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Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)
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jye4ever
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morph, what the heck.
Wor made a pretty good SW joke, tasteless...well sure...but still good.
TFA copied the OT, so it was a relevant joke.
Yeah the first 7 words got me to pucker up my starfish, but by the end of his sentence I was laughing because I fell for it.
Now inhale slowly, exhale.
Wor made a pretty good SW joke, tasteless...well sure...but still good.
TFA copied the OT, so it was a relevant joke.
Yeah the first 7 words got me to pucker up my starfish, but by the end of his sentence I was laughing because I fell for it.
Now inhale slowly, exhale.
Same here; at first I was "WHAT?!?
" then I read on and realized what the cheeky monkey did. morph, what the heck.
Wor made a pretty good SW joke, tasteless...well sure...but still good.
TFA copied the OT, so it was a good joke.
Yeah the first 7 words got me to pucker up my starfish, but by the end of his sentence I was laughing.
Hey jye........double dog dare ya to google pucker up starfish.
There's always that one that doesn't get the parallel.
Got to know your Star Wars history in the Star Wars thread, in movie and out.
Got to know your Star Wars history in the Star Wars thread, in movie and out.
Same here; at first I was "WHAT?!?
Cheeky monkey bastards!
Orson Wells did it too.
jye4ever
Broke and happy
Darth Madden
You Are A Tooooooy!!!
Had me for a second then I read "red corvette" and I got it. 
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread
I watched the Rose/Lucas interview. Pretty silly of Lucas to puff himself up for not making Star Wars too "retro" by reusing previous planets, ships...or Death Stars. Carrying on like he has never made a movie like that. And people listening to him and saying, "yeah, he's right!" So silly. I guess he simply forgot that he made Return of the Jedi. The film that ended his relationship with Gary Kurtz because it was "too derivative."
TFA is getting a bad wrap for being a "remake of ANH." It really isn't. People are just being melodramatic because important information was hidden in BB-8 and then he ran off on a desert planet. THAT was all ANH, no question. Pretty much everything else is just TFA being "a Star Wars movie."
When I go see a new SW movie for the first time I look forward to seeing:
1. A hero stand strong against overwhelming odds
2. Some new hodge-podge of freaky looking aliens
3. A big battle featuring flying ships, typically with one side trying to destroy the other's "base."
4. A cool lightsaber duel
And literally all four of those elements were in ANH, ESB, and ROTJ. *Any* new SW movie that features them isn't "remaking" one of those movies, it's simply being Star Wars.
Now there are additional things that can be re-used without being derivative (someone saying "I have a bad feeling about this") and then there are things that are just way too specific (Han randomly copying 3PO's "delusions of grandeur" saying.) And those moments are kind of eyebrow raising. BB-8 carrying the crucial data definitely falls in the latter. Any SW movie having a "So and so is related to so and so, dun dun dunn!" moment would be the former however.
When you get down to it Abrams and Kasdan just made a super Star Wars-y Star Wars movie. It has elements of ANH, ESB, and ROTJ, but very little of those elements actually play out the way they did in the prior films. Yeah, the bad guy's base blows up at the end. But Han and Kylo's relationship is very different than that of Luke and Vader, Han's death was very different than Old Ben's, Rey's time on Jakku VERY different than Luke's time on Tatooine, the attack on the desert village was very different than the Stormtroopers raiding the Blockade Runner, the crazy critters in Maz' bar; all different than the Cantina, Executor Bridge bounty hunters, and Jabba's palace.
Yes, the film constantly reminded you that you were watching an episode of Star Wars. Thank God. It's about time a movie in the series actually felt like it was in the series. But it tried new things too. The whole "1986 version of Star Wars" is new, for one. The battle on Han's freighter is unlike anything in any previous SW film, and coincidentally gets the most cries of "these guys and creatures wandered in from another movie!" Well, yeah. When you introduce brand new things they're going to feel...not familiar.
But I know people are going to see what they want to see, ignoring things that are right in front of their faces if it negates whatever criticism they want to give voice to. For me Star Wars returned, I got to see that bittersweet, poignant SW film that Kurtz and Ford wanted to make, and I'm prepared for this to be "it." Since it's really looking like Hayden Christensen will be back for Ep 8 and 9 I just don't see how those films won't be tainted on some level with him involved. But hey, I'm totally open to the possibility of being proven wrong and having an entire new trilogy of Star Wars be awesome again.
I watched the Rose/Lucas interview. Pretty silly of Lucas to puff himself up for not making Star Wars too "retro" by reusing previous planets, ships...or Death Stars. Carrying on like he has never made a movie like that. And people listening to him and saying, "yeah, he's right!" So silly. I guess he simply forgot that he made Return of the Jedi. The film that ended his relationship with Gary Kurtz because it was "too derivative."
“We had an outline and George changed everything in it,” Kurtz said. “Instead of bittersweet and poignant he wanted a euphoric ending with everybody happy. The original idea was that they would recover [the kidnapped] Han Solo in the early part of the story and that he would then die in the middle part of the film in a raid on an Imperial base. George then decided he didn’t want any of the principals killed. By that time there were really big toy sales and that was a reason.”
