I liked goofy everyman Finn. Made for a fun movie. For hardcore badasses I'll always have Rogue One.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)
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Cassian's character would make a better 'Finn'.
jye4ever
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You two beat me to it.
Finn's anti hero edge was there, it was his self preservation.
Remember, he was ditching the resistance at Maz's castle, screw them was his message.
Once back he then lied to the resistance, said he knew how to shut off the Starkiller shields even though he didn't.
He was loyal to Rey because she had helped him on Jakku but he was ready to move on. Only when he saw her being taken by Kylo unconscious did he decide to rescue her.
Finn killing First Order Nazi is silly why? He had a problem with killing innocents, not people who enslaved him.
I like to juxtapose Finn to Cassian, a Rebel soldier who murders innocent people to Finn a First Order soldier who refuses to kill innocent people.
Damn, I just did a Khev lol.
Finn's anti hero edge was there, it was his self preservation.
Remember, he was ditching the resistance at Maz's castle, screw them was his message.
Once back he then lied to the resistance, said he knew how to shut off the Starkiller shields even though he didn't.
He was loyal to Rey because she had helped him on Jakku but he was ready to move on. Only when he saw her being taken by Kylo unconscious did he decide to rescue her.
Finn killing First Order Nazi is silly why? He had a problem with killing innocents, not people who enslaved him.
I like to juxtapose Finn to Cassian, a Rebel soldier who murders innocent people to Finn a First Order soldier who refuses to kill innocent people.
Damn, I just did a Khev lol.
The thing is though, with a superweapon that can wipe out multiple planets with one shot, much more is at stake than there was in RO...technically TFA should have been anything but fun.
jye4ever
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Well if you payed attention to the opening crawl you would've learned that the First Order tricked the Republic into thinking that Starkiller base was just a mobile energy producing facility after Bespin had run dry of Tibanna gas and that the Republic was not taking the resistance seriously because they thought General Leia just had an axe to grind over the Republic's decision to not give the Ewok's a voting senate seat.
There's room there for some goofy fun.
There's room there for some goofy fun.
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It sure didn't feel that way did it?
RO: The Death Star blows up one city and freaks the Alliance out so much half of them want to quit and go home.
TFA: Starkiller annihilates an entire solar system prompting Han to casually ask "so how do we blow it up" and then minutes later everyone cheerfully mans their ships to attack it.
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I love the concept of a stormtrooper gone AWOL... but after Finn removed the outfit I never again thought about where he came from. He could have been any coward from anywhere.
I would have liked to see some training leak through somewhere -- when shooting, when fighting, anything. But he always seemed so... clumsy.
Its the lack of character in Finn that causes me to have no interest in him. Things come too difficult for him... and things come too easily for her... but that's another debate.
Maybe Finn should have been Rey! Maybe a stormtrooper gets the 'calling'. Maybe Rey was taken at a young age and raised as a stormtrooper. But she doesn't have the heart for it. Sees Poe as her escape. Now I can buy why she has strength and skills. Of course, then we wouldn't have the Tatooine callbacks that you apparently need to greenlight a Star Wars movie.
I would have liked to see some training leak through somewhere -- when shooting, when fighting, anything. But he always seemed so... clumsy.
Its the lack of character in Finn that causes me to have no interest in him. Things come too difficult for him... and things come too easily for her... but that's another debate.
Maybe Finn should have been Rey! Maybe a stormtrooper gets the 'calling'. Maybe Rey was taken at a young age and raised as a stormtrooper. But she doesn't have the heart for it. Sees Poe as her escape. Now I can buy why she has strength and skills. Of course, then we wouldn't have the Tatooine callbacks that you apparently need to greenlight a Star Wars movie.
I literally thought that's what all the trailers were suggesting. That the Force awoke in him, leading him to forsake the Dark Side, abandon his post, and take up a lightsaber.
It would have made more sense in some ways, probably cause issues in others... like why wouldn't Luke rescue his daughter from the First Order training camp?
Anyway, it is what it is. Take from it what you like. I just hope 8 is more original and thus more memorable.
Anyway, it is what it is. Take from it what you like. I just hope 8 is more original and thus more memorable.
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Hmm. He was also a coward, and while he didn't step on any poo do, he did drink out of the same trough as a pig alien creature thing.
I think I know where you were going with that.
"You abandoned the First Order because you were clumsy?"
"Mm hmm. Yousa soona be sayin' dat."
"Mm hmm. Yousa soona be sayin' dat."
Pee-you-sa
jye4ever
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But maybe we'll learn in E8 that it was Snoke that allowed Finn to defect in the first place so that he could infiltrate the resistance with his bumbling antics.
You boys need to think outside the box more.
Finn is a sith you knuckleheads.
For all of you who hate Rey how do you reconcile your love for superheroes? Batman can do way more than her and has a billion dollars and a butler from the get go. Rey lived alone and had to make her equipment out of stuff she found, not inherited.
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Batman gets his ass kicked in all the movies, doesn't have any friends and can't hold a steady relationship. He broods and is overall a sad bro. Batman has had years of training and still ruins every one of his vehicles, especially Batwings. ****ing Rey knows how to pilot and repair the Falcon from the get go.
He ain't no Mary Sue. Apples and oranges.
Rey could probably be a better Batman than Batman.
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Batman is the ultimate Mary Sue. He defeated Superman, held his own against Doomsday, has lots of (super) friends (plus Alfred). As far as romantic relationships Rey has none. She's assumedly a virgin, he definitely isn't. Rey ain't got nothin' on Bruce.
