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I must be missing something...

They've got no spare power anywhere to do anything beyond life support (even losing shields)...
That buys them 2 hours...

But let's go to the holodeck and hang out - with a weird explanation????
And let's do an investigation when they've already stated "this is the end."

WTF? Weird logic and motivations going on in this one :unsure:
 
I must be missing something...

They've got no spare power anywhere to do anything beyond life support (even losing shields)...
That buys them 2 hours...

But let's go to the holodeck and hang out - with a weird explanation????
And let's do an investigation when they've already stated "this is the end."

WTF? Weird logic and motivations going on in this one :unsure:
They explained the holodeck having back-up power external to the ship's grid so that in the case where there is no hope, the crew has a last refuge of peacefully die at.

It's a bit morbid, and I'm not completely sure I like the idea, but it is something that exists today to an extent (see those assisted suicide pods with VR capabilities).

Regarding the rest of the episode, this has to be my favorite of the season so far. I'd say this is probably my favorite for all the new trek so far too.
 
I must be missing something...

They've got no spare power anywhere to do anything beyond life support (even losing shields)...
That buys them 2 hours...

But let's go to the holodeck and hang out - with a weird explanation????
And let's do an investigation when they've already stated "this is the end."

WTF? Weird logic and motivations going on in this one :unsure:
They had a similar thing in Voyager where some of the crew was in the Holodeck during some “emergency”.

It’s not odd for something to have a separate power supply from the main power supply.

As for the investigation. What do you expect them to do? Just mope around and give up?
 
They had a similar thing in Voyager where some of the crew was in the Holodeck during some “emergency”.

It’s not odd for something to have a separate power supply from the main power supply.

As for the investigation. What do you expect them to do? Just mope around and give up?
Speaking of Voyager, it reminds me of Equinox too. When the Equinox' warp core was about to breach, he used a device to take him off to some coastline so he can die in a peaceful place.
 
Episode 4…Well IMO you just don’t get more Trek than this episode. It’s like they took what’s best of all the old Treks wrapped it up into this show, and sprinkled some serial storytelling in to continue the overall plot of the season.

Has it all emotion, science, technobabble, and action. Classic Trek updated for the new century.
I agree, certainly the most reminiscent episode we’ve seen that brings back that Trek feel. I thoroughly enjoyed it though I could’ve done without the F-Bomb, just feels unnecessary after it being non-existent from TOS to ENT.

Great acting in some very fulfilling scenes. The exchange between Riker and Picard in the “This is the end, my friend” scene was perfect. This is Frakes at his best and showed realistic vulnerabilities of the character post-loss that never truly gets resolved in life.

I think most of us predicted the Shaw-Wolf 359 connection, even though it was already done before, it was another well acted and believable scene that reflects what happens in the real world (lasting hostility post conflict). I loved the dig Shaw made about the Jurati-Borg and how absurd it was.

The final few moments in the episode has the entire cast shining on the bridge, Picard is the Picard we know, using his experience to navigate them out of the asteroid field, leaving the audience with a “feel good” moment, Riker flinging the asteroid as they escape topped off the action sequence nicely. The birth of the alien life forms and that musical score, just a great TNG-like awing moment.

The final flashback to the bar and the reveal that Jack was there, again another well written and fulfilling scene.

The episode really comes full circle at the end. I’ve never seen a series go from mediocre, to unwatchable to quality like this. I think this episode also benefited from not cutting back and forth with the Raffi story, I’m glad we got a dedicated hour to this storyline. I hope the momentum from this episode continues as they’ve set the bar now.

It’s unfortunate Terry Matalas has stated several times since the premiere that there are no plans for him to show run Trek beyond this.
 
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I barely like the first two seasons. Loved Luke returning. But yeah, Andor has given me back the feeling I had in that late 90s sweet spot when I was reading and playing Shadows of the Empire, the Special Edition trilogy was out, the air was filled with promise with Episode 1 around the corner…and Mando is the opposite of that.

