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**** that pleb Faraci. As soon as he said 'overrated', I stopped reading.
**** that pleb Faraci. As soon as he said 'overrated', I stopped reading.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread
And just to point out--the Prequels aren't ****ty
Check the reviews, when each came out, critics all reviewed them well and they all made tons of money.
I think the weeds here are the people who didn't like them in the first place and then kept telling everyone they're terrible since then. It seems people pick up that sentiment since the most outspoken people are the ones who have the most negative opinion.
And just to point out--the Prequels aren't ****ty
Check the reviews, when each came out, critics all reviewed them well and they all made tons of money.
I think the weeds here are the people who didn't like them in the first place and then kept telling everyone they're terrible since then. It seems people pick up that sentiment since the most outspoken people are the ones who have the most negative opinion.
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Although I don't think cash is an accurate factor of how good a movie is to me personally, it definitely speaks to a movies popularity to the masses. The bolded is 100% dead right as well. 
Although I don't think cash is an accurate factor of how good a movie is to me personally, it definitely speaks to a movies popularity to the masses. The bolded is 100% dead right as well.
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Money is a good way to know what the general public, though it doesn't necessarily mean it's a good movie. Critics in this case can give a bit more info: TPM 50%(including 3D rerelease) AOTC: 67% ROTS: 80% ROTJ: 79%
That's well above most movies
Money is a good way to know what the general public, though it doesn't necessarily mean it's a good movie. Critics in this case can give a bit more info: TPM 50%(including 3D rerelease) AOTC: 67% ROTS: 80% ROTJ: 79%
That's well above most movies
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I think these numbers hit on the way I feel about the franchise as well... as long as New Hope and Empire are way over 80%. The only movie I don't watch repeatedly is TPM and I thought about half of AOTC was excellent for as much as people trash it.
I think these numbers hit on the way I feel about the franchise as well... as long as New Hope and Empire are way over 80%. The only movie I don't watch repeatedly is TPM and I thought about half of AOTC was excellent for as much as people trash it.
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When did it become cool to bash Return of the Jedi? I always thought the OT was considered the holy grail, and never noticed a drop in quality between them.
When did it become cool to bash Return of the Jedi? I always thought the OT was considered the holy grail, and never noticed a drop in quality between them.
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Ewoks were loathed from day one, I know, I was there.
When did it become cool to bash Return of the Jedi? I always thought the OT was considered the holy grail, and never noticed a drop in quality between them.
Ewoks were loathed from day one, I know, I was there.
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What's wrong with the ewoks? Sure they're funny little furry creatures but they weren't annoying, potty humor spewing dumbasses like JarJar.
What's wrong with the ewoks? Sure they're funny little furry creatures but they weren't annoying, potty humor spewing dumbasses like JarJar.
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JarrJarr killed robots with lucky shots, Ewoks killed an armored legion of the emporer's best troops with sticks and stones.
JarrJarr killed robots with lucky shots, Ewoks killed an armored legion of the emporer's best troops with sticks and stones.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread
Mark Hamill discusses Star Wars, confirms Carrie Fisher's involvement in the new Trilogy and more! - Ain't It Cool News
Great lengthy read. I have highlighted some of his quotes regarding the approach for Episode 7.
He also said since then he's only had one creative meeting with Kathleen Kennedy in which he brought up the desire to have a more balanced approach to the effects. His favorite film is the 1933 King Kong and he loves the way they used all sorts of tricks to pull off the effects and he also believes part of the longevity of the original trilogy is in those effects.
“There's nothing wrong with CGI, but I think you have to have a balance because the camera perceives the width and the depth and the weight of a miniature or a model.” He just said he isn't a fan of the one guy surrounded by greenscreen look and told Kennedy that he'd hate for these new movies to “look like Roger Rabbit.”
While he was the first to admit that any creative decisions involving the new Star Wars Trilogy won't have “Make Mark Hamill happy” as priority #1, he did say that Kennedy agreed with him and already discussed that with George Lucas, citing how Jurassic Park only had a handful of digital shots in the whole movie that are sold by blending in with the practical creatures and other cinema tricks.
Hamill also said that he knows that Carrie Fisher's in 100%, has heard Harrison Ford is onboard, but hasn't talked to him personally to confirm it and that he hasn't yet met with JJ Abrams.
He anticipated the focus of the trilogy to be on the next generation “and that's as it should be.” Hamill doesn't know anything specific, he was quick to remind us, but he suspects the “old folks” will be more like Sir Alec Guinness in the OT. “I want it to be age appropriate, so heavy on the Jedi mind tricks and lighten up on the lightsaber duels. Let the kids do the heavily lifting!”
“Part of me is cautious, saying 'let well enough alone, let everyone keep their nice memories if they have nice memories and don't try to go back and do it again.' But the other side of me, the adventurous side, thinks 'If everyone's in, how could I miss this?” How could you indeed?
Hamill wrapped up his new trilogy talk with this gem:
“I'm one of you, I feel like you're one of us. I'll be in there fighting and trying to be as honest as I can be about what I think it is made these movies so special in the first place. It always starts with the script and that's why I'm so encouraged by Michael Arndt's involvement because I respect his writing so much. He's a big fan of these movies, so hopefully we can make something that doesn't make everyone want to find us, cut off our heads and throw it right in our faces.”
Mark Hamill discusses Star Wars, confirms Carrie Fisher's involvement in the new Trilogy and more! - Ain't It Cool News
Great lengthy read. I have highlighted some of his quotes regarding the approach for Episode 7.
