Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

No. None of that. No different! Only different in your mind.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

 

[Rorywan]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Crusade is cheesy fun. That Irish chick pretending to be a nazi is embarrassing as hell.
And the VFX and overall style of the movie looks cheap compared to raiders and doom.
It's my least favourite of the three. Yes, I said three.

On a different note, it's good to see they are hiring some new male actors to appear in Episode IX.
I thought for a while it might be an all female ethnically diverse cast.

 

[Rorywan]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Eek!!

I feel a TOD rant coming on.

Never ever been a fan of TLC. I thought Ford was OK in it but his flirtations with the German chick are embarrassing (acting wise) and he is nowhere near as good as he is in the Original and TOD IMO
TLC is saved by Connery and the Tank chase. Other then that action scenes are average at best. The Motorbike chase is just a watered down version of the Mine car chase. The plane chase is KOTCS bad and the boat chase, like many boat chases, is a bore fest. Plus I hate that Indy runs around in some of those scene wearing a Tie with his traditional Indy garb..

End of my TLC rant

It's true.. all of it.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I almost walked out of TLC opening night the movie was just a cheap shell of the greatness that had come before.

Only thru the years have I calmed down my hatred and began to be ok with it.

If Raiders is A New Hope then TOD is Empire and TLC is barely ROTJ lol

 

[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I was 7 when it came out so maybe that'd be why I like it but then I have two older brothers who would have been 11 and 15 and they never noticed any drop in quality with TLC. Were they too young aswell?

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I liked TLC when it came out, saw it three times in the theater in fact. I was 15 and happy to see Ford in a Lucasfilm movie again after the half decade wait since TOD. River Phoenix was a quality and likable actor of the time (I watched the hell out of Stand By Me at home) so his part didn't bother me at all.

But revisiting TLC at home I really grew to *hate* how Indy was portrayed. He was constantly emasculated by both his father and Elsa (his awkward nerd puppy dog flirtations were pathetic and so unbecoming of his character) and like JAWS said the only redeeming aspects of the film for me is the Connery/Ford banter (the movie works if you take it as a straight non-Indy father/son comedy) and of course the exciting (albeit highly derivative) tank chase. I suppose it also gets a pass for "completing" the trilogy (yes trilogy, lol) and for featuring a youngish Harrison Ford as Indy and a few other memorable bits here and there ("he chose poorly," etc.)

As a film though I think it's actually worse than ROTJ and the first hour is downright AOTC-ish.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

a-dev family ain’t tolerating any TLC trash talk

Even at that age it immediately felt like the writing wasn’t concerned with reaching or even exceeding the same highs from Raiders given the Nazi angle once again.

It felt like cartoonish characters moving thru a scholastic history show and tell instead of a believable history lesson wrapped in a thrilling nuanced adventure.

The grail was treated very carelessly after how perfectly the mystical power of the ark had been represented.

However like I previously mentioned i’m now able to relax and enjoy many elements from it.

What i’m trying to say is that unlike the PT I can easily sit thru all of TLC lol

It’s just no Raiders but then again very few adventure movies are.

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

The nice thing about TLC is that all the good stuff comes in the final 45 minutes so if you stick it out all the way through then the trilogy always ends on a high note.

 

[xipotec]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Geez, I love TLC....
Conversely, I think TOD is a steaming pile. The effects are terrible , Capshaw os downright annoying, and it has a “Jump the Shark” moment for me that is just as bad as the Fridge scene in KOTCS.


Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

 

[Captain Clown]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Yeah, I'm in team TLC > ToD too.

I haven't seen ToD in years but I remember thinking it was bizzare. It does have the most iconic Indy look though (open shirt with cut/bloodied face and machete).

TLC feels like more of an Indiana Jones movie. I like the Sean & Ford banter, and Sallah has a bigger role.

Raiders will always be leagues ahead of both.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

With TOD I felt the ritual scenes went on for far too long i’m like ok get on with it already.

But I do find TOD to have more iconic scenes than TLC overall.

Ultimately none of the sequels match Raiders it’s really that simple.

 

[dan350zr]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

TOD was horrible... The story was bad, the humor was bad, it was just bad across the board.... TLC was at least fun to watch and had a fairly solid story....

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

TOD is one of the greatest rollercoaster rides of all time. "Horrible?" The obnoxiously over the top shlockiness only adds to its charm. Is it crap compared to Raiders? Well sure but what isn't.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I like them all. Even KOTCS wasn't so bad on my last viewing if I remember right. Too much boring exposition, wasted John Hurt, Marion finding mortal danger hilarious thereby taking any suspense out of the movie etc. Otherwise though I'm not offended by things other people hated like Shia, the fridge scene (unsurviveable stuff happens a lot in these films) or the introduction of Aliens into the Indy world.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

TOD is one of the greatest rollercoaster rides of all time. "Horrible?" The obnoxiously over the top shlockiness only adds to its charm. Is it crap compared to Raiders? Well sure but what isn't.

