Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[Getter Dragon]

I have no complaints

You should have many.

 

[Khev]

17. Rey takes the Skywalker name!

What was cool about that was Palpatine's line that there is an energy stronger than blood and that Sith powers were flowing through her. But prior to that they said that when a Jedi heals it is by transferring some of his/her "life" into the other person. So when Ben saved her she quite literally became a Skywalker...from a certain point of view.

 

[JAWS]

No boss battles this time around.

Overall I was very happy with the movie and the incredible effort made to make sense out of the cluster that was the PT + OT + unexplained 32 year gap + TFA + RJ, lol.

And I'll say right up once again that my #1 fan-fiction wish for the finale ever since watching TFA was to have Rey put on the Vader mask, distract Kylo, then run him through. I never actually thought I'd get that of course but then Leia kind of did that by seemingly appearing in Kylo's mind with a Palpatine-esque hood...which distracted him so that Rey could run him through. Well **** close enough I say.

The Rey/Kylo/Palpatine scenes were fantastic IMO almost straight across the board (though I didn't love showing a massive Sith legion only to have them just stand there and die.) The thing that kind of blows my mind though, and the one thing I thought was an absolutely sure thing, was that they did indeed show the mother of all space battles...and it was kind of unexciting. Um, what?? That's a head scratcher for sure. All right then, expectations subverted I guess, lol.

However I loved almost everything else.

So Ben Solo (not Rey, Luke or Anakin) becomes "the most powerful Jedi" ever by keeping the person he cared about from dying. The Sith legend fulfilled, after the ultimate destruction of the Sith, a Sith legend that could only be fulfilled by a Jedi since it requires the person doing the saving to die. That I wasn't expecting. That was excellent. It really casts those ROTS scenes with Palpatine telling Anakin that together one day they'll achieve that power in a different light since together they *did* achieve that power through their combined grandchildren.

I liked that the mystery of Rey's power was that she was merely a Force conductor and not the most powerful Force user. That's how I saw it anyway. The entirety of the Sith vs. the entirety of the Jedi doing battle through their respective proxies (Palps clone and Rey) one last time.

I liked that Rey wielded the combined sabers of Luke and Leia at the end, a nice remnant of George's original ST where Luke and his twin sister defeated Palps together.

Jannah was silly but thankfully inoffensive due to the briefness of her role. The whole battle on the outside of the Star Destroyer with Finn, Hannah, and everyone just did nothing for me though. Again I'm shocked because I thoroughly enjoyed the first 2/3 of the film and normally the big battle at the end is where all the good stuff happens, hell even AOTC delivered in that regard.

But I can't say enough about the Rey/Palps/Ben Solo stuff. In fact Ben is by far my favorite character of this trilogy now. And I'm very glad that Palps went out on a high note (IMO) after all the goofy faces and flying around he did in ROTS.

Lando was a lot of fun, not the biggest role obviously but you could tell Billy Dee was having a ball.

I liked the surprises this time around, they didn't feel done just to trick the audience or piss us off, I thought they actually made the story more interesting.

The different clones and Snokes in tubes felt very "Dark Empire-ish" to me, which I also really liked.

A nice return to the film's roots there at the very end too.

Overall it's surreal to be here at the end now of all three trilogies and thankfully I think their little hail mary delivered in the end. I see that for several people here it was just the final nail in the tragedy of Disney's ST or what have you but fortunately the stuff that this film got right was for the most part the stuff I was deep down hoping they'd get right regardless of the surprisingly ho hum space battle.

Thank god we wont be arguing about this movie Khev


I also agree about there final space / Dog fight battle lacking... But the "On your Left" Lando moments played better then I could have possibly imagine. Mostly due to Williams score though.

It had a moment or two but IMO RO and ROTJ still have easily the best space battles and nothing in this movie other than Lando showing up came close to those two films.

 

[JAWS]

Holeeee crap.

Right on!

You should have many.

Nope not a one.. It reminded me so much of the fun adventurous feelings of ANH with the darkness of ESB.

I feel bad for the SW fan that could not connect with this film.. Because I did and I am overjoyed

I thought SW was lost for me.

