Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Stand down ironwez! You can't take on jye and TLJ defense force on your own. Do a sonic and run like hell my little hedgehog before they blitz you.

Apologize to Khev by saying TPM and the PT are not canon and you may get to keep one of your hands. :lecture
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

For all it’s faults it still had memorable moments. Characters and scenes. I don’t see any of these characters or stories being remembered in the next few years.

Stand down ironwez! You can't take on jye and TLJ defense force on your own. Do a sonic and run like hell my little hedgehog before they blitz you.

Apologize to Khev by saying TPM and the PT are not canon and you may get to keep one of your hands. :lecture

See IW is simply not being honest to himself and nothing is worse than lying to yourself.

Here is exactly what they are notoriously famous and memorable for:

TPM: Jar Jar Speak

AOTC: Sand Love

ROTS: NOOOO!

That’s the PT right there fully exposed front and center in all of their naked cartoon glory.

Never once said the ST aren’t problematic but just look at RLM their PT reviews are stuff of legend even in the film industry why, do you really need to ask lol

So maybe for iron they are memorable for his reasons that he only understands and appreciates but they are globally judged for those 3 reasons.
 
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Apologize to Khev by saying TPM and the PT are not canon and you may get to keep one of your hands. :lecture

I've always found TPM to be 50% entertaining and 50% crap but due to it's link to AOTC and ROTS I dismissed it. Now that it links directly to Solo without any need for AOTC/ROTS at all I've allowed it back into the canon, lol.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

For all it’s faults it still had memorable moments. Characters and scenes. I don’t see any of these characters or stories being remembered in the next few years.

Do you seriously believe that none of these ST moments will be remembered in the next few years?

TFA: Han and Chewie stepping back onto the Falcon?

TFA: Kylo freezing the blaster shot with the Force and only letting it go when he walked away?

TFA: Poe's X-Wing picking off the TIE's outside of Maz's place?

TFA: BB-8's thumbs up?

TLJ: Holdo slicing through the Star Destroyers?

TLJ: Kylo killing Snoke and Rey snatching the lightsaber right after?

TLJ: R2-D2 playing Luke the Leia hologram message on the Falcon?

TLJ: Luke and Yoda?

TLJ: Luke's Force projection on Crait?

I'll admit that Canto Bight and Rose's dip**** line about "not fighting what we hate, but saving what we love" will be ST moments remembered for the same reasons most of the PT moments will be remembered for: they were memorably terrible! But c'mon, man. Not even one from the list above!?
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Do you seriously believe that none of these ST moments will be remembered in the next few years?

TFA: Han and Chewie stepping back onto the Falcon?

TFA: Kylo freezing the blaster shot with the Force and only letting it go when he walked away?

TFA: Poe's X-Wing picking off the TIE's outside of Maz's place?

TFA: BB-8's thumbs up?

TLJ: Holdo slicing through the Star Destroyers?

TLJ: Kylo killing Snoke and Rey snatching the lightsaber right after?

TLJ: R2-D2 playing Luke the Leia hologram message on the Falcon?

TLJ: Luke and Yoda?

TLJ: Luke's Force projection on Crait?

I'll admit that Canto Bight and Rose's dip**** line about "not fighting what we hate, but saving what we love" will be ST moments remembered for the same reasons most of the PT moments will be remembered for: they were memorably terrible! But c'mon, man. Not even one from the list above!?

Nah they suck.

But caped baldy is right . Can’t change your minds. I don’t see many people in this thread anyway but like 4 in total lol. I guess it found it’s audience but damaged a lot of people’s faith. Just can’t see why you guys like the ST. But I’m sure it resonates with you differently than it did many others. So I’m not gonna ruin ur fun in derailing the thread by talking about how I think Rots is a superior movie
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

You haters will have your butts in the seats when this comes out- look at what kind of $$$$ TLJ made- look at where it is in all time box office hits. Yeah it was a disaster:lol
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

You haters will have your butts in the seats when this comes out- look at what kind of $$$$ TLJ made- look at where it is in all time box office hits. Yeah it was a disaster:lol

This was exactly my assumption before Solo hit but now all bets are off. If the shockingly good Solo bombed because of a legitimate boycott then Rey, Finn, Rose, and Maz should all be very nervous...
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Just think about what Lucas did.

He took the greatest villain in cinematic history and reduced him to NOOOOOOO!

Nothing Rian did even comes close to that level of character destruction.

Lucas gave us NOOOO

Hamill gave us his best performance.
 
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Just think about what Lucas did.

He took the best villain in cinematic history and reduced him to NOOOOOOO!

It's really quite unbelievable. 22 years of waiting to see Vader's suit and hear JEJ's voice again and George reduced him to a laughing stock in the first 60 seconds that he was back on the big screen.

Thank God Rogue One finally gave us a "prequel" Vader worthy of the OT.

Nothing Rian did even comes close to that level of character destruction.

Lucas gave us NOOOO

Hamill gave us his best performance.

Yep, the actor who hated the movie the most was the one who ended up saving it, just like his character, lol.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

“No....I cant....she was alive......”

“I am afraid in your rage you killed her”

Terrible terrible......

That to...

Where are those transmissions you intercepted????


Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

You haters will have your butts in the seats when this comes out- look at what kind of $$$$ TLJ made- look at where it is in all time box office hits. Yeah it was a disaster:lol

Nope lol
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

It's really quite unbelievable. 22 years of waiting to see Vader's suit and hear JEJ's voice again and George reduced him to a laughing stock in the first 60 seconds that he was back on the big screen.

Thank God Rogue One finally gave us a "prequel" Vader worthy of the OT.



Yep, the actor who hated the movie the most was the one who ended up saving it, just like his character, lol.

60 freaking seconds ouch lol

I was just thinking about that dichotomy with Hamill/Luke crazy stuff.

I don’t care if it was Gareth or Gilroy but whomever was responsible for that 3rd act in RO specifically Vader I just want them back onboard.

Solo 4K in a mere few weeks. :yess:
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

It's really quite unbelievable. 22 years of waiting to see Vader's suit and hear JEJ's voice again and George reduced him to a laughing stock in the first 60 seconds that he was back on the big screen.

Thank God Rogue One finally gave us a "prequel" Vader worthy of the OT.

It was unforgivable. And may be the prime reason I rank ROTS paddy last of all the films. Something I thought might redeem so much about the PT - the first chronological appearance of the Darth Vader we know - something that I thought couldn't possibly be ruined - Lucas found a way. And so instead it was just a final nugget of ***t on the pile.
 
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Nah they suck.

But caped baldy is right . Can’t change your minds. I don’t see many people in this thread anyway but like 4 in total lol. I guess it found it’s audience but damaged a lot of people’s faith. Just can’t see why you guys like the ST. But I’m sure it resonates with you differently than it did many others. So I’m not gonna ruin ur fun in derailing the thread by talking about how I think Rots is a superior movie

Ask them who their favorite ST character is and why. Laughable question.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

“No....I cant....she was alive......”

“I am afraid in your rage you killed her”

Terrible terrible......

That to...

Where are those transmissions you intercepted????




Much as I find the "Noooooo" cringeworthy, it *was* his breaking point. Add a further 19 years' descent into darkness and you've easily got RO/ANH Vader.

Plus aren't we *all* more measured and serious in our 40s than we were in our 20s? (Maybe not the best question for a toy forum!)
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Much as I find the "Noooooo" cringeworthy, it *was* his breaking point. Add a further 19 years' descent into darkness and you've easily got RO/ANH Vader.

Plus aren't we *all* more measured and serious in our 40s than we were in our 20s? (Maybe not the best question for a toy forum!)

Thats deep man......

My problem was always the “quick” decent. They could have easily skipped all of AOTC and made a montage of VADER post armor and his falling into more and more evil....

But Lucas had a vision....he wanted PT to end with Vader in armor....problem is he set it up terribly.



Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Ask them who their favorite ST character is and why. Laughable question.

Snoke and Kylo are my favorites. Not really a tough question for me to answer.

In fact, Snoke is my favorite SW character outside of the OT. I really appreciate a villain who comes across as competent and menacing without ever descending into a cartoonishly goofy persona; one who delivers strong dialogue that conveys some gravitas and credibility. I dig villains with underlying mystery to their character too; it makes them more intriguing to me. Snoke embodied all of this in TLJ. I loved the way he played Kylo and Rey for fools, and how he sat back and toyed with Rey in that throne room as if she was nothing compared with his mastery of the Force. Overconfidence being his only (and ultimately fatal) weakness sustained his sense of superiority while still leaving a vulnerability to be exploited. And Andy Serkis provided an awesome performance. I thought his delivery was perfect.

Kylo because his character has developed and expanded in a way that gives him a decent amount of depth and complexity. His motivations aren't spelled out in a formulaic or cookie-cutter way. It leaves him open to some interpretation, and offers enough nuance and unpredictability to have kept me guessing so far as to where his character was going. He's a credible threat because of his Skywalker lineage and the on-screen carnage he's been responsible for, but not without flaws and weaknesses - which keeps the character grounded. Cool costume in TFA (imo) also helped. I think Adam Driver has played Kylo pretty well, portraying the complexity/range of the character effectively.

I also think Poe is a cool character. Impulsive and rash, but driven by virtue. Somewhat of a flat character in TFA, but getting fleshed out more in TLJ (with the subplot of him learning to be more of an effective leader). Probably the most classically "Star Wars" character of the new crop - combining take-action hero qualities (that can get him in trouble) with humor and charisma (to help get him out of trouble). And, like many of the cast (particularly in TLJ), Oscar Isaac does a good job with his screen time. His comedic timing is spot-on, even when the jokes were inserted into the script in ways that I didn't like. And the comedic side doesn't undercut the character's more serious side.

Good actors, well-written dialogue, and some creative characterization with all three as far as I'm concerned. It's all subjective, of course, but that's a given when asking about a "favorite" anything.
 
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Kylo is a pussie. No good reason for his turn to the Dark Side. Snoke was waisted. Poe became a propaganda device for an anti masculinity message. Know your place in the Matriarchy. Never question the wisdom of the superior sex (especially a Gender Studies teacher) or be ***** slapped for the piece of garbage mansplainer you are.
 
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