Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)
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jye4ever
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Opening night TFA I was making my own sounds.....
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Prime Clone
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EVILFACE
Insufferable S.O.B.
That is a pretty good conclusion. I've personally never really cared all that much for any of the Star Wars flicks. They are entertaining movies. To me they pale in comparison to movies like Die Hard, Aliens, Road Warrior, Evil Dead, Lost Boys ect. But what I like about them are the characters and mythology. The OT and PT gave me those. TFA not so much. RO not at all.
I agree with Wor-Gar there, as well. But I do think this was a very clear strategy, and it worked out very, very well for them. So, we'll see more of that moving forward. Now I do see the new Star Wars movies, and the Marvel Studios stuff, as well, as entertaining, but not worthy of a great deal of analysis or re-watching.
Comparing Lost Boys favorably to the original trilogy, though? Well, it did have this:
Comparing Lost Boys favorably to the original trilogy, though? Well, it did have this:
One challenge they have with the sequel trilogy due to just resurrecting the Empire and giving them all the same players (Sith-type hologram overlord, fallen Jedi field general, Death Star type weapon, Star Destroyers and TIE Fighters, etc.) is that we've already seen how such an enemy could be defeated in ROTJ. So there isn't any real sense of "oh my gosh what can the heroes possibly due against such overwhelming odds?? I *must* see the next chapter!!"
I'm sure audiences are more or less expecting Luke and Rey to have a showdown with Snoke and Kylo and that by defeating them the remaining armies will scatter just like we saw more than 30 years ago. Hopefully they'll find a way to introduce some nice twists and turns to throw some expectations askew.
I'm sure audiences are more or less expecting Luke and Rey to have a showdown with Snoke and Kylo and that by defeating them the remaining armies will scatter just like we saw more than 30 years ago. Hopefully they'll find a way to introduce some nice twists and turns to throw some expectations askew.
I feel the same way. The most predictable outcome is a final showdown between Rey and Kylo/CG guy, and that Kylo gets redeemed Vader style somehow. But it would be so damn lazy.
I still hope deep down that they'll have the balls to give us a heel turn for Rey, and make Kylo help the rebellion ultimately, yet not be redeemed like Vader. At the end, Kylo stands over the dead corpse of the Sith Rey, then walks away to live in isolation, forever tormented by the terrible things he did. BB-9, Chewy and Lumpy, Lando, Jr., Wicket, and the others look on, not with appreciation and respect, but with flat affect, and a bit of disgust for how things all turned out.
But what I'm hoping for most of all is that Murray from Flight of the Conchords ends up being the boss of the Irish ginger officer guy we saw in Force Awakens.
If they give me that, they can make it as lazy and derivative as they want to.
I still hope deep down that they'll have the balls to give us a heel turn for Rey, and make Kylo help the rebellion ultimately, yet not be redeemed like Vader. At the end, Kylo stands over the dead corpse of the Sith Rey, then walks away to live in isolation, forever tormented by the terrible things he did. BB-9, Chewy and Lumpy, Lando, Jr., Wicket, and the others look on, not with appreciation and respect, but with flat affect, and a bit of disgust for how things all turned out.
But what I'm hoping for most of all is that Murray from Flight of the Conchords ends up being the boss of the Irish ginger officer guy we saw in Force Awakens.
If they give me that, they can make it as lazy and derivative as they want to.
EVILFACE
Insufferable S.O.B.
TO me that's meh. We've already seen Kylo get his ass handed to him, by a girl. And now that girl is off for some official training. Are we to expect a different outcome?
Speculation was that Kylo would get more intense training from the troll master guy, and you would expect him to be dominant in the next film, setting up his loss to Rey in Ep. 9.
Apparently. That's gonna make a whole lot of sense isn't it.
I imagine a rematch might go differently if Kylo isn't bleeding out from a bowcaster wound and doesn't have the "bring her in alive" handicap (though admittedly Vader DID have that handicap in ESB and still kicked Luke's ass.) I have a feeling that they might not even face off again until Episode IX though.
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Episode 8 is the middle episode. I don't expect much to go right for Luke and Rey in this one. Snoke and Kylo gain advantage in this episode. Don't expect Luke to survive this one. Or maybe he does but is a non issue in 9 like yoda was in 6.
Finding out who snoke is is a key for me.
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Mark Hamill said that
I'm looking forward to learning Snoke's true size. Whether he's really a giant or is in fact a midget. If he's human sized that will be a big disappointment.
Carrie Fisher's death "will give Episode 8 a melancholy it doesn't deserve." So my guess is that Luke was always intended to survive the movie. If he was going to die then I don't think that Mark would be lamenting an air of melancholy being added to the picture.
I'm looking forward to learning Snoke's true size. Whether he's really a giant or is in fact a midget. If he's human sized that will be a big disappointment.
jye4ever
Broke and happy
Technically what you just described should immediately ruin 7/8/9....if you let it though.
While i'm still alive and breathing i'll be looking forward to the rinse repeat nature of it all.
I take him to be a normal sized person and not a Godzilla sized Sith.
Yeah. Until Snoke was obviously a hologram I thought his size was ridiculous. Normal sized or smaller and I'll be ok.
Gargantuan or hobbit sized and I will roll my eyes.
Gargantuan or hobbit sized and I will roll my eyes.
Obviously it didn't stop me from enjoying TFA.
In fact I pretty much consider it to be the ROTJ that Kasdan and Ford originally wanted but that was vetoed by Lucas. So it was cool to see that play out.Another thing that this new trilogy has that was absent in both the OT and PT are the Knights of Ren. Glad they aren't repeating the "only two" rule because I'm really looking forward to having some "fodder Sith" that can cause trouble for Luke and Rey. Hopefully they all have unique looks and personalities and aren't just drones.
Lejuan
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IMAX Snoke was ridiculous.
Prime Clone
Super Freak
I read he was originally intended to be there "in the flesh" and was a giant. It became logistically easier to show him as a hologram rather than have him walking around in a room with human-sized characters.
Bo Shrek
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To date we have all thought that Palpatine was the top most guy of the Sith. What is he was not and he took orders just like everyone else? Enter Snoke maybe a tier above Palpatine!!
Why would he be a giant? Nothing in the Star Wars universe has established that giants walk among them.
