Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

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After watching TFA I wonder if STAR WARS is the Millenium Falcon, Han and Chewie!! Sure made me realize that STAR WARS is not Jedi's

Considering each trilogy encompasses a different chunk of time, of course it is not all about the Jedi.
 
No new starwars will ever have the magic of original trilogy

Force Awakens tied with New Hope? :lol don't think so
 
They aren't in control though. The New Republic won and they have been hiding for many years only to reappear. They never battled against the republic, only minor skirmishes against the Resistance. Although they destroyed the Republic, they are still in the middle rim trying to grasp control of the major planets at the core and inner rim. The Resistance and what is left of the Republic stand in the First Orders way of achieving complete galactic conquest. I think Episode 8 and 9 will be total war.

They were clearly in control enough to build a bigger ****ing Death Star and use it.:lol
 
Ok if i HAD to rank them.

I don't really wanna compare to OT cause it's so long ago and such a different time. Nothing can compare. after seeing it twice.....

ESB
ANH
ROTJ/TFA


But TFA "WILL BEGIN TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT"
 
No new starwars will ever have the magic of original trilogy

Force Awakens tied with New Hope? :lol don't think so


I am trying not to compare it to the OT... Like you said it can't be done... How can any film replicate that magic???

But this film does make me realize how special the OT is... It was lighting in the bottle twice and almost a third time... It's hard to pull that off.
 
WOW! TFA and ANH tied.... Damn I must have walked into the wrong movie :)

That's why I said "Right now." I *think* that I can confidently say that TFA and ANH are neck and neck behind ESB, but just in case I'm buzzing too much on having finally scene a "true" SW film since the OT I'm allowing for the rankings to change.

But for me TFA:

1. Felt like SW
2. Had characters that I loved (old and new, both good and bad)
3. Had great character interactions
4. Great visuals/exciting battles
5. Genuine surprises (even if the broad strokes were familiar)
5. Was funny
6. And was emotional

I think that #6 is what will keep it up there with ANH, might even surpass it on multiple viewings.

I love how TFA has inspired me to look at the OT in new ways. After seeing what Kylo's group did to the innocent civilians at the beginning I could totally see how Owen and Beru might have been torched by OT era flametroopers that just never appeared on screen.
 
That's why I said "Right now." I *think* that I can confidently say that TFA and ANH are neck and neck behind ESB, but just in case I'm buzzing too much on having finally scene a "true" SW film since the OT I'm allowing for the rankings to change.

But for me TFA:

1. Felt like SW
2. Had characters that I loved (old and new, both good and bad)
3. Had great character interactions
4. Great visuals/exciting battles
5. Genuine surprises (even if the broad strokes were familiar)
5. Was funny
6. And was emotional

I think that #6 is what will keep it up there with ANH, might even surpass it on multiple viewings.

I love how TFA has inspired me to look at the OT in new ways. After seeing what Kylo's group did to the innocent civilians at the beginning I could totally see how Owen and Beru might have been torched by OT era flametroopers that just never appeared on screen.

I was just busting on you... I wish I could have loved it as much as you. :( :(
 
Sorry you didn't like it Jaws. If you really want me to I will have to reply to you at a later date. Laptop is getting fixed and I know from prior conversations we tend to type essays :lol I can't do that on my ipad mini, thumbs cramp up way to easy. Plus I make a lot of typing errors and this thing glitches up in long responses.

:lol about the thumbs...

I think this is a case where you can write if you want to.... Nothing will change either of our minds.. However I am going to give it another shot in the theater... I think it has a chance to be something better in the following films.. It has good characters to set all that up... It just did not feel like a true SW film to me and did not effect me on any emotional level other then... Meh.. Is that an emotion. :lol
 
Ah. Yeah me too then. It was so great to feel like I was back in the "OT" again. Too bad it didn't rub you the same way.

Yeah... I just didn't get that SW feel... I actually believe it was missing Lucas. Not that I wanted him to direct or write but perhaps advise...

Much like the PT needed Lawrence Kasdan around. I think this film needed just a little bit of Lucas.... Just a little :lol
 
Much like the PT needed Lawrence Kasdan around. I think this film needed just a little bit of Lucas.... Just a little :lol

It had his characters. That was enough. ;)

Speaking of Lucas, he's done a lot of recent bellyaching that Disney discarded his original treatment for Episode VII in favor of the Arndt/Abrams/Kasdan story. Have any details of Lucas' outline been leaked onto the net?
 
Nah, I was aware that Han had to die and the box office torch had to be passed on to the new kids, HF wouldn't even do the movie unless he was killed.

I'm just slightly ticked off on how it was done. :lol

But you raise a great point, Leia didn't even give Chewie a hug did she?

Ughhh, this movie truly blows chunk.

I never said it suck I loved it. It was a missed opportunity.....

I think there are enough shots of Han reacting the certain questions about Rey to indicate he knows her......

As was the final scene.....if I were writing, the last shot would have been the light saber floating out of Reys hand and landing in Luke's hand....and igniting.......thruuujmmmmmmm...cut the John Williams ...
 
As a fan my rankings would be ROTS, ESB, TFA, ANH, TPM, ROTJ, AOTC. This list changes everyday it seems :lol

As a "critic" my rankings would be ESB, TFA, ANH, ROTS, ROTJ, TPM, AOTC
 
I'm expecting to be at least as good as ANH.
Careful there.... You could be setting yourself up.

It had his characters. That was enough. ;)

Speaking of Lucas, he's done a lot of recent bellyaching that Disney discarded his original treatment for Episode VII in favor of the Arndt/Abrams/Kasdan story. Have any details of Lucas' outline been leaked onto the net?

I have heard nothing..

I say what I do about Lucas because he was a pretty good world builder (even though I thought he went overboard with the PT) The planets felt lifeless and not lived in... Something Lucas excelled at. I also loved little moments like the Sand People firing on the Pod Race... Small moments like that that nailed the character perfectly and gave his universe life... The new film was missing that IMO..

I have heard nothing about Lucas script leaks... It would be interesting to see / read... But like I said... It should only be a little Lucas.. Not a lot. :)
 
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