It’s purely down to Filoni and Favreau. I love Favs but Filoni is bringing hyperspace whales in now…I am out until they improve.

I'm exactly the same. Andor captures that era of Star Wars, the OT and the EU stuff (Shadows of the Empire is a great example). That's all we had at the time, and it meant Star Wars had this amazing tone. Andor fits so well into that era of Star Wars.
It all changed from the PT onwards...

I loved that era aswell, that was peak Star Wars magic to me - although strangely Andor did nothing for me.


I agree, certainly the most reminiscent episode we’ve seen that brings back that Trek feel. I thoroughly enjoyed it though I could’ve done without the F-Bomb, just feels unnecessary after it being non-existent from TOS to ENT.

Other than how unrealistically dark the ships are, that's my only real complaint. F-bombs are specifically not Star Trek. Yes I'm underlining that. It's perhaps also 'unrealistic' - I mean, how do you phase out curse words in language unless you run some sort of authoritarian society with constant monitoring, informants and severe punishment for violations of the verbal morality statute - which I don't think happened in the universe of Trek - but it's simply the case that cursing is not done in Star Trek's portrayal of the future. Star Trek IV made a point of emphasizing this when they showed how taken aback the Enterprise crew were when they travelled back to 1984. I suppose it could be argued that somewhere along the line people took it up again for the heck of it but it just doesn't feel right for Star Trek, at least not the F word

and certainly not Jean Luc Picard saying it of all people.
 
It’s unfortunate Terry Matalas has stated several times since the premiere that there are no plans for him to show run Trek beyond this.

That's very sad news. This particular season of Picard is the only nuTrek I've been able to watch and enjoy. Haven't liked anything Star Trek since Enterprise was cancelled.
I suppose once this season is done, it's back to the usual dreadful nuTrek and I'll go back to no new Star Trek in my life.
 
Fantastic episode, and Frakes has seriously never been better as Riker. And of course I continue to get a kick out of Shaw and loved his quick and dirty tactical assessment of the changelings (or should I say "goo-people"). 😄

Gotta say though I'm really not liking this new changeling effect that looks more like disgusting globs of melting flesh than the shimmering gold of DS9. Really hope it's just a result of them being cut off from the Great Link or something, and we'll get to see the proper gold effect later on.
 
Fantastic episode, and Frakes has seriously never been better as Riker. And of course I continue to get a kick out of Shaw and loved his quick and dirty tactical assessment of the changelings (or should I say "goo-people"). 😄

Gotta say though I'm really not liking this new changeling effect that looks more like disgusting globs of melting flesh than the shimmering gold of DS9. Really hope it's just a result of them being cut off from the Great Link or something, and we'll get to see the proper gold effect later on.
I agree. The changeling effects could be very ropey at times in DS9 but I'd prefer an improved version of that to the disgusting flesh globs.
 
That's very sad news. This particular season of Picard is the only nuTrek I've been able to watch and enjoy. Haven't liked anything Star Trek since Enterprise was cancelled.
I suppose once this season is done, it's back to the usual dreadful nuTrek and I'll go back to no new Star Trek in my life.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. They've learned some valuable lessons and made some changes that they hopefully stick with moving forward, regardless of whoever they choose as showrunners for future projects.

I'm sure Matalas has had positive influence but he was also co-showrunner of Picard Season 2 and we know how that went. As good as Season 3 has been, his is not the last word in good Trek. SNW and LD have different creatives and those are both strong in their own ways. Hopefully they've found additional qualified people for whatever comes next.

And Matalas did make one decision that I'm not a huge fan of personally; his insistence on the appearance of the Titan-A. I have problems with the Neo Constitution conceptually even though it's not the worst. But there are some glaring issues like the scaling, weaponry, and tech that bothers the part of me that loves how starships are designed.
 
