Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

 

[bonestockbrz]

I tried watching a new hope last night, fell asleep . That was my second attempt watching it . I can't watch any of the movies . They aren't my thing and I have hardcore friends who have tried to get me to watch them and I sinply fall asleep

The force awakens, I'm on my third screening already . I think if you have some idea of what's going on you'll love it . I've never been a Star Wars fan so I'm fortunate watching the force awakens .

 

[EVILFACE]

Fell asleep? It the same movie as TFA.

 

[lttgtimaatisgdaicfi]

I think many of the people who have a problem with TFA are those who don't realise that the magic of a childhood movie experience can't possibly be replicated as an adult.

I would've liked to see a bit more risk-taking from Abrams, but when I consider all the people he's having to please I think he's delivered a very good result.

I was hoping to see a very good movie with NEW & ORIGINAL ideas. Was that really too much to ask? This whole "Abrams took the safe route" thing makes no sense to me. If what he did impresses people then people just plain ol' suck. We have too many people that walk into theaters and eat up whatever hollywood gives them. And you don't have to overanalyze TFA to see it's faults. Another ****ing death star?? I rolled my eyes when they did that again in ROTJ! [url=https://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html] [/URL]

 

[Asta]

Abrams succeeded in directing a better Star Wars film than 75% of the Star Wars films directed by Lucas.



The first 'classic' Star Wars film since 1983.

 

[Asta]

I was hoping to see a very good movie with NEW & ORIGINAL ideas. Was that really too much to ask? This whole "Abrams took the safe route" thing makes no sense to me. If what he did impresses people then people just plain ol' suck. We have too many people that walk into theaters and eat up whatever hollywood gives them. And you don't have to overanalyze TFA to see it's faults. Another ****ing death star?? I rolled my eyes when they did that again in ROTJ!

Technically Lucas didn't do it twice.

He blew his load too soon in 1977 and condensed the story, because he wasn't sure the film would be successful enough to have sequels to tell the extended story.

Because Star Wars was successful he had to get the Death Star back for the finale.

He just destroyed the same one twice.

As for 'another Death Star', this one was new and improved. There's always going to be a super weapon if there's an evil empire striving to take over.

 

[Prime Clone]

I've come to an odd place with movies. I leave a theater often now and don't know if I really liked a movie or not.

I am this way with some movies.

Me three. I didn't know if I liked TFA after the first viewing, then I came on here and the criticism started to sway me. Then I saw it a second time and loved it. The ending even moved me more second time round.

I think when it comes to Star Wars I overanalyze...

 

[EVILFACE]

Abrams succeeded in directing a better Star Wars film than 75% of the Star Wars films directed by Lucas.



The first 'classic' Star Wars film since 1983.

But it wasn't any better than the other Star Wars flicks.

 

[Asta]

But it wasn't any better than the other Star Wars flicks.

No Star Wars film can be better than the OT, because without the OT none of it would exist.

It's hard for any Star Wars film to be worse than the PT. Like Vader, there is good in them, but they're more machine than Star Wars.

Hence TFA sits in fourth place.

 

[Prime Clone]

I put TFA, ROTJ and ROTS in roughly the same league, with ROTS trending toward the bottom.

 

[EVILFACE]

No Star Wars film can be better than the Lucas, because without the Lucas none of it would exist.

Fixed.

 

[Asta]

No Star Wars film can be better than Flash Gordon, because without Flash Gordon none of it would exist.

Re-fixed.

 

[jye4ever]

I've been pretty hard on this movie but something about it makes me want to revisit it.

Weird this movie is.

 

[aljf]

I thought is was good not great, The hole Solo death p***d me off to no end did nothing for the story just Ford getting his way. Chewie not taking Ben out and Han letting the Falcon go and looking for it for years was just stupid He loved the Falcon he would never let her go

 

[jye4ever]

The falcon changing hands is a continuation of Han losing it to Lando due to his smuggling ways.

Kasdan is now reminding everyone that Han wasn't just a hot shot greedy smuggler before meeting Luke in the cantina, he was a down on his luck bumbling smuggler who always made rash decisions that quickly lead to him being hunted or losing property.

Remember the Han had to dump his cargo story in the OT?

That is unless you want to subscribe to the idea that Han was keeping an eye on Rey all along and he left the MF on Jakku on purpose.

Luke/Palpatine/Maul/Solo, all recipients of the fall down a shaft award.