Just the brains dinner scene alone makes it better than TLC.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I agree Alden was better in Solo than Ford was in ROTJ. Solo is my favorite character in the SW movies, and in ESB in particular, so even back then it was a disappointment for him to end up as simply the comic relief, and a lame one at that.

And I also dislike Last Crusade, which I consider the worst of the 4. Yes, even ranks below Crystal Skull! I was 16 when it came out and back then it was a huge disappointment for me. I LOVED the Indy movies, even more than the SW movies, so anticipating LC was a big deal for me. But the whole movie just felt very watered down. Even the tank chase felt very contrived with little danger. I particularly hate the bag strap caught in the tank barrel thing which feels like an overly forced "trap" for him to get out of. Plus, talk about a useless action sequence: the burning catacombs and boat chase! Oh no, who is this new mysterious threat coming after Indy?!? Oh, never mind! They're actually good guys! Sorry we tried to burn you alive, Indy (but seriously, leave the grail alone)! And the effects and sets looked super cheap even back then. I used to really love TOD also, but it doesn't hold up as well as it used to. Raiders is still singularly, to borrow from M. Poppins, practically perfect in every way and is probably my all time favorite movie.

And back on topic: still love TLJ!

 

[Vault Boy]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Lol ok now I don’t think it was like that but the characters still suck.

I don't how you didn't get the message. Even Lucasfilm Commissars acknowledge it and indeed regard it as one of the film's best qualities. From Pop Culture Detective:

The Last Jedi is a story about men learning to trust women’s ideas and decisions; and then becoming better people and better heroes because of it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mWqVJZMh6-w

This is what is known as propaganda. Remember that this a Star Wars film.

One TLJ apolagist commented:

This film basically confronts some dudes with the notion, if not realization that yes, maybe their mother WAS right to send them to their room as a kid, that she does know better, not unlike Poe's two space moms. And there is nothing they hate having to hear more than that.

These are observations by supporters of the film.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I agree Alden was better in Solo than Ford was in ROTJ. Solo is my favorite character in the SW movies, and in ESB in particular, so even back then it was a disappointment for him to end up as simply the comic relief, and a lame one at that.

And I also dislike Last Crusade, which I consider the worst of the 4. Yes, even ranks below Crystal Skull! I was 16 when it came out and back then it was a huge disappointment for me. I LOVED the Indy movies, even more than the SW movies, so anticipating LC was a big deal for me. But the whole movie just felt very watered down. Even the tank chase felt very contrived with little danger. I particularly hate the bag strap caught in the tank barrel thing which feels like an overly forced "trap" for him to get out of. Plus, talk about a useless action sequence: the burning catacombs and boat chase! Oh no, who is this new mysterious threat coming after Indy?!? Oh, never mind! They're actually good guys! Sorry we tried to burn you alive, Indy (but seriously, leave the grail alone)! And the effects and sets looked super cheap even back then. I used to really love TOD also, but it doesn't hold up as well as it used to. Raiders is still singularly, to borrow from M. Poppins, practically perfect in every way and is probably my all time favorite movie.

And back on topic: still love TLJ!

Hmmm I agree with pretty much everything other than TLC being worst than KOTCS.

 

[Vault Boy]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

You are not very comfortable with your masculinity are you? You call Kylo a kitty? Because Holdo is a woman it's about anti masculinity? Have you kissed a girl? I am reading your personality as someone who really hates women. Probably because they reject you.

Like I said before:

Follow the dating advice of a feminist and see what happens. Instant ******l dehumidification. Translstion just in case: Friend Zone.

I know what the **** I'm talking about:

WOMEN ARE ATTRACTED TO MEN WITH 'BENEVOLENT SEXISM' ATTITUDES, ACCORDING TO STUDY

The study found that women are likely to choose men with benevolent sexism attitudes over men without the same views.

Examples of BS include thinking of women as homemakers, or being gentle and nurturing.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...-relationship-benevolent-sexism-a8429061.html

In addition or more importantly:

Biology of attraction: Women have urges too

The age-old question, 'What do women want' could be rooted in biology, according to two new studies that show women prefer sexy, masculine men during ovulation, but dependable "husband material" the rest of the month.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/14/women-sexual-preference-ovulation/5434071/

That is "Alpha ****s. Beta bucks." Now you know what "girls night out" means. The woman is ovulating and she's looking for a Chad. She wants the best genes for her children. The beta male is the provider.

Next. Hypergamy. Looks, Money, Status (LMS) and the 80/20 rule:

Different cognitive processes underlie human mate choices and mate preferences

[The conclusion is that] women, who were generally much more discriminating than men, chose men whose overall desirability as a mate matched the women’s self-perceived physical attractiveness.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1986604/

Research by more than 50 scientists studying more than 10,000 individuals inhabiting 33 countries, six continents, and five islands supports the hypothesis that women have evolved mate preferences for men who show cues of resource possession or resource acquisition potential.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...ces_f or_men_with_resources_A_reply_to_Smuts

Tinder Experiments II: Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your time on Tinder — a quantitative socio-economic study

It was determined that the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the top 20% of men.

https://medium.com/@worstonlinedate...ably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a

Red Pill knowledge.