"How could Rey have resisted Kylo??? That would require like three natural 20's on her mind probe saving throw!"
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)
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The guys arguing that Rey got too Forcey too fast are also the same guys who believe that Superman vs Batman is a real contest.
The guys arguing that Rey got too Forcey too fast are also the same guys who believe that Superman vs Batman is a real contest.
There is that......
"How could Rey have resisted Kylo??? That would require like three natural 20's on her mind probe saving throw!"
Eh, truth be told that didn't bother as much. She was powerful and he wasn't completely trained, plus he was also messed up emotionally. Really, the Force stuff didn't bother me. She's the new Jedi, so it makes sense to have her do some Force Tricks. It's combination of great pilot/engineer/fighter/Jefi that left a sour taste in my mouth. I still liked her character mind you, I just think she could've been handled better. Really, one thing that TFA got absolutely right were the characters. Finn, Rey, Poe, Kylo, all great.
The guys arguing that Rey got too Forcey too fast are also the same guys who believe that Superman vs Batman is a real contest.
Bu-but prep... An-and Daleks in his closet... A-and Justice League Bots... An-and Insider Suit...
At a family christmas party right now, I just asked three 15 year old boys if they went to see TFA.
All 3 gave the same answer, not interested.
Then they went right back to their texting.
Yeah, my son won't be hanging out with them.
See, that's exactly what I heard too from a good friend with a fifteen year old son.
The audience age group that really helped define the original Star Wars and changed what target audience Hollywood would make movies for for decades may not necessarily be the same target audience now. Seems like everyone BUT 15-19 year old boys likes this movie.
cmiller99
Super Freak
Star Wars is too kiddy for that age group now with all the emphasis on toys. Supposedly. Or something.
The Clown Prince of Crime
Super Freak
The guys arguing that Rey got too Forcey too fast are also the same guys who believe that Superman vs Batman is a real contest.
With the Critics Choice Awards accepting TFA as a nominee even though its screening was past the official deadline I couldn't help but wonder:
Imagine George Lucas selling the franchise for $4 billion to Disney, thinking "suckers, heh heh," and then they go out and the very first movie they make wins Best Picture AND earns all the money back in one fell swoop.
Imagine George Lucas selling the franchise for $4 billion to Disney, thinking "suckers, heh heh," and then they go out and the very first movie they make wins Best Picture AND earns all the money back in one fell swoop.
With the Critics Choice Awards accepting TFA as a nominee even though its screening was past the official deadline I couldn't help but wonder:
Imagine George Lucas selling the franchise for $4 billion to Disney, thinking "suckers, heh heh," and then they go out and the very first movie they make wins Best Picture AND earns all the money back in one fell swoop.
OR imagine this is as good as the new ST trilogy will ever be in terms of excitement, anticipation and hype. Teens don't connect. No one really buys the merchandise. And the next two films just come and go like "Ant Man".
jye4ever
Broke and happy
I think technology has shifted many habits.
Videogames are HUGE right now, Pewdiepie has 10 billion YT views for a reason.
With the Critics Choice Awards accepting TFA as a nominee even though its screening was past the official deadline I couldn't help but wonder:
Imagine George Lucas selling the franchise for $4 billion to Disney, thinking "suckers, heh heh," and then they go out and the very first movie they make wins Best Picture AND earns all the money back in one fell swoop.
I have a feeling GL is making more money off the success from this movie.
jye4ever
Broke and happy
Eventually this will definately happen, but only after E9 me thinks.
Honestly was there much fanfare for AOTC or ROTS? I really don't remember too much excitement. More like something that just had to be done. "Well, as long as its better than the last." we all kept saying.
cmiller99
Super Freak
If Episode 8 is good, I can see the hype continuing to nine. But people are going to get sick of the spinoff films really, really fast.
That's what I mean. Disney is worse than Lucas in terms of marketing and "spin-offs", as we all already know. I'm going to be so sick of Star Wars by this summer, I guarantee it. Too much of a good thing. Like eating too many sour bears in one sitting.
How good can "Rogue One" really be? And if you like that, then you'll love "Rogue Two" on Disney Kids.... and "Rogue Three" on Tween-Disney... and "Rogue Squared" on D2.
The Clown Prince of Crime
Super Freak
During that time the LOTR films and Harry Potter made more money than SW. Even Shrek beat SW.
cmiller99
Super Freak
I think the spinoff films will have a chance of being good but like you said, it's going to get old really really fast. There's only going to be two spinoffs between 7-8-9 though, so hopefully the effects will be delayed a bit.
We've never really seen a trilogy "go the distance" before. There's really just LOTR but that series was unusual in that ROTK was fully filmed (minus some pickups) before FOTR was even released so it just had that pervasive thread of consistent quality throughout. If we already knew that Abrams had written AND shot Episode VIII and IX then I think that we might well be poised to get a second LOTR.
I'm very excited to see where the story goes but there's no WAY I'll be able to anticipate Episode VIII and IX the way I did TFA. There was just something about waiting for those first moments that Han, then Leia, then Luke appeared. It'll be great to see more of Luke in the next one (and obviously to hear him actually speak) and to follow the continuing adventures of Rey, Finn, and Poe but man, TFA is something else. After how Han's arc played out it's hard to imagine the drama being heightened going forward. Killing Luke or Leia will just be a lesser version of what happened to Han (and not very surprising at this point.) Will Kylo stay evil and be defeated? Be redeemed and go out in a blaze of glory? Somehow turn good and carry the shame of his actions? Whatever it is I don't see how it can top the death of Han Solo followed by Chewie freaking obliterating Stormtroopers while howling in agony, Rey catching that saber in midair, Leia quietly grieving back at the base, Chewie watching Rey fire up the engines of the Falcon with a quiet look that hints at respect...or pride, and then the reveal of Luke freaking Skywalker.
Luke can die sure, and I can see that being very emotional, but really, you kind of expect it. He's the "Old Ben" Jedi character so if he lives or dies it just won't have the same impact of what happened to Han. We'll see. I could be totally, TOTALLY wrong and the next two episodes just somehow blow me away even more but honestly that's pretty hard to imagine.
I'm very excited to see where the story goes but there's no WAY I'll be able to anticipate Episode VIII and IX the way I did TFA. There was just something about waiting for those first moments that Han, then Leia, then Luke appeared. It'll be great to see more of Luke in the next one (and obviously to hear him actually speak) and to follow the continuing adventures of Rey, Finn, and Poe but man, TFA is something else. After how Han's arc played out it's hard to imagine the drama being heightened going forward. Killing Luke or Leia will just be a lesser version of what happened to Han (and not very surprising at this point.) Will Kylo stay evil and be defeated? Be redeemed and go out in a blaze of glory? Somehow turn good and carry the shame of his actions? Whatever it is I don't see how it can top the death of Han Solo followed by Chewie freaking obliterating Stormtroopers while howling in agony, Rey catching that saber in midair, Leia quietly grieving back at the base, Chewie watching Rey fire up the engines of the Falcon with a quiet look that hints at respect...or pride, and then the reveal of Luke freaking Skywalker.
Luke can die sure, and I can see that being very emotional, but really, you kind of expect it. He's the "Old Ben" Jedi character so if he lives or dies it just won't have the same impact of what happened to Han. We'll see. I could be totally, TOTALLY wrong and the next two episodes just somehow blow me away even more but honestly that's pretty hard to imagine.
Don't forget "Black One" detailing Poe's crazy adventures he went on between Jakku and Takonada.
My kids loved it, as did all their friends.... ages 10-14.
Even my wife liked it...she wants to see it again, and that is saying alot, for her.