What was cool about that was Palpatine's line that there is an energy stronger than blood and that Sith powers were flowing through her. But prior to that they said that when a Jedi heals it is by transferring some of his/her "life" into the other person. So when Ben saved her she quite literally became a Skywalker...from a certain point of view.

lol.. I don't even need that point of view. I love that when she finally takes a last name that is the one she chooses.. Its just perfect and brought the saga together.

 

[Khev]

Thank god we wont be arguing about this movie Khev


I also agree about there final space / Dog fight battle lacking... But the "On your Left" Lando moments played better then I could have possibly imagine. Mostly due to Williams score though.

It had a moment or two but IMO RO and ROTJ still have easily the best space battles and nothing in this movie other than Lando showing up came close to those two films.

Yep, totally agree. I also agree on Han appearing to Ben. I almost lost it there, lol. Perfect reinstatement of Ben Solo's character and to me it washed away the downer of Han's tragic demise. I also got a kick out of Wedge, but yes I wonder how many people in the audience even knew it was him, lol. Did you catch John Williams tending bar in that one scene too.

 

[Khev]

lol.. I don't even need that point of view. I love that when she finally takes a last name that is the one she chooses.. Its just perfect and brought the saga together.

True the scene totally works at face value, I just like that it *also* works in a metaphysical genetic Force sense too.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I didn't hate TROS by any means -- not like TLJ -- but I did not have nearly that reaction. I think the first hour I was enjoying it despite a lot of bumps, but it started falling apart for me right around or after Zorii... then it entered la-la land where stuff just got weird and rushed and nonsensical (for me).

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Is the "Holdo Maneuver" when you write a scene that completely ruins a story's 40 year established lore or when you have a male protagonist castrated by a strong white female because his gender makes him toxic?

We'll need a brave volunteer to perform the "Holdo Maneuver"

I'll volunteer, sir.

Good, then I'll explain. When you get the signal, you will take our biggest ship, hit the light speed button, and strike the enemy ship at the speed of light. Any questions?

At what point do I exit the ship, sir?

Impossible, cadet. You must remain in your seat at all times. The last thing you should see is a huge ball of fire upon making contact with the enemy ship. That's when you'll know that you have executed the Holdo Maneuver properly.

 

[JAWS]

LoL

I loved lots of it but ultimately the Palpatine plot just crumbles into a confusing convoluted mess.

I do like it that even Vader understood the force better than Palpatine because Vader says that the ability to destroy planets with WMD is insignificant compared to the force yet here is the grand wizard of the Sith building and relying on more WMD.

The movie has a great pace and characters that were on a proper cadence this time out much more exciting than TFA.

Some of the action set pieces were astounding especially that saber battle.

Leia?s death was properly handled attached to Kylo and Han.

Sabers never sounded or looked better.

I?m just shocked that this horrible director actually created a fast paced somewhat thrilling movie especially when compared to TFA.

BUT THAT PALPATINE lol

Movie should?ve opened with Palpatines voice booming over Endor with the Ewoks cowering in fear.

I have no issue with Palps return.. I don't even know how he did it.. But I loved him in the role. Loved how he looked and because everything else was handled well I was very forgiving.

 

[JAWS]

Yep, totally agree. I also agree on Han appearing to Ben. I almost lost it there, lol. Perfect reinstatement of Ben Solo's character and to me it washed away the downer of Han's tragic demise. I also got a kick out of Wedge, but yes I wonder how many people in the audience even knew it was him, lol. Did you catch John Williams tending bar in that one scene too.

Yeah I saw Williams

I agree about it washing away Han's demise..

I have said that there was a chance that the third film could possibly redeem the first two.. I don't think it stood a chance in hell of doing so.. But it did.

10 out of 10 from me.

1st time viewing experience.... best movie of the decade for me

I am sure I will cool to this movie with repeat viewings.. Maybe Ill just never watch it again

 

[Khev]

I have no issue with Palps return.. I don't even know how he did it.. But I loved him in the role. Loved how he looked and because everything else was handled well I was very forgiving.

