't know toy anxiety had anymore batman bodies. I tried to order one a week ago and could not find any.

I have been checking the TA site daily and lucked out yesterday when they put 2 up for sale. I was able to snag one of them.

the neck is silicone if im not mistaken

Acylic wont last long and oil takes forever to dry but might work. but the true way is using a product called Psycho paint and mixing it with silc pig it's pigment for silicone.

Thanks for the info. I'll have to check that out.

 

[MxBxM]

Come on guys, let's be objective here. We usually judge stuff more on how much it costs.

What I mean by this is that, yeah the Hasbro or Neca toys, been on the cheaper side, are "allowed" to have more problems or defects than a Hot Toys or Sideshow figure.

For what the expensive 1/6 figures cost, there really shouldn't be any issues such as quality control or likeness to source material.

Having said that, the main and biggest problem everyone has with this Superman figure is the proportion of the head and body. Even though some are saying that it is Sideshow "interpretation" of the character and are accepting it as it is, I doubt anyone would like a Superman that has those proportions in a comic book. Some of you guys defend Sideshow too much, some don't mind the problems as you have skills to fix this.

But most of us who are not getting it or are cancelling is mostly because it is unacceptable that a figure costing as much as some of the best figure makers out there looks more like the cheaper ones.

So in short, this Superman has high end quality parts, but low end proportions and design, therefore it should be priced in between, then, it would be a wonderful figure. As it is now, it sucks.

 

[amusedjester]

For a price that equals to a Hot Toys figure. I would prefer the same quality. However, the 3 distinct head sculpts does add value to this figure. As for quality, my nitpicks for this figure was the design of the loose cape attachment to the collar. That was very poorly designed. The belt, it looks just sloppy. And futzing it doesn't seem to fix it for very long. Of course, the dreaded scale difference between the head and body. For 200 bucks, I understand I can't have a perfect figure but I don't think I need to do some customizing to get it there. The figure should be 95% great.

But in all honesty, I was priced out of this line when they announced the 200 a figure price. I couldn't understand why Sideshow felt they can match prices with Hot toys. The quality isn't up to par and they are not just distributors, they are the producers of this line and should not have the additional price markup.

 

[Groovy34]

I look forward to getting superman his body I'll use to make my Aquaman. So I'll get 2 figs from this so all positives.

But I do get what everyone is saying. I'm tired of having to put $100 usually having to replace bodies because there marionettes when I get them. into just about every sideshow figure. Not to mention making clothes to replace what comes with.i tell you the bodies need serious quality control inspectors. The ones doing it don't want there job.

We do it so often that it's common knowledge no company will ever fully be up to par. They sacrifice quality to make it affordable. If they did every bells and whistles these figs would be $500 a pop

 

[MxBxM]

I look forward to getting superman his body I'll use to make my Aquaman. So I'll get 2 figs from this so all positives.

But I do get what everyone is saying. I'm tired of having to put $100 usually having to replace bodies because there marionettes when I get them. into just about every sideshow figure. Not to mention making clothes to replace what comes with.i tell you the bodies need serious quality control inspectors. The ones doing it don't want there job.

We do it so often that it's common knowledge no company will ever fully be up to par. They sacrifice quality to make it affordable. If they did every bells and whistles these figs would be $500 a pop

Look, the main problem with Sideshow is that they think they are Hot Toys level.

When Sideshow was putting out those Indiana Jones figures, GI Joes, etc., even though the sculpts were mediocre, they were more acceptable because they were relatively cheap.

Now, they charge Hot Toys prices and their figures aren't even close to that quality so they don't get a "free pass" now. They will be judged accordingly.

I can't stress enough how much I want a proper comic Superman and was really looking forward for this figure.

