Star Wars: Rogue Squadron movie

[TheDucky]

After seeing WW84, this movie is gonna SUCK.

 

[greedo737]

Yuuuuuuuuup

 

[Khev]

It might be a blessing that WW84 sucked then (I haven't seen it so I can't say either way) so that PJ isn't given too much power for RS.

 

[matticus]

Kathleen strikes again!

https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-rogue-squadron-delayed
Top comment is, "Kathy Kennedy obviously finally got around to watching "WW84".

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

[Wor-Gar]

Surprised it took this long to formally say.

 

[loki2371]

Kathleen strikes again!

https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-rogue-squadron-delayed
Top comment is, "Kathy Kennedy obviously finally got around to watching "WW84".

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Kathleen Kennedy probably loved it (WW84).

The Bob's, not so much...

 

[jal76]

Will offer a small bounty to anyone who can provide verifiable evidence that absolutely ANYONE on the planet Earth is disappointed by the announcement that this movie has been “delayed.”
Delayed to…Never.
Maybe it’s time for them to “delay” anything else that may be brewing and give the whole franchise a well deserved fifteen years off.

 

[matticus]

Anyone else in KK's position and how she has handled directors and content would be fired by now. I'm surprised Lucas hasn't went over her head and made the CEO put someone else in charge.

 

[ironwez20]

Cause they’d have to admit the fans were right and they’d be deemed sexist or whatever. Or she probably has dirt on them . Idk

 

[aussiebottt]

Will offer a small bounty to anyone who can provide verifiable evidence that absolutely ANYONE on the planet Earth is disappointed by the announcement that this movie has been “delayed.”
Delayed to…Never.
Maybe it’s time for them to “delay” anything else that may be brewing and give the whole franchise a well deserved fifteen years off.

Star Wars doesn't need a 15 year rest. It needs decent stories.

 

[jal76]

Star Wars doesn't need a 15 year rest. It needs decent stories.

Well it’s been 6 years and I’m still waiting so…
Maybe make that a permanent rest.

 

[jal76]

Anyone else in KK's position and how she has handled directors and content would be fired by now. I'm surprised Lucas hasn't went over her head and made the CEO put someone else in charge.

Agree with your point about Kennedy’s complete and total failure, but how or why would Lucas make the CEO do anything?
Not to mention that she was Lucas’ handpicked choice to run Lucasfilm.

 

[matticus]

Some more details:

Former THR editor and noted insider Matthew Belloni reports that issues between Jenkins and the studio caused the film to be taken off Lucasfilm's production schedule. Specifically, Belloni reports that the issues have revolved around the film's script, stating that Jenkins and studio executives including senior VP Michelle Rejwan couldn't agree on how to move forward.

Belloni states that this is a "laughably recurring problem" at Lucasfilm. According to the article, a number of agents have previously reported that top filmmakers are often keen to sign on for a movie within the franchise, but find themselves hampered by issues of "micromanagement and plot-point-by-committee" processes.

Belloni cites that similar experiences were held by Game Of Thrones showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss who "bailed" on creating a new Star Wars trilogy as well as Rian Johnson, whose own trilogy was also shelved.

https://www.ign.com/articles/patty-...elved-star-wars-projects-creative-differences

 

[The Buffinator]

And here I thought this happened months ago...

Disney pulls Patty Jenkins’ Star Wars movie from the schedule

 

[YoNoSe]

I guess they need to distance themselves from the whole "the Force is female" thing since that's a controversial statement now. Divert funds to Tiger Wakanda's moofy!

 

[choombaz]

What the

https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-rogue-squadron-back-in-development-patty-jenkins-says

 

[davejames]

Can't wait to see Gal Gadot as an X-wing pilot.

 

[Dave_W]

Can't wait to see Gal Gadot as an X-wing pilot.

"porkins....no"

 

[MeatHookGekko]

I guess they need to distance themselves from the whole "the Force is female" thing since that's a controversial statement now.

What's interesting is that the WW1984 story was more built around Maxwell Lord rather than Wonder Woman herself.

Jenkins could have just ported over WW Dead Earth or WW A League Of One and literally shifted the comic panels into storyboards and kept the same stories and found much more success that way. Just like Schumacher's Batman films could have just lifted some episodes from Batman The Animated Series/Paul Dini and done much better for themselves.

Part of the backlash, I kid you not, was that Jenkins was accused of making Lord too sympathetic. Do I think the general movie going audience has super hero fatigue? I'm not quite sure. I do believe however that it's just easier for creatives to make the films they really want to make. And not use our childhood/young adult nostalgia as proxy vehicles for their axe grinding.

As a showrunner and producer, you have to be cognizant of your competitive space around you. Axe grinding isn't edgy if 75 percent of the other people at your level are doing it as well. If there is one hard fast rule of people in powerful industry positions, it's that you need at least one person who can keep you honest and say the ugly things to you when you need to be told ugly things about your work. There's a reason Daniel Day Lewis attempts to hide into an everyday working class aesthetic in most of his daily life. If you can no longer touch grass with average people who are a paycheck and a half away from being homeless and living check to check, then you are losing touch with a majority of the movie going audience in the country.

Jenkins wasn't railroaded for selling out Wonder Woman for a sub character to take free shots at Pascal's real life "counterpart" She was jobbed for not going for the kill after doing so. No half measures.

The bizarre irony to all this is the institutional investors behind the financing for most of this are betting, knowing it's a bad bet and will lose money most of the time, from what really amounts to public pension money. Yes, from working class people.

I see it a bit differently. I don't think the "Force Is Female" issue is a problem on it's own merits. It's OK to tell whatever story you want, but as long as it's a good story, well made, honest with it's characters and respects the audience. The larger problem I see is the general overall industry disdain for the working class aesthetic. ( When a creative does the opposite, shows empathy for the rank and file, it shows, IMHO, why something like Whiplash works in the other direction)

You have to let the audience decide for itself. You have to respect them enough to allow them the breathing room and the practical boundaries to make their own choices.

 

[pixletwin]

Whenever I see clips of that movie I get so irrritated. As as music educator, that character is so awful. Music is energy. What kind of energy will your band put out under circustances like that? My gawd.