Just in case you aren't following the ST Fan Thread I just posted this bit there:

The entire duel and aftermath on the DS wreckage was pretty much perfection for me.

The crashing blue waves that gave a reverse echo of the splashing lava of the Mustafar duel. The panic on Rey's face when she realized that the back and forth slicing maneuvers that defeated Kylo on Starkiller Base weren't working, and then of course Ben Solo's moment with you know who.

 

[Khev]

I have said that there was a chance that the third film could possibly redeem the first two.. I don't think it stood a chance in hell of doing so.. But it did.

After TLJ and IW could you have ever imagined that here you'd one day be with your current thoughts on both EG and TROS, lol.

 

[JAWS]

I didn't hate TROS by any means -- not like TLJ -- but I did not have nearly that reaction. I think the first hour I was enjoying it despite a lot of bumps, but it started falling apart for me right around or after Zorii... then it entered la-la land where stuff just got weird and rushed and nonsensical (for me).

Man.. I was just there... I was all in. I was in shock. I still am. I cant believe how much I loved it.

Time for way too soon Rankings

1. ANH
2. ESB
3. TROS
4. ROTJ
5. TPM
6. TFA
7. TLJ
8. ROTS
9. AOTC

Yep.. TLJ is no longer in last place because of how much I enjoyed this film.

 

[JAWS]

After TLJ and IW could you have ever imagined that here you'd one day be with your current thoughts on both EG and TROS, lol.

Not at all! Nuts!!!!

 

[The Chaver]

Never going to see this movie.

Who?s coming with me? [emoji23]


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[Wor-Gar]

Man.. I was just there... I was all in. I was in shock. I still am. I cant believe how much I loved it.

Time for way too soon Rankings

1. ANH
2. ESB
3. TROS
4. ROTJ
5. TPM
6. TFA
7. TLJ
8. ROTS
9. AOTC

Yep.. TLJ is no longer in last place because of how much I enjoyed this film.

WOW!

I am going to be very curious how this plays for you in subsequent viewings. 3rd best? 3rd? AND it boosted TLJ up? How does that even work? Especially when TROS spends a lot of time deliberately UNDOING that previous film.

And where does RO land now?

 

[momaw]

Did Chewie need to get captured.. Nope. But I loved his rescue.

Chewies capture, or more importantly Rey's belief she had killed Chewie (which you couldn't have without the capture) was a vital step for her recognising the danger within herself of the darkside and that if she slipped, those she loved would pay the price. This was a huge growth moment for her.

 

[JAWS]

Chewies capture, or more importantly Rey's belief she had killed Chewie (which you couldn't have without the capture) was a vital step for her recognising the danger within herself of the darkside and that if she slipped, those she loved would pay the price. This was a huge growth moment for her.

Well there you go..... Its perfect.

 

[DiFabio]

I got filled with emotion. I got teary eyed. I freaking clapped at one point.. I NEVER CLAP!!
(1st tear up)
(2nd tear up)

Thank you JJ!

You'd have been taking a trip to the bathroom and getting a swirly if you had done this in my theater old man.

 

[jye4ever]

I have no issue with Palps return.. I don't even know how he did it.. But I loved him in the role. Loved how he looked and because everything else was handled well I was very forgiving.

Imagine how freaking creepy and scary it would?ve been had the movie started on a peaceful night on Endor with the Ewoks settling in with their families on the trees and then all of a sudden Palps voice looms over the silent air cackling and mocking them.

But oh gosh I will never not praise Ian the dude is a legend he chews and owns the scenes like no other can.

I teared up with Han.

Hell I teared up like 4 x lol

Leia stopping Kylo
Han holy crap Han!
Calvary
Luke-Leia

Wedge I grinned huge with a fist pump thrown in lol

But man what a nonsensical over convoluted family plot.

Palpatine had kids who knew lol

Also

Rose: Crap
Bliss: Crap
Holdo: Crap
Babu: Crap
D-O: Crap
Lord of the Rings guy: Crap
Fisher?s daughter: Crap
Maz: Crap
XWing pilot fat guy JJ friend: Crap




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