 

[jye4ever]

I'm really starting to think that it was a missed opportunity that they didn't use the pirates attacking the MF as a way to give Han and Chewie their one big heroic introduction action scene.

Instead a stupid looking poorly executed cgi monster was made to be the hero/savior when it should've been Han and Chewie showing the kids (Rey/Finn) how its done.

The "Chewie, we're home" line would've been followed up with watching Han and Chewie show what they're made of.

That would've been the proper introduction for them!

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I'm really starting to think that it was a missed opportunity that they didn't use the pirates attacking the MF as a way to give Han and Chewie their one big heroic introduction action scene.

Instead a stupid looking poorly executed cgi monster was made to be the hero/savior when it should've been Han and Chewie showing the kids (Rey/Finn) how its done.

The "Chewie, we're home" line would've been followed up with watching Han and Chewie show what they're made of.

That would've been the proper introduction for them!

I bet Rey could have beaten all the pirates and the space monster by herself with a single punch.

 

[Victοr]

I bet Rey could have beaten all the pirates and the space monster by herself with a single punch.

While solving the "P versus NP" problem... I didn't hate Rey, but I didn't love her either. I mean, she was:

1) A great Pilot: Okay, I buy that.

2) A great fighter: Okay, I guess she somehow needed to stay alive amongst space pirates, so that kinda makes sense as well.

3) A brilliant engineer: Uh, okay...

4) And a super-powerful Force user: Okay, now you're just ****ing with me...

Too many talents rolled up into one person in the span of one movie. The scenes were she solves Han's problems and the part where she gets the Falcon were some of the worst in the film for me (the other being the aftermath of Han's death).

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

While solving the "P versus NP" problem... I didn't hate Rey, but I didn't love her either. I mean, she was:

1) A great Pilot: Okay, I buy that.

If she's a Skywalker, it kind of makes sense, because both Luke and Anakin were good pilots, but still, she just took a ship she had never flown, and not only did she know how to fix it, she could fly it perfectly. Not to mention, it was never established she was a good pilot, unlike with Luke and Anakin. It's like they wrote themselves in a corner with that one, because in the beginning of the film they established that Finn doesn't know how to fly and that's why he helps Poe, because he needed a pilot. So by the time Rey and Finn are escaping that planet, there are only two characters, and Finn can't fly, so Rey by default, had to do it

I would have changed that by not having Poe go missing...why? What's the point of him disappearing? It's not like when he finally shows up again it's a big surprise moment. Poe, Finn, and Rey should have escaped together with Poe flying the Falcon. He can go missing during the whole Alien scene....or he escapes in the pirate ship and we don't see him again until he comes to the rescue. Simple.

In fact, that's even better, because Poe getting taken by the alien really sells the idea that he might really be dead, making his come back later on more memorable, unlike him disappearing after the crash. We knew he wasn't dead.

 

[Victοr]

If she's a Skywalker, it kind of makes sense, because both Luke and Anakin were good pilots, but still, she just took a ship she had never flown, and not only did she know how to fix it, she could fly it better than Han. Not to mention, it was never established she was a good pilot, unlike with Luke and Anakin. It's like they wrote themselves in a corner with that one, because in the beginning of the film they established that Finn doesn't know how to fly and that's why he helps Poe, because he needed a pilot. So by the time Rey and Finn are escaping, there are only two characters, and Finn can't fly, so Rey had to do it, almost by default.

I would have changed that by not having Poe go missing...why? What's the point of him disappearing? It's not like when he finally shows up again it's a big surprise moment. Poe, Finn,and Finn should have escaped together with Poe flying the Falcon. He can go missing during the whole Alien scene....or he escapes in the pirate ship and we don't see him again until he comes to the rescue. Simple.

Yeah, it makes sense if she's a Skywalker but still, too many talents thrown into a mixer. Luke was a good pilot, but he wasn't an excellent fighter at the beginning. He also wasn't an engineering prodigy, making folks with years of experience (Han) look like amateurs. If she just knew how to fly then great. But then she had to go in and operate the Falcon almost better than Han. Please, give a break...

That as well. The Poe thing was weird. He shows up, goes missing and then... Shows up again. I do remember his explaination, but it was just a missed oportunity for me. Had it been Poe/Finn/Rey with Poe flying, Finn and shooting and Rey doing the engineering stuff, then I'd have no problem with it. But, as it stands, Rey is a "perfect" character at the start of the ST. I dread to think what she'll be able to do by Ep. 9...