Ben Kenobi coming out of retirement for one last hoorah? Say what!?
He went into "retirement" as Ewan McGregor at the end of ROTS. Yeah, he must've been totally washed up at that point.
Disney’s Kenobi will no doubt retcon this.
ANH Kenobi confronted Vader and chose to let himself die. How come? Why not use his TPM "Force Sprint" to join back up with Luke and the gang for their escape? He did it because the battle belonged to the new generation, and he could do more good as a passive Force ghost than as an active Jedi.
Don’t get cute. Force Sprint™ wasn’t invented until 1997, 20 years after Star Wars. Ben couldn’t use it because it wasn’t invented yet. Duh!
But no, he let himself be killed because Luke probably wouldn’t have left him otherwise. He also seemed pretty intent on ****ing with Vader, because even back then, Vader acted like he was a little know it all *****. Bet Vader didn’t know that Jedi can disappear when killed! GOT EM.
Also, I think Alec Guinness or Marsha Lucas suggested Obi-Wan had die to have a dramatic moment and a death in the picture. Think it was a rewrite.
OT Kenobi and ST Luke were the same. Both actors in their 60's; both characters having been turned on by their apprentice; both hiding out somewhere as a result - rather than being an active part of a rebellion; both being sought for help; and both sacrificing themselves to give the new crew a chance to survive. The generational transition is a part of SW.
The difference between the two characters is that ST Luke was given an explicit reason for staying out of the action for a few years (rather than 20!). He was given that reason because the director didn't want Luke aware of planets being destroyed while he stayed away on an island rather than getting involved, and aware of non-Jedi Han Solo tasked with (and died performing) a mission that should've been his.
No the difference is, Old Ben got his ass off of Tatooine and took part in the action . . .
ST Luke’s ass stayed on Ahch-oooo and merely pretended to be involved.
This is the crux of the argument. Old Ben is more exciting and more real than ST Luke. ST Luke serves the same functional story purpose, but if I wanna watch this type of story, then why not just ****in’ watch the one that does the story better like ANH, Empire Strikes Back or the Karate Kid?
ST is like a poor man’s OT, but with more convolutions. Why see this shallow, heavy handed story about Rey, Kylo and Palpatine when I can get a better one from the OT? There are too many explanations for the ST’s ridiculousness. The OT is a much more simple and grounded story in that regard. We don’t have to go to crazy lengths to explain Ben’s situation like we do Luke’s. We don’t have to go to crazy length’s about Palpatine’s reign and Luke’s origin as we do with Rey’s heritage and Palpatine’s obnoxious return. It’s all about simplicity.
So, Luke goes to the planet to shut himself off from the force. You say this is the case because the director (lol, more like handler) doesn’t want Luke to be aware of the planets that were destroyed or that Han was killed. Ok, fair enough? It’s still contrived BS that doesn’t change the fact that older story is better. Is this supposed to make me like Luke more, because it doesn’t. I learned through 6 Star Wars flicks that the Jedi can feel **** going down. Tremors in the force and such. Ben Kenobi feels Alderaan get blown up despite not being there, Vader can sense Kenobi’s presence, Yoda can feel when his Jedi bros are getting killed in the Order 66 drive by, etc. etc. So Luke can’t feel ANY of those things because of his isolation on this hidden planet. Shut off from the force. Got it. Good. After 6 movies, a Jedi can just turn their powers off.
HOW THE **** DOES A WEAK ASS JEDI THAT SHUT HIMSELF OFF FROM THE FORCE AND IS NUMB TO IT ALL SUDDENLY HAVE THE POWER TO PROJECT AN IMAGE OF HIMSELF (which is an awful illusion btw since it doesn’t even look like him as he appears in the present and contains the same lightsaber that Kylo knows (or should know) was just destroyed by him just the scene before) ACROSS THE UNIVERSE . . . FROM THE VERY PLANET HE CHOSE FOR IT’S ISOLATION PURPOSES?
Because it’s ****ing stupid, that’s why. It’s about as cinematic as a Bantha’s butt hole, and just as anti-climatic. The whole gag is “Ha, gotcha, Luke wasn’t even there!” and it lasts a couple of seconds. I have a quicker solution to that scene. When Finn and Tico go and commit suicide, the Nu-Rebels could just go and run away with the crystal salt foxes. Then boom, Rey comes, saves everybody and they move onto film three. Then Luke can be in film three and do what he did in film two (Absolutely nothing) and you’re down two obnoxious characters that don’t contribute to the final movie.