Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[darthviper107]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

I think he'd make a great Thrawn. But I don't think the Thrawn trilogy was very good so I hope they don't go with that.

 

[stshammgod]

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I think he'd make a great Thrawn. But I don't think the Thrawn trilogy was very good so I hope they don't go with that.

Wow, you're one of the first I've ever heard to say so. What about it didn't you like? I'm curious.

 

[darthviper107]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

I don't think the series is structured very well for a movie trilogy, there isn't a lot of actual action that you would want in a movie. I also don't like how the characters are used, in a movie you want your characters to grow and change, but that doesn't happen. They just "do things" the only one is different at the end is Mara Jade. And I don't know if this is the same in the books (I read the comics) but Thrawn never seemed all that big of an adversary. The Luke clone was pretty dumb too.

 

[Zen Mutiny]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

I don't think the series is structured very well for a movie trilogy, there isn't a lot of actual action that you would want in a movie. I also don't like how the characters are used, in a movie you want your characters to grow and change, but that doesn't happen. They just "do things" the only one is different at the end is Mara Jade. And I don't know if this is the same in the books (I read the comics) but Thrawn never seemed all that big of an adversary. The Luke clone was pretty dumb too.

I think the biggest question here is, will they stick with the continuity established by extended universe sources, or will they forge their own path? I'm predicting the latter. JJ just oozes with too much "I'm too good for the pathetic nerds who worship me" to go with the former. Plus, I don't think he's as much of a Star Wars fan as he says he is. I think he just says he's more of a Star Wars fan than a Star Trek fan, because that's always been the 'cool' thing to say. Not saying he's a Star Trek fan, of course, I believe him there. I just don't think he's enough of a Star Wars fan to care about little details in the continuity, especially the expanded continuity of books and comics. But, who knows, maybe that will be down to the writers, and perhaps he will have more detail-oriented writers on hand than he did with Star Trek.

 

[stshammgod]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

I don't think the series is structured very well for a movie trilogy, there isn't a lot of actual action that you would want in a movie. I also don't like how the characters are used, in a movie you want your characters to grow and change, but that doesn't happen. They just "do things" the only one is different at the end is Mara Jade. And I don't know if this is the same in the books (I read the comics) but Thrawn never seemed all that big of an adversary. The Luke clone was pretty dumb too.

Well, the comics don't hold a candle to the books. You really should read the books. I'm not sure they are structured well for a movie trilogy, but as books, I loved them. And I loved how Thrawn was a different kind of villain... not a Sith, but very much on the same playing field as someone like Palpatine. Extremely brilliant. The way he figured people out was very cool.

 

[darthviper107]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

I think it would be very good to not have a Sith as the villain, one of the problems with the EU is that it mostly is just Jedi Vs. Sith over and over again, it'd be nice to do something different.
I hope though if they decide to use the character of Thrawn they make up something entirely new and don't use any of the book storyline. I know they wouldn't adapt the stories there anyway, but I would hope they wouldn't use anything but characters.

 

[Zen Mutiny]

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I think it would be very good to not have a Sith as the villain, one of the problems with the EU is that it mostly is just Jedi Vs. Sith over and over again, it'd be nice to do something different.
I hope though if they decide to use the character of Thrawn they make up something entirely new and don't use any of the book storyline. I know they wouldn't adapt the stories there anyway, but I would hope they wouldn't use anything but characters.

Personally, I have no stake in the matter of whether or not they use the EU. As a Star Trek fan, I have no problem with books and comics not being canon, and always found it weird that they are considered canon in the Star Wars universe. I realize that the Thrawn trilogy takes place much sooner after the events of Episode VI than Episode VII will, and even though it's been quite a while since I've read those books, I feel that Thrawn is the most memorable EU villain to be produced since the movies. On the other hand, I would be impressed if JJ and crew actually respected the continuity and worked in ways that don't contradict it. I certainly don't expect them to, but I would respect them for it. It's always more of a challenge to work around existing source material and still produce quality work, than it is to ignore it. Just my two cents.