He also said since then he's only had one creative meeting with Kathleen Kennedy in which he brought up the desire to have a more balanced approach to the effects. His favorite film is the 1933 King Kong and he loves the way they used all sorts of tricks to pull off the effects and he also believes part of the longevity of the original trilogy is in those effects.
“There's nothing wrong with CGI, but I think you have to have a balance because the camera perceives the width and the depth and the weight of a miniature or a model.” He just said he isn't a fan of the one guy surrounded by greenscreen look and told Kennedy that he'd hate for these new movies to “look like Roger Rabbit.”
While he was the first to admit that any creative decisions involving the new Star Wars Trilogy won't have “Make Mark Hamill happy” as priority #1, he did say that Kennedy agreed with him and already discussed that with George Lucas, citing how Jurassic Park only had a handful of digital shots in the whole movie that are sold by blending in with the practical creatures and other cinema tricks.
Hamill also said that he knows that Carrie Fisher's in 100%, has heard Harrison Ford is onboard, but hasn't talked to him personally to confirm it and that he hasn't yet met with JJ Abrams.
He anticipated the focus of the trilogy to be on the next generation “and that's as it should be.” Hamill doesn't know anything specific, he was quick to remind us, but he suspects the “old folks” will be more like Sir Alec Guinness in the OT. “I want it to be age appropriate, so heavy on the Jedi mind tricks and lighten up on the lightsaber duels. Let the kids do the heavily lifting!”
“Part of me is cautious, saying 'let well enough alone, let everyone keep their nice memories if they have nice memories and don't try to go back and do it again.' But the other side of me, the adventurous side, thinks 'If everyone's in, how could I miss this?” How could you indeed?
Hamill wrapped up his new trilogy talk with this gem:
“I'm one of you, I feel like you're one of us. I'll be in there fighting and trying to be as honest as I can be about what I think it is made these movies so special in the first place. It always starts with the script and that's why I'm so encouraged by Michael Arndt's involvement because I respect his writing so much. He's a big fan of these movies, so hopefully we can make something that doesn't make everyone want to find us, cut off our heads and throw it right in our faces.”
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread
Nice! At least Mark has a balanced look at it.
Nice! At least Mark has a balanced look at it.
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Mark seems like enough of a film geek to know where the sweet spot needs to be for the new films.
Mark seems like enough of a film geek to know where the sweet spot needs to be for the new films.
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Mark gets it. Hopefully Kathleen Kennedy and Disney get it too.
So excited for this!
Mark gets it. Hopefully Kathleen Kennedy and Disney get it too.
So excited for this!
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That was a great read. Much respect for Mark Hamill
That was a great read. Much respect for Mark Hamill
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Simon Pegg has waxed lyrical on J.J. Abrams' take on Star Wars in a recent interview, claiming that "all the things we loved about the first three, we will see again."
“What will he bring to the franchise? Everything that was missing from the last three," enthuses Pegg in the latest issue of Total Film. That’s what he did to Star Trek, really – invigorate it with a little bit of Star Wars magic. He switched it from science-fiction to science-fantasy."
Pegg goes on to describe Star Wars as being in a "mire," and stresses that Abrams is the man to "pull it out."
“He’ll bring the fun back. Lucas seemed to misread what made the first ones great, and concentrate on things that people didn't really care about, or wilfully ignore the things that people cared about. Whereas J.J. will embrace them all.
“We’re going to see the Millennium Falcon again. We’re going to see those characters again. All the things that we loved about the first three, we will see again."
Simon Pegg has waxed lyrical on J.J. Abrams' take on Star Wars in a recent interview, claiming that "all the things we loved about the first three, we will see again."
“What will he bring to the franchise? Everything that was missing from the last three," enthuses Pegg in the latest issue of Total Film. That’s what he did to Star Trek, really – invigorate it with a little bit of Star Wars magic. He switched it from science-fiction to science-fantasy."
Pegg goes on to describe Star Wars as being in a "mire," and stresses that Abrams is the man to "pull it out."
“He’ll bring the fun back. Lucas seemed to misread what made the first ones great, and concentrate on things that people didn't really care about, or wilfully ignore the things that people cared about. Whereas J.J. will embrace them all.
“We’re going to see the Millennium Falcon again. We’re going to see those characters again. All the things that we loved about the first three, we will see again."
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The writer who's shown the greatest understanding of Star Wars in the last 35 year is Joss Whedon. Firefly and Malcolm Reynolds are pretty thinly disguised Han Solo and the Falcon. And I dug Firefly. I was a fun show and had a lot of adventure and things the PT needed.
I would love to see Joss Whedon make a Star Wars film.
The writer who's shown the greatest understanding of Star Wars in the last 35 year is Joss Whedon. Firefly and Malcolm Reynolds are pretty thinly disguised Han Solo and the Falcon. And I dug Firefly. I was a fun show and had a lot of adventure and things the PT needed.
I would love to see Joss Whedon make a Star Wars film.
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Simon Pegg. . .
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Simon Pegg. . .
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Awf cawrse, Hayden Christensen is being fitted as we speak.
Awf cawrse, Hayden Christensen is being fitted as we speak.
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I would rather see a Joss Whedon directed Star Wars film, then written one. Nothing against him, I just don't really think his super snappy dialoge is that great for Star Wars.
But he can inject those great little moments of acting. Which would be nice to see.
I would rather see a Joss Whedon directed Star Wars film, then written one. Nothing against him, I just don't really think his super snappy dialoge is that great for Star Wars.
But he can inject those great little moments of acting. Which would be nice to see.
