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Super Freak
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread
Lightning striking twice - let alone multiple times, is rare. Having great intentions about reigniting a franchise is one thing, but actually delivering.. well.
Disney seem to have all the talent & resources available now, to do SW the proper justice. They've also got the past 35 years as a guide basically, for what to do.. & not. As you say, the fab three should be there to ground the new series - not to dominate it, & pave the way for the new blood to take over.
There's a lot riding on all of this.
Yeah, good points man.That's what's so frustrating about that film - despite the CG elvis monkeys, the fire ants that eat people down to the bone in seconds and build cheerleader pyramids to go after people on high, despite the aliens, the fridge, the lack of a plot, the awkward, no-passion love scenes, the "make-big-trouble-for-moose-and-squirrel" villain, Shia LeDouche and the crotch-shot jokes (although watching him get whacked in the jewels over and over did have a sadistic appeal!), this movie showed that there was still potential. Ford still has charisma as Ford and can carry off the action (within reason). Marion would have been great if she had a purpose for being there (I even liked the wedding scene at the end). Even the era worked for Jones - Communists instead of Nazis, that's fine. A younger character to take over the whip? Sure, but not SHIA.
Someone on the boards once mentioned an earlier screenplay for Indy IV that actually acknowledged the passage of time. The movie opened up with an older Indy, who had holed up at the University and become "Professor Jones" full-time, hiding away from his former life and adopting his father's fuddy duddy ways. The scene is a parody of the fertility idol scene, played out in the university library, with Indy looking a bit of the fool. He then gets swept up into the main adventure of the movie, rediscovers his mojo and how much fun it was to be Indiana freakin' Jones, and away we go!
If you were to chop up KOTCS into the various scenes that worked on their own, you could see how they could be incorporated into such a film. University intro (mini stand-alone adventure that has little to do with main storyline, in the tradition of the other films), Mutt (as played by a good actor) shows up at the University, exposition, exposition, then the scene at the University with the KGB, Mutt, Indy and the motorcycle, some other stuff that introduces Mac and sets up the scene at area 51 (with a better villain), which goes up to the rocket sled coming to a stop, then on to an adventure about finding Atlantis and saving Marion's bacon. Okay, maybe not exactly as filmed, but the flavor of those scenes. It could have worked.
Likewise, I hope Episode VII acknowledges the elephant in the room and addresses the passage of time. These are not the Han, Luke, and Leia of our youths, nor should we expect them to be, but they can be used for good effect for the sake of the overall story.
Lightning striking twice - let alone multiple times, is rare. Having great intentions about reigniting a franchise is one thing, but actually delivering.. well.
Disney seem to have all the talent & resources available now, to do SW the proper justice. They've also got the past 35 years as a guide basically, for what to do.. & not. As you say, the fab three should be there to ground the new series - not to dominate it, & pave the way for the new blood to take over.
There's a lot riding on all of this.