The discussed ending of the film that Kurtz favored presented the rebel forces in tatters, Leia grappling with her new duties as queen and Luke walking off alone “like Clint Eastwood in the spaghetti westerns,” as Kurtz put it.
Kurtz said that ending would have been a more emotionally nuanced finale to an epic adventure than the forest celebration of the Ewoks that essentially ended the trilogy with a teddy bear luau.
He was especially disdainful of the Lucas idea of a second Death Star, which he felt would be too derivative of the 1977 film. “So we agreed that I should probably leave.”
Did ‘Star Wars’ become a toy story? Producer Gary Kurtz looks back [Updated] | Hero Complex – movies, comics, pop culture – Los Angeles Times
The discussed ending of the film that Kurtz favored presented the rebel forces in tatters, Leia grappling with her new duties as queen and Luke walking off alone “like Clint Eastwood in the spaghetti westerns,” as Kurtz put it.
Kurtz said that ending would have been a more emotionally nuanced finale to an epic adventure than the forest celebration of the Ewoks that essentially ended the trilogy with a teddy bear luau.
He was especially disdainful of the Lucas idea of a second Death Star, which he felt would be too derivative of the 1977 film. “So we agreed that I should probably leave.”
Did ‘Star Wars’ become a toy story? Producer Gary Kurtz looks back [Updated] | Hero Complex – movies, comics, pop culture – Los Angeles Times
TFA is getting a bad wrap for being a "remake of ANH." It really isn't. People are just being melodramatic because important information was hidden in BB-8 and then he ran off on a desert planet. THAT was all ANH, no question. Pretty much everything else is just TFA being "a Star Wars movie."
When I go see a new SW movie for the first time I look forward to seeing:
1. A hero stand strong against overwhelming odds
2. Some new hodge-podge of freaky looking aliens
3. A big battle featuring flying ships, typically with one side trying to destroy the other's "base."
4. A cool lightsaber duel
And literally all four of those elements were in ANH, ESB, and ROTJ. *Any* new SW movie that features them isn't "remaking" one of those movies, it's simply being Star Wars.
Now there are additional things that can be re-used without being derivative (someone saying "I have a bad feeling about this") and then there are things that are just way too specific (Han randomly copying 3PO's "delusions of grandeur" saying.) And those moments are kind of eyebrow raising. BB-8 carrying the crucial data definitely falls in the latter. Any SW movie having a "So and so is related to so and so, dun dun dunn!" moment would be the former however.
When you get down to it Abrams and Kasdan just made a super Star Wars-y Star Wars movie. It has elements of ANH, ESB, and ROTJ, but very little of those elements actually play out the way they did in the prior films. Yeah, the bad guy's base blows up at the end. But Han and Kylo's relationship is very different than that of Luke and Vader, Han's death was very different than Old Ben's, Rey's time on Jakku VERY different than Luke's time on Tatooine, the attack on the desert village was very different than the Stormtroopers raiding the Blockade Runner, the crazy critters in Maz' bar; all different than the Cantina, Executor Bridge bounty hunters, and Jabba's palace.
Yes, the film constantly reminded you that you were watching an episode of Star Wars. Thank God. It's about time a movie in the series actually felt like it was in the series. But it tried new things too. The whole "1986 version of Star Wars" is new, for one. The battle on Han's freighter is unlike anything in any previous SW film, and coincidentally gets the most cries of "these guys and creatures wandered in from another movie!" Well, yeah. When you introduce brand new things they're going to feel...not familiar.
But I know people are going to see what they want to see, ignoring things that are right in front of their faces if it negates whatever criticism they want to give voice to. For me Star Wars returned, I got to see that bittersweet, poignant SW film that Kurtz and Ford wanted to make, and I'm prepared for this to be "it." Since it's really looking like Hayden Christensen will be back for Ep 8 and 9 I just don't see how those films won't be tainted on some level with him involved. But hey, I'm totally open to the possibility of being proven wrong and having an entire new trilogy of Star Wars be awesome again.
The Clown Prince of Crime
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread
You're right, TFA recycles the whole original trilogy... and even some things from the prequels in one film.
You're right, TFA recycles the whole original trilogy... and even some things from the prequels in one film.
TFA was a palette cleanser whose primary mission was to introduce new characters. If you had expectations beyond that, it's your own fault. The only thing truly recycled in here are the postings by the same two people evangelizing their opinions over and over and over.
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yes they did an amazing job!!!
btw thx for backing me a little before. i didnt find the hamill car accident joke funny at all. car accidents are not funny. referencing old accidents where someone gets hurt or worse to make jokes is bad taste imo.
plus the corvette reference has nothing to do with the accident. he was driving a bmw. 'corvette summer' was just the name of a movie he was doing but people think it was the car he crashed in. and most think this accident happened right before filming ESB. but that was not really the case the accident happened in 1977. the wampa scene has been misunderstood. the scars we saw was makeup they put to match where his old scars were that healed. it wasnt because his face was disfigured from the crash.
fans exaggerated it and the story kept changing over the years as fans misread things.
