Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

a-dev who did you leave the cave coordinates with?!

Spoiler

 

[xipotec]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Wow, you guys are still at it! You’re still doing it! Same conversations.

The one that really disappoints me the most is a-dev. You’re still young bro. Why are you still here man. Every year, I take a holiday. I go to Dublin, there's this pub, on the banks of the bay. Every fine evening, I'd sit there and order a lager. I had this fantasy, that I would look across the tables and I'd see you there, with a wife and maybe a couple of kids. You wouldn't say anything to me, nor me to you. But we'd both know that you made it, that you were happy. Stop posting on toy and movie forums. I always knew there was nothing here for you, except pain and tragedy. And I wanted something more for you than that. I still do.

Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

 

[ironwez20]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Wow, you guys are still at it! You’re still doing it! Same conversations.

The one that really disappoints me the most is a-dev. You’re still young bro. Why are you still here man. Every year, I take a holiday. I go to Dublin, there's this pub, on the banks of the bay. Every fine evening, I'd sit there and order a lager. I had this fantasy, that I would look across the tables and I'd see you there, with a wife and maybe a couple of kids. You wouldn't say anything to me, nor me to you. But we'd both know that you made it, that you were happy. Stop posting on toy and movie forums. I always knew there was nothing here for you, except pain and tragedy. And I wanted something more for you than that. I still do.

They really be having the same convo on why TLJ doesn’t suck. Same 4 people. Damn I miss the different opinions in the star wars thread lol. The theories and the heartbroken fans who felt betrayed. Now it’s. Man TLJ was awesome bro! Yea I agree. Same here!

 

[Sachiel]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Bingo. The heroes fall asleep at the wheel practically *enabling* evil to gain a foothold which then instantly materializes in the exact same form it had in the previous war causing possibly more death and destruction the first day they are mobilized than 20 years of Empire rule! All on Han, Luke, and Leia's watch. They apparently created absolutely nothing that could sustain itself post-ROTJ without the three of them actively involved. No self-sustaining New Republic spear-headed by Leia. No self-sustaining New Jedi Order created by Luke. Nothing. Just the most fragile house of cards that immediately crumbles at the first sign of trouble scattering our beloved heroes to the four corners of the galaxy. No matter how many ways I've seen those events intellectualized and rationalized, even by myself when my glossy eyed fandom for the new flicks was at a fever pitch, it still doesn't make such a sequence of events feel like anything but a bitter betrayal of the promise that the ending of ROTJ implied. That's just how I see it.

I'm fine with new bad guys, new wars, new battles and trials. But I wanted Luke to be an enlightened equal to Yoda like Ben was in the OT, not him back to being a petulant pupil. We got to see Obi-Wan be reckless and headstrong in the PT where he was lectured by Yoda and then grow to become Yoda's contemporary in the OT. I think it was wrong to deny Jedi Master Luke similar (or even greater) stature. Now in the interest of full disclosure while I think that TLJ was "wrong" in the choices it made with Luke I still fully enjoy Mark Hamill's performance and a good many of his scenes just on their own. But as an extension of his character from SW/ESB/ROTJ not as much.

I think the threat that appeared in the ST should have been completely set apart from the Empire and one that would have tested the New Jedi Order and Republic over the course of three films, possibly bringing both parties dangerously close to the brink of defeat before the grand legacy of Luke and Leia ultimately prevailed. Not total annihilation of Luke's pupils off screen and between films followed by the wiping out of the ineffectual New Republic at the press of a button. It just no longer sits well with me and unless Episode IX does something magical I don't think it ever truly will.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

a-dev who did you leave the cave coordinates with?!

Spoiler

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Khev Tico.

They really be having the same convo on why TLJ doesn’t suck. Same 4 people. Damn I miss the different opinions in the star wars thread lol. The theories and the heartbroken fans who felt betrayed. Now it’s. Man TLJ was awesome bro! Yea I agree. Same here!

What? If that's your impression I don't think you've been paying attention. And that's fine. Lads, anyone who isn't interested in the conversation going on here is welcome to not read it.

 

[Khev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Khev Tico, lol.

jye: "What could possibly be bad about such a beautiful movie."

Khev: "Look closer."

jye zooms in and sees RJ whipping vintage Luke Skywalker action figures.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I’m just trying to murder the ones I love and save the ones I hate.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

My prediction.

IX will be the Aquaman of the ST.

JJ will throw every OT and PT connections in there to try and appease both groups.

I’ll say this though.

ironwez is wrong this hasn’t just been a circle jerk of ST lovers.

MAD PROPS to ajp for posting such an incredibly well thought out defense of the ST which only served to welcome an equal level of responses i’m happy these conversations took place.

I might be a TLJ defender but i’m NOT IN DENIAL I have NOT grown attached to these new characters as I had hoped I would BUT c’mon man I just can’t turn my back on Han, Luke and Leia.

Besides cut me some slack I can’t go hang out in the End Game thread until after opening night lol

 

[ironwez20]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Khev Tico.



What? If that's your impression I don't think you've been paying attention. And that's fine. Lads, anyone who isn't interested in the conversation going on here is welcome to not read it.

Lol then what is going on here ?

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

A going away party for Khev he’s moving from IX to Avengers End Game as his preferred place to live.

 

[ironwez20]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

That seems ideal tbh

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I agree the MCU has surpassed SW as a whole for providing consistently quality entertainment.

I’m way more excited for AEG than I am for IX which is just freaking insane for me to even feel that way.

 

[Sachiel]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I just can’t turn my back on Han, Luke and Leia.

The story of Han, Luke and Leia ended with Return of the Jedi.

The ST is a dumb derivative cash-grab using OT characters as nostalgia bait.

Rogue One felt fresher even though it was set during the OT era with the original Death Star and a freaking CGI Tarkin.

 

[ironwez20]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I agree the MCU has surpassed SW as a whole for providing consistently quality entertainment.

I’m way more excited for AEG than I am for IX which is just freaking insane for me to even feel that way.

Same. Hopefully EG doesn’t disappoint

 

[JAWS]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Well let's go grab a beer and watch the real TFA (The First Avenger) now, lol.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Khev and JAWS right now

Nah.. I really don't feel like going through all of this again.. The ST for me are very flawed films, which lack imagination and are full of missed opportunities. They TFA and TLJ have ruined my excitement for SW. I honestly don't care about the next film.. Sure I will see it.. I mean its SW but if someone was to say.. "Disney has decided to stop making SW film and there will be no Episode 9" I would feel bad for the fans but, personally, it would not even register as an emotional blip .


I am just glad Kevin saw the light.. Soon Jye will join us and all will be right in the world



a-dev has always been a wise one

 

[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Lol then what is going on here ?

ajp was on one side (pro ST). Me and Khev were on the other (booo ST). We were having a debate in which we were all mutually interested in what the other had to say. It was a peaceful conversation - opposing views expressed without devolving into insults and a flamewar. Maybe that's where the confusion is.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Mark my words never underestimate the visual and musical power of SW to reignite interest even in the most jaded of OT fans regardless which side of the political spectrum you subscribe too.

IX - Mandalorian - Cassian trailers and End Game are just two weeks apart this forum is going to be hopping lol

 

[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

That post reads like a swipe at ironwez, I don't intend it like that.