Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[SilverStar17]

TROS is worse than TLJ? Is that possible?

JJ and Kennedy found a way.

Splat!

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Fans: It can’t possibly be worse than TLJ.

JJ: Hold my beer.

 

[ajp4mgs]

I just watched a couple of leaked scenes from the climax of the movie, and holy **** that was awful! The cringe factor is totally off the charts. And the resolution of the Palpatine conflict might be the single-stupidest and most nonsensical thing I've ever seen in a SW movie.

I've been accused of being a SW homer, but even I would challenge *anyone* to watch those scenes and tell me that they aren't embarrassingly bad. So many "WTF?" thoughts crossing my mind in the span of just a few minutes worth of footage.

Since I enjoyed TLJ, I know that my opinion means nothing around here, but there are so many bad - and just plain nonsense - elements in what I've seen today that I can't help but wonder how anyone is going to be able justify any of it. Very little logic on its own, and absolutely zero logic relative to earlier SW context. Just wow!

 

[Ropen]

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/12/18/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-review


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/star-wars-rise-skywalker-review-1263578

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[Ropen]

The nerve of this guy


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...ls-pandering-star-wars-fans-a-mistake-1263697


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[Asta]

Palpatine: "I am all the Sith!"

Rey: "Ok Boomer."

 

[SilverStar17]

The nerve of this guy


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...ls-pandering-star-wars-fans-a-mistake-1263697


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Here we go with the “you’re all just too stupid to understand it” excuse in so many words. Hollywood just can’t get out of its own way.

 

[BadMuthaDude]

I didn?t really have any interest in watching this but I wasn?t going to sit at home alone while my family goes to see it so I?m in for Saturday. From what little I?ve read, I now look forward to seeing how wacky this thing gets. It?s getting difficult to resist reading the spoilers.

 

[Nailz]

Why in the world would Pal continue to use lighting it always seems to be the work against him

Palpatine: "I am all the Sith!"

Rey: "Ok Boomer."

 

[BadMuthaDude]

Why am I getting question marks in place of apostrophes?

 

[SilverStar17]

Why in the world would Pal continue to use lighting if it always kills him.

So as opposed to leaving a fitting, dramatic death for him in RotJ, they decided to essentially go back to RotS and have Windu finish the job per se where Palps dies from his own lightning being deflected back him via a lightsaber, before Anakin intervened.

 

[Asta]

It's okay. The Sequel Trilogy was just a bad dream.

Wait for Disney to cast the current sequels into the 'Legends' category, and reboot them with the real sequel trilogy using CGI to recreate the original OT heroes facing off against the Remnant.

 

[ZE_501]

Palpatine: "I am all the Sith!"

Rey: "Ok Boomer."

[snip video]

That clip should really be in spoiler tags for those so inclined. I watched it and:

Spoiler

Actually seeing Undead Palpatine is lamer than I thought. And what's with the Endgame rip-off in the dialogue? It's like they're not even trying to make a good movie.

 

[a-dev]

It's okay. The Sequel Trilogy was just a bad dream.

Yeah

Wait for Disney to cast the current sequels into the 'Legends' category, and reboot them with the real sequel trilogy using CGI to recreate the original OT heroes facing off against the Remnant.

But nah. ROTJ was the ending. It'll be fine.

 

[ironwez20]

They are gonna retcon this so hard

 

[ajp4mgs]

So as opposed to leaving a fitting, dramatic death for him in RotJ, they decided to essentially go back to RotS and have Windu finish the job per se where Palps dies from his own lightning being deflected back him via a lightsaber, before Anakin intervened.

Keeping the lightning going with Mace in the ROTS scene at least has the plausible excuse of Palps knowing that Anakin would only intervene if that continued. Plus, he got right up and seemed to be relatively healthy. He was in control of what he could withstand; it was an opportunity cost. But in that clip above . . .

Spoiler

He has no reason whatsoever to keep the lightning going. Rey is just standing there, having enough time to review a dinner menu, and he keeps shooting it in the same direction like a ****ing moron. The greatest Sith of all time is apparently too stupid to even pivot to a new tactic. He's also too stupid to realize that it's being deflected back to him, so he continues to just let it happen until he dies.

The same guy who had such incredible foresight to plan and orchestrate the collapse of the Republic and the dawn of the Empire, is now so short-sighted that he lets himself die because he couldn't see this simple deflection coming . . . and didn't bother to stop even after it was clearly going to be his demise. Unbelievably awful writing and execution, imo. Just sad.

 

[SilverStar17]

I was personally never an advocate for them bringing back Palpatine in the first place. Right from the start, it was demonstrable to me it was because they had no clue in which to take the story in this trilogy. That leaked final scene just to me confirms it completely dilutes the story told in Episodes I-VI, and you may as well had him die in Episode III at Windu’s hand.

Spoiler

Since that?s apparently how he ultimately ends up dying anyway in this film by Rey channeling the Force of every Jedi, which includes Windu.

Keeping the lightning going with Mace in the ROTS scene at least has the plausible excuse of Palps knowing that Anakin would only intervene if that continued. Plus, he got right up and seemed to be relatively healthy. He was in control of what he could withstand; it was an opportunity cost. But in that clip above . . .

Spoiler

He has no reason whatsoever to keep the lightning going. Rey is just standing there, having enough time to review a dinner menu, and he keeps shooting it in the same direction like a ****ing moron. The greatest Sith of all time is apparently too stupid to even pivot to a new tactic. He's also too stupid to realize that it's being deflected back to him, so he continues to just let it happen until he dies.

The same guy who had such incredible foresight to plan and orchestrate the collapse of the Republic and the dawn of the Empire, is now so short-sighted that he lets himself die because he couldn't see this simple deflection coming . . . and didn't bother to stop even after it was clearly going to be his demise. Unbelievably awful writing and execution, imo. Just sad.

 

[pixletwin]

I do still care enough about this movie that I don?t want to be spoiled; so I?m out of here.

 

[ZE_501]

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Spoiler

[...] Unbelievably awful writing and execution, imo. Just sad.

?Who is more foolish? The fool or the fan who follows him??

So many of us are still going to pay money to see this, even to hate-watch it.

I'm conflicted. I want to see the dazzling FX spectacle on the big screen, but don't want to support a product that insults my intelligence.

 

[ajp4mgs]

?Who is more foolish? The fool or the fan who follows him??

So many of us are still going to pay money to see this, even to hate-watch it.

I'm conflicted. I want to see the dazzling FX spectacle on the big screen, but don't want to support a product that insults my intelligence.

Oh, I'm definitely the bigger fool. JJ has cashed his check. KK the same. Disney will still make a billion dollars or more on this. But I'm the one willingly paying them to piss me off. I don't even have the excuse of having stayed spoiler free, so in a battle of who is most foolish, I'm wearing the duncecap crown.

 

[Rotfish]

Fans: It can?t possibly be worse than TLJ.

JJ: Hold my beer.

I think critics are only bashing the film because it undoes everything they loved (and fans hated) about TLJ.

Not saying TROS isn't clumsy (how can it not be?), but there's undoubtedly some spitefulness tinting "professional" reviews, making them read worse than the movie may deserve.

Still avoiding the new movie because no matter what it does or doesn't undo, the entire trajectory of the story has been FUBAR'd by TLJ. Nostalgia be damned, the majority of this franchise just sucks. I can't convince myself to watch, let alone like it out of some sense of duty to the property as a whole. It's a preposterous idea.