 

[Sardo Numspa]

Although I'm keeping my pre-order, I definitely agree on the head/body size issue. But for me, that's really my only problem with the figure. I like the look/sculpt, and materials used for the suit will have to be judged in-hand. The cape doesn't concern me too much, because as many know, even the Hot Toys capes either need lots of futzing or downright replacing. Actually, I think it's fair to say the newer sideshow capes are actually better than the Hot Toys ones. The only issue I have with the belt/trunks, is that when the belt is not in the correct position, it definitely makes the figure more toy-like, and cheapens it in my opinion.

 

[Groovy34]

can you do a photo reference so we know this trunk to belt ratio im confused by this

 

[Sardo Numspa]

can you do a photo reference so we know this trunk to belt ratio im confused by this

I just mean how the belt sits. When you look at the promo pics, the belt is at the top of his trunks, with no red showing. So far in all the early-release reviews and pics, the belt sits lower, so the trunks come up and over the top of the belt. Personally, I prefer when the belt sits at the very top. Probably just a futzing issue...

 

[GasparZizou]

Come on guys, let's be objective here. We usually judge stuff more on how much it costs.

What I mean by this is that, yeah the Hasbro or Neca toys, been on the cheaper side, are "allowed" to have more problems or defects than a Hot Toys or Sideshow figure.

For what the expensive 1/6 figures cost, there really shouldn't be any issues such as quality control or likeness to source material.

Having said that, the main and biggest problem everyone has with this Superman figure is the proportion of the head and body. Even though some are saying that it is Sideshow "interpretation" of the character and are accepting it as it is, I doubt anyone would like a Superman that has those proportions in a comic book. Some of you guys defend Sideshow too much, some don't mind the problems as you have skills to fix this.

But most of us who are not getting it or are cancelling is mostly because it is unacceptable that a figure costing as much as some of the best figure makers out there looks more like the cheaper ones.

So in short, this Superman has high end quality parts, but low end proportions and design, therefore it should be priced in between, then, it would be a wonderful figure. As it is now, it sucks.

100% correct on everything.

 

[Groovy34]

Come on guys, let's be objective here. We usually judge stuff more on how much it costs.

What I mean by this is that, yeah the Hasbro or Neca toys, been on the cheaper side, are "allowed" to have more problems or defects than a Hot Toys or Sideshow figure.

For what the expensive 1/6 figures cost, there really shouldn't be any issues such as quality control or likeness to source material.

Having said that, the main and biggest problem everyone has with this Superman figure is the proportion of the head and body. Even though some are saying that it is Sideshow "interpretation" of the character and are accepting it as it is, I doubt anyone would like a Superman that has those proportions in a comic book. Some of you guys defend Sideshow too much, some don't mind the problems as you have skills to fix this.

But most of us who are not getting it or are cancelling is mostly because it is unacceptable that a figure costing as much as some of the best figure makers out there looks more like the cheaper ones.

So in short, this Superman has high end quality parts, but low end proportions and design, therefore it should be priced in between, then, it would be a wonderful figure. As it is now, it sucks.

I agree with you it's just Sideshow isn't going to change, you tell them any flaws and they put up blinders and earplugs because they don't care to hear about complaints, they expect you to buy it and if you don't oh well. That is Hot Toys and Sideshow's attitude with all of this, they become a corporate etity where customers are meaningless because there is someone who will buy it.

I get half azzed figures from sideshow because i know i can fix them, but sadly those who can't are stuck with them. I wish i had body mod capabilities so i can make better bodies because noone listens to suggestions.

What we need to realize Hot toys and Sideshow consider themselves above us because there running a company, were just customers to them and there is millions of customers So listening to a handful of honest feedback isn't going to change anything because to them it's perfect the way it is. Which is why im not buying Flash when it's released because the outfit is horrendous.

Prime example if Sideshow cared about quality control the bodies coming to customers would have been fixed by now. it's been how many Years? How many Prometheus bodies are like limp rag dolls and the female bodies are there most recent disaster that has black bits that still flake off body.

 

[cr0w]

I think you're alone there. This is the same portrait that received so much praise when revealed.

Wow, it's almost like you have a vested interest in the company or something.

Oh, wait...