Just curious, based on the time it's been since the run of the original trilogy, and judging by how much the original actors have aged in real time since then, are there any EU fans on this board who know what should be going on in the Star Wars universe at this time, and what some good stories to adapt would be?

 

[thenammagazine]

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I don't think the series is structured very well for a movie trilogy, there isn't a lot of actual action that you would want in a movie. I also don't like how the characters are used, in a movie you want your characters to grow and change, but that doesn't happen. They just "do things" the only one is different at the end is Mara Jade. And I don't know if this is the same in the books (I read the comics) but Thrawn never seemed all that big of an adversary. The Luke clone was pretty dumb too.

For once we agree. The novels were a great trilogy to help ride out the SW drought, but they were like pulling teeth to get started, were overly long with everything drawn out in ultra fine details with very little "excitement."

 

[FLOSI]

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I have a crazy *** thought.... What if these movies end up being.....

Wait for it.....







Wait for it......










Wait...

For...



It...





BETTER THAN THE OT??????????

 

[thenammagazine]

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I have a crazy *** thought.... What if these movies end up being.....

BETTER THAN THE OT??????????

The OT elitists would still be in 100% denial?

 

[darthviper107]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

Just curious, based on the time it's been since the run of the original trilogy, and judging by how much the original actors have aged in real time since then, are there any EU fans on this board who know what should be going on in the Star Wars universe at this time, and what some good stories to adapt would be?

Based off the age of the original actors, Episode VII should be taking place around the Legacy of the Jedi series.

I think it's likely they will have Jaina and Jacen as main characters, and maybe Ben Skywalker. At that time with those characters they could do almost anything without messing with the EU, or at least the stories before that time. The one thing though is that for the general audience they need to know what happened since the last movies and that's where I think they will start overriding the EU.

 

[Zen Mutiny]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

One thing's for sure, they will probably ignore the EU, so whoever's going to be disappointed about that might as well get it out of their systems now.

 

[FLOSI]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

The OT elitists would still be in 100% denial?

I'll go in with low expectations, but you never know.

 

[thenammagazine]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

Based off the age of the original actors, Episode VII should be taking place around the Legacy of the Jedi series.

I think it's likely they will have Jaina and Jacen as main characters, and maybe Ben Skywalker. At that time with those characters they could do almost anything without messing with the EU, or at least the stories before that time. The one thing though is that for the general audience they need to know what happened since the last movies and that's where I think they will start overriding the EU.

Except for cherrypicking cool (and lame) ideas, LFL never really acknowledged the EU. I don't see Disney being any different, especially since they'll be looking to establish their own brand of SW.

I'll go in with low expectations, but you never know.

After putting ROTS over ANH and ROTJ, to me, it just has to be on par with ROTJ to work.

 

[darthviper107]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

I don't see them caring if they override the EU, but I would be very surprised if they don't use something from it, at least some characters.
Lucasfilm approves the EU stuff, if it doesn't contradict the movies or the TV show, then it's considered canon. The TV show did use some EU stuff along with overriding things as well.

 

[Zen Mutiny]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

I don't see them caring if they override the EU, but I would be very surprised if they don't use something from it, at least some characters.
Lucasfilm approves the EU stuff, if it doesn't contradict the movies or the TV show, then it's considered canon. The TV show did use some EU stuff along with overriding things as well.

I would definitely like to see them take elements from it and adapt them, but I don't expect them to be 100% consistent with it. I'll be impressed if they do. I could see it being more like most comic book movies you see - a loose adaptation.

 

[FLOSI]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

After putting ROTS over ANH and ROTJ, to me, it just has to be on par with ROTJ to work.

You should check yourself into a mental ward.

 

[CelticPredator]

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The OT elitists would still be in 100% denial?

No. All the fans asked for was some good movies. If they're good movies, maybe better then the originals, I don't think anyone will have a problem.

 

[thenammagazine]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

I need to remove my blinders and pull my fingers out of my ears.

Good idea!

 

[Magpie 7]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015) Discussion Thread

With the time they're giving the film, which no film gets now a days, for pre-production and post production thers absolutely no reason why this film shouldn't be better than average at the very least!!!