Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[Gully Foyle]

Had an interesting discussion with a friend who is older and a much bigger Star Wars fan than I . . .

He made the observation that the depiction of force powers in the new film follows what he called the "Millennial Trend" of current films where the young hero/protagonist assumes powers instantaneously and without struggle.

He (only half-jokingly) said: "Kids today don't want to put in the study, time, or work to achieve anything. They expect an instant downloadable app to take them from novice to expert.
Just look at Kirk from Nu-Trek: the punk fails upwards at everything. It's a complete inversion of the pupil/mentor dynamic.
I'd chalk it up to simple childhood wish fulfillment, but these are adults in their late teens and twenties."

The more I reflect, the more I see his point.






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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Had an interesting discussion with a friend who is older and a much bigger Star Wars fan than I . . .

He made the observation that the depiction of force powers in the new film follows what he called the "Millennial Trend" of current films where the young hero/protagonist assumes powers instantaneously and without struggle.

He (only half-jokingly) said: "Kids today don't want to put in the study, time, or work to achieve anything. They expect an instant downloadable app to take them from novice to expert.
Just look at Kirk from Nu-Trek: the punk fails upwards at everything. It's a complete inversion of the pupil/mentor dynamic.
I'd chalk it up to simple childhood wish fulfillment, but these are adults in their late teens and twenties."

The more I reflect, the more I see his point.

There's some truth to that. That's a really good observation.

 

[Wor-Gar]

That's an amazing observation. It does fit with everything that's being talked about and the general concerns of this particular generation.

Frightening how culture seeps into movies...even when those movies are made by the older generation that should know better.

Someone needs to write their thesis on this topic. Kylo also reflects the millennials.

 

[Prime Clone]

A Moment with George Lucas's Directing Method...





Get me that glass of water over by that truck. Hurry, I'm timing you.

Faster! More intense!

 

[WWEJedi]

I didn't buy a single figure from the PT, just two lightsabers, and the Taco Bell R2D2 and Yoda "collectible" cups. Those are pretty cool.

I.... I bought a lot....

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I.... I bought a lot....

That's pretty cool. There's a difference between buying figures as an investment, and buying them because you like the films or the toy line. Not too long ago, I bought the entire Mattel Flinstones movie toy line because I always liked the line and the movie. I liked some of PT toys and sets, also the early 2000's LOTR toys, but I stayed away from it all. I bought some Spiderman and X Men 2 movie figures, instead. I bought a black series 6' inch Darth Maul when it came out. That's the only PT figure I own.

 

[Gully Foyle]

Frightening how culture seeps into movies...even when those movies are made by the older generation that should know better.

Film is a mirror of the society that produces it.

Each movie is a time-capsule of the culture that created it.

Everything from atomic H-bomb fears spawning Godzilla to 80s action stars solving every problem with guns & ammo . . .

Someone needs to write their thesis on this topic.

My discussion with my friend has prompted me to begin drafting an essay.
Now I just gotta keep fanning that spark . . .

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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Film is a mirror of the society that produces it.

Each movie is a time-capsule of the culture that created it.

Everything from atomic H-bomb fears spawning Godzilla to 80s action stars solving every problem with guns & ammo . . .

...and explosive arrows

Ahh...my kind of heroes, how I miss them.

 

[RIDDICK]

Had an interesting discussion with a friend who is older and a much bigger Star Wars fan than I . . .

He made the observation that the depiction of force powers in the new film follows what he called the "Millennial Trend" of current films where the young hero/protagonist assumes powers instantaneously and without struggle.

He (only half-jokingly) said: "Kids today don't want to put in the study, time, or work to achieve anything. They expect an instant downloadable app to take them from novice to expert.
Just look at Kirk from Nu-Trek: the punk fails upwards at everything. It's a complete inversion of the pupil/mentor dynamic.
I'd chalk it up to simple childhood wish fulfillment, but these are adults in their late teens and twenties."

 

[jye4ever]

Didn't buy a single one. Just couldn't get past the "He-Man" body types after having most of the originals. I guess I was an elitist even before the SE's. Regarding the SE's though, the thing that frustrated me the most about them, okay two things: 1. That George never released the originals again and 2. I was really into the principle of them! After Jurassic Park it blew my mind that we were going to see "Star Wars" with THOSE kinds of effects replacing the ones from the 70's. I had total faith in Lucas and assumed that SW was going to get better in every way. But then for every "enhancement" they screwed something else up, turned them into total mixed bags, and if they were going to be mixed bags then I might as well just go back to the originals because at least everything was consistent throughout.

Yeah, but those SE trailers are freaking masterpieces!

 

[DiFabio]

I'm reading old messages from google groups from the internet's infancy back in December 1983, this one is gold.

 

[jye4ever]

Why are we up.

I'm really digging the whole Rey awakening/visions from touching the lightsaber.

It brings the force back to it flowing thru everything, rocks, trees blah blah blah.

Midichlorian blood work need not apply in TFA.

The force is ever present waiting for that special person to become in tune with it.

True that awakenings/visions by touching lightsabers weren't explicitly shown in OT/PT, but Luke did have his own visions from entering a physical cave.

Look at the lightsaber more as a tuning fork instead of a miraculous conception.

 

[RIDDICK]

The force is ever present waiting for that special person to become in tune with it.

That's bull**** even by OT standarts.
The Force is just an energy field - it's not alive nor sentient.

 

[Gully Foyle]

Wonder if they'll fit in a bit of Hawkwind.

!

RIP Lemmy . . .

 

[DiFabio]

I'm really digging the whole Rey awakening/visions from touching the lightsaber.

It brings the force back to it flowing thru everything, rocks, trees blah blah blah.

Midichlorian blood work need not apply in TFA.

The force is ever present waiting for that special person to become in tune with it.

True that awakenings/visions by touching lightsabers weren't explicitly shown in OT/PT, but Luke did have his own visions from entering a physical cave.

Look at the lightsaber more as a tuning fork instead of a miraculous conception.

THAT'S NOT HOW THE FORCE WORKS! jye

 

[Asta]

!

RIP Lemmy . . .

That was a shocker. I only just found out.

Lemmy a quid no more.

 

[Asta]

That's bull**** even by OT standarts.
The Force is just an energy field - it's not alive nor sentient.

The Force is nanobots. They're everywhere and they feed on socks in your sock drawer, but eat only one from each pair.

It's true. All of it.

 

[jkno]

 

[jye4ever]

THAT'S NOT HOW THE FORCE WORKS! jye

Ohhhhh, maxi big da Force. Well dat smells stinkowiff.

 

[KitFisto]

Ohhhhh, maxi big da Force. Well dat smells stinkowiff.