Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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So George supposedly came back and helped them rework the story? It kind of felt like it had more of his fingerprints on this one than the last two. I know that for ROTS he openly stated that he wanted there to be a notable Shakespearan element to the Saga and you don't get much more Shakespearan than Rey and Ben's final moments together that were straight out of Romeo and Juliet.

According to leaks JJ reached out to him for story advice for the first cut of TROS, which Disney promptly threw in the trash because the villain wasn't a huge Sith Lord like Palpatine. It's rumored that's who Matt Smith was playing before they cut him from the project. Originally Palpatine wasn't going to have a physical presence in the movie at all, but would still be referenced.

There's allegedly six different cuts of this movie. Six. :lol
 
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I despised it. I despised the characters. I despised the fact that it even existed in the first place, and that goes for all three Disney trilogy movies.



For the last four years I've had a throbbing, pulsating hate boner for these **** films, and seeing the bits and pieces I skimmed through in my pirated copy of Ep ( the last few days erupted in a metaphorical ball-draining catharsis of hate *******. But now I'm exhausted keeping up with the constant hate and bickering.



My hate is spent. I'm done. I'm at peace now. I'm putting the whole thing behind me and just focusing on the elements of SW I love, like the OT and The Mandalorian and the kick-*** 6 inch action figure line, (including, yes, the Old Man Luke figures from these vile films.) No more arguing or trolling or flame baiting from me.



To quote our generation's most brilliant mind, both philosphical and artistic:

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God forgive me....
 
Like the prequels, the ST will fade from memory very quickly, and the backbone of what keeps SW alive and enduring, the OT, will continue to delight each new generation.

My kids, my nephews, my kids friends, primarily go back to Rebels, The Clone Wars, and the OT. They've seen all the others, but they always go back to (specifically) the OT as their favourite characters are from the OT - Vader, Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, 3PO, R2, Jabba, Stormtroopers, etc - all the iconic and ever enduring characters. Hence why Vader has been voted the best cinema villain of all time. Not Maul, or Dooku, or Grievious, or even The Emperor. And none of this is rocket science - even people that love the PT and the ST don't rate those films anywhere near as high as the OT. There aren't the overt flaws, or excuses to justify liking them.

They are timeless, simple, good-old-fashion, story telling that has been around for thousands of years... the hero's journey. The PT & ST will forever ride on the back of the OT... it's just that simple.
 
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No boss battles this time around. ;)

Overall I was very happy with the movie and the incredible effort made to make sense out of the cluster that was the PT + OT + unexplained 32 year gap + TFA + RJ, lol.

And I'll say right up once again that my #1 fan-fiction wish for the finale ever since watching TFA was to have Rey put on the Vader mask, distract Kylo, then run him through. I never actually thought I'd get that of course but then Leia kind of did that by seemingly appearing in Kylo's mind with a Palpatine-esque hood...which distracted him so that Rey could run him through. Well **** close enough I say. :yess:

The Rey/Kylo/Palpatine scenes were fantastic IMO almost straight across the board (though I didn't love showing a massive Sith legion only to have them just stand there and die.) The thing that kind of blows my mind though, and the one thing I thought was an absolutely sure thing, was that they did indeed show the mother of all space battles...and it was kind of unexciting. Um, what?? :lol That's a head scratcher for sure. All right then, expectations subverted I guess, lol.

However I loved almost everything else.

So Ben Solo (not Rey, Luke or Anakin) becomes "the most powerful Jedi" ever by keeping the person he cared about from dying. The Sith legend fulfilled, after the ultimate destruction of the Sith, a Sith legend that could only be fulfilled by a Jedi since it requires the person doing the saving to die. That I wasn't expecting. That was excellent. It really casts those ROTS scenes with Palpatine telling Anakin that together one day they'll achieve that power in a different light since together they *did* achieve that power through their combined grandchildren.

I liked that the mystery of Rey's power was that she was merely a Force conductor and not the most powerful Force user. That's how I saw it anyway. The entirety of the Sith vs. the entirety of the Jedi doing battle through their respective proxies (Palps clone and Rey) one last time.

I liked that Rey wielded the combined sabers of Luke and Leia at the end, a nice remnant of George's original ST where Luke and his twin sister defeated Palps together.

Jannah was silly but thankfully inoffensive due to the briefness of her role. The whole battle on the outside of the Star Destroyer with Finn, Hannah, and everyone just did nothing for me though. Again I'm shocked because I thoroughly enjoyed the first 2/3 of the film and normally the big battle at the end is where all the good stuff happens, hell even AOTC delivered in that regard.