I wouldn't necessarily say that. They've learned some valuable lessons and made some changes that they hopefully stick with moving forward, regardless of whoever they choose as showrunners for future projects.

I'm sure Matalas has had positive influence but he was also co-showrunner of Picard Season 2 and we know how that went. As good as Season 3 has been, his is not the last word in good Trek. SNW and LD have different creatives and those are both strong in their own ways. Hopefully they've found additional qualified people for whatever comes next.

And Matalas did make one decision that I'm not a huge fan of personally; his insistence on the appearance of the Titan-A. I have problems with the Neo Constitution conceptually even though it's not the worst. But there are some glaring issues like the scaling, weaponry, and tech that bothers the part of me that loves how starships are designed.
Didn't like SNW or LD and I have zero faith that once Matalas moves on and Trek is once again entirely in the hands of the vandals we'll see any improvements.
This 3rd season will likely be a nice little break from nuTrek garbage but I'm fully expecting future projects to be the same standard as the rest of the horrors they've made.
I made my peace with what Trek has become a long time ago. This 3rd season of Picard has been a nice little remembrance of what good Trek looks like but it's just a blip. A little vacation in the Trek universe. A fling with an ex that used to mean a lot to me. I won't be staying.
 
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Didn't like SNW or LD and I have zero faith that once Matalas moves on and Trek is once again entirely in the hands of the vandals we'll see any improvements.
This 3rd season will likely be a nice little break from nuTrek garbage but I'm fully expecting future projects to be the same standard as the rest of the horrors they've made.
I made my peace with what Trek has become a long time ago. This 3rd season of Picard has been a nice little remembrance of what good Trek looks like but it's just a blip. A little vacation in the Trek universe. A fling with an ex that used to mean a lot to me. I won't be staying.

I understand. But Matalas is not the sole reason Picard Season 3 is better. Just saying.

Like you, I have many issues with P+ Star Trek. Although I am okay with SNW and love LD, everything else has just not been good for a variety of reasons that mostly flow top down.

Benefit of ducking out at least is that if something does turn out to be good, you can always come back and watch it. I understand your pessimism, but hopefully there are better shows in the future. We'll just have to see what happens.
 
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I didn't care for season 1, and couldn't get through season 2 after a few episodes, but am really, really enjoying season 3 so far. This show does a much better job of embodying the spirit of the characters and TNG. Hopefully they continue with this level of quality, so these characters can get a really appropriate send-off.
 
Fantastic episode, and Frakes has seriously never been better as Riker. And of course I continue to get a kick out of Shaw and loved his quick and dirty tactical assessment of the changelings (or should I say "goo-people"). 😄

Gotta say though I'm really not liking this new changeling effect that looks more like disgusting globs of melting flesh than the shimmering gold of DS9. Really hope it's just a result of them being cut off from the Great Link or something, and we'll get to see the proper gold effect later on.
I can understand why they wanted to change the effect in a way. The DS9 effects were obviously capitalizing on the at-the-time new T-1000 effect, albeit in gold instead of chrome. I'm sure that same appearance could be done better now but they may have wanted it to look like a more plausible, natural organic being which this new effect is successful at IMO.

But look, I hated the change the Abrams movies and Discovery made to the Klingons with every fibre of my being so I can certainly understand any reservations here.
 
I can understand why they wanted to change the effect in a way. The DS9 effects were obviously capitalizing on the at-the-time new T-1000 effect, albeit in gold instead of chrome. I'm sure that same appearance could be done better now but they may have wanted it to look like a more plausible, natural organic being which this new effect is successful at IMO.

But look, I hated the change the Abrams movies and Discovery made to the Klingons with every fibre of my being so I can certainly understand any reservations here.
Yeah I suppose it does look more organic, but it also would have made every transformation Odo made on DS9 revolting as hell to watch. Lol. And I really preferred that more magical and ethereal quality the previous effect had.
 
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