But I can't say enough about the Rey/Palps/Ben Solo stuff. In fact Ben is by far my favorite character of this trilogy now. And I'm very glad that Palps went out on a high note (IMO) after all the goofy faces and flying around he did in ROTS.

Lando was a lot of fun, not the biggest role obviously but you could tell Billy Dee was having a ball.

I liked the surprises this time around, they didn't feel done just to trick the audience or piss us off, I thought they actually made the story more interesting.

The different clones and Snokes in tubes felt very "Dark Empire-ish" to me, which I also really liked.

A nice return to the film's roots there at the very end too.

Overall it's surreal to be here at the end now of all three trilogies and thankfully I think their little hail mary delivered in the end. I see that for several people here it was just the final nail in the tragedy of Disney's ST or what have you but fortunately the stuff that this film got right was for the most part the stuff I was deep down hoping they'd get right regardless of the surprisingly ho hum space battle.

I agree with you on many points. This wasn?t the ending that I had in my mind for the ST, but then TFA wasn?t the start and TLJ certainly wasn?t the middle. I felt this film was a sort of satisfying conclusion to the mess that was the ST. I now have a sense of closure over the whole Disney Star Wars experiment. Believe me I?m not happy with any of the ST films in the slightest, but at the end of the day we have to accept them for what they are. Nothing or no one is able to change that now.
 
BTW: can anyone tell me why the Falcon's radar dish is round again?

This is the answer:

The Falcon lost its square radar dish during the Battle on Crait. It has a round radar dish in the trailers for The Rise of Skywalker. It’s still missing in Resistance Reborn. At some point between the novel and the movie, someone is going to attach a new dish to the Falcon roof.

https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/star-wars-resistance-reborn-rise-of-skywalker/
 
I saw this monstrosity last night and just like TLJ don't ever want to see it again...

One long incoherent claustrophobic mess that no amount of glossy SFX and nostalgic winks and nods can save...

Just a bunch of set-pieces thrown together with a whole lot of where,why and how the *****k did this and that happen...badly written and truly laughable.

Those involved in the making should bow their heads in shame...as this was not only the worse SW film...but one of the worst films ever made...

Thank the maker this awful trilogy is over.
 
Star Wars: The Rise Of Palpatine

Aunty Rey & Nephew Ben kiss .....

Yep, it really is a Star Wars movie.
 
I found it particularly funny how in one minute Zori went to wanting to kill Poe to giving him her most prized possession. Reminded me of that line from Army of Darkness, “First you want to kill me, then you want to kiss me. Blow!”
 
This movie was a convoluted mess that you can tell had to be chopped WAY down from what they originally wrote. Pretty much what I expected from the writer of Batman v Superman and Justice League. Seriously, how many critical bombs can you write in Hollywood and still keep getting work?

Despite that, I found it serviceable and even enjoyable in many spots. I just wish it evoked some emotions in me at some point, any point. The entire last act was where I checked out from the absurdity of it all. JJ especially has always ditched plot logistics for emotional payoffs, but this film had problems with both for me.

Afterwards I just kept thinking about how satisfying IW and Endgame were and all the instantly iconic and memorable scenes and lines that happen in both. And I love Star Wars 10,000 fold more than Marvel (that line in the movie was so dumb and ridiculous btw).

Right now my bottom 3 SW films are this, Last Jedi, and then AotC. In the end, this entire ST was completely unnecessary and pointless, only serving to depressingly show us how our 3 favorite heroes from the OT died...


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What was cool about that was Palpatine's line that there is an energy stronger than blood and that Sith powers were flowing through her. But prior to that they said that when a Jedi heals it is by transferring some of his/her "life" into the other person. So when Ben saved her she quite literally became a Skywalker...from a certain point of view.

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lol.. I don't even need that point of view. I love that when she finally takes a last name that is the one she chooses.. Its just perfect and brought the saga together.

True the scene totally works at face value, I just like that it *also* works in a metaphysical genetic Force sense too. :D

I agree it works, but why not Solo? I mean, besides it not working with the title of the film. :lol Due to TLJ she actually had more of a familial bond with Han than Luke. For a nanosecond I thought she was going to say "Rey. Rey Solo", but then I quickly came to my senses.
 
I wonder how the scene with Kylo and his father would have been better if it were Kylo and Anakin instead? Anakin could tell him that Vader is a bad role model.
 
I wonder how the scene with Kylo and his father would have been better if it were Kylo and Anakin instead? Anakin could tell him that Vader is a bad role model.

That's another fairly big plot hole.

Those ghosts get about, so why is the redeemed Anakin conveniently absent from all this Vader worship?

Kylo's physical symbol of worship is the burned helmet, which was essentially the outer shell that Anakin asked Luke to remove.
 
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