Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[Magpie 7]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

still no Trailer hey...?

Teaser Trailer to be released sometime between Xmas and New Year apparently, don't get too excited it'll not be more than clips from the films so far and a voice over by Hamill.

 

[Kamandi]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Teaser Trailer to be released sometime between Xmas and New Year apparently, don't get too excited it'll not be more than clips from the films so far and a voice over by Hamill.

I would expect one or two shots done just for a teaser trailer + a title card. The rest will be filler just like you said.

 

[ProgMatinee]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Thats okay, I'll take it. Still, you guys remember the EPI teaser with the horn and the jar-jars riding through the fog. It seems so insignificant part of the movie now but it was all we needed for a nerdgasm.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Thats okay, I'll take it. Still, you guys remember the EPI teaser with the horn and the jar-jars riding through the fog. It seems so insignificant part of the movie now but it was all we needed for a nerdgasm.

Aahhh.. the pre PT days.

 

[darthviper107]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

They really shouldn't release a trailer, it's 2 years away

 

[Kamandi]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

I'd be surprised if there's even a teaser before next summer.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Hopefully E7 is brave enough to continue the Taxation of Trade Routes story line from the PT.

Edge of your seat kind of stuff, a real nail biter plot that was

 

[rushmore223]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Hopefully E7 is brave enough to continue the Taxation of Trade Routes story line from the PT.

Edge of your seat kind of stuff, a real nail biter plot that was

With Jar Jar as the male lead!

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Digital is embraced because it's CHEAP, not because the positives outweigh the negatives. I know the pros vs cons of both. I am happy they're going with film and I don't think this debate between filmmakers or movie fans will go away anytime soon.

Digital filmmaking is perfectly fine. And it's a good tool. It's cheaper, and faster, yes. But that can indeed save you time and money so you can focus on something else.

That being said, digital, like any tool, should be used appropriately. Some DP's can make digital look as good as any film, perhaps better, just as well as some DP's can make film look better then any digital film ever made.

Just depends on who's helming it.

Your sad post makes me very sad.

Same here. **** that noise. Pun absolutely intended. Noise is what makes film, film. If your movie doesn't have noise, then it's too glossy and probably sucks. (STAR WARS PLASTIC PREQUELS)

The CG had nothing to do with the quality of the filmed footage. The advantages of digital would allow them more time to get things right and spend money on the areas that count. When you have more control over things then you can do what you really want to. Of course that was something that helped on the OT, (it was better because you didn't get Lucas' original vision) but with a good director it wouldn't be the same way.

The best thing about the OT films, is that they feel real. I can't stress how important that aspect is. The world is lived in. You can see these places, and objects that clearly exist in front of the actors, that they are touching, and moving around on...and you buy it all. It grounds you into this fantastical story.

Unlike the prequels, where nothing felt real, and everything felt like it was shot on a small green room. Which it was. That's why nothing happens in those movies. It's all very static, boring, cold and sterile.
There is no life or personality to those movies. Which is why they are incredibly terrible films.

CGI is a tool. Use it when you need it. Never when you don't.

 

[TURINS~BANE]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Thats okay, I'll take it. Still, you guys remember the EPI teaser with the horn and the jar-jars riding through the fog. It seems so insignificant part of the movie now but it was all we needed for a nerdgasm.

Yes i remmember seeing that on the big screen, just started the trailer of wonderful moment when i was a kid.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Watch this interview excerpt with John Knoll of ILM:

[ame]https://youtu.be/w_E8EKK0NHo[/ame]

He talks about why digital is preferred among filmmakers simply because of the flexibility it affords them. They are able to change things right up to the last minute, as opposed to having to commit to the effects scene from the beginning if they were to opt for miniatures, etc. Digital is also cheaper, but not always.

It's very interesting.

 

[automaton]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

CGI is a tool. Use it when you need it. Never when you don't.[/QUOTE]


CGI isn't the issue... it is the vision / craftsmen / storytellers wielding "the tool" that make or break.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

CGI can absolutely be the issue. The prequels would've been at least 15% better had they been filmed in real locations and didn't look like plastic.

 

[Kamandi]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Actors react differently to green sets than real sets and miniatures. The more you give them up front the better performance you get on film.

"This green tennis ball on a stick is a terrifying monster. Run up those green steps towards that set of dots"

Audiences are better at seeing CG today than a few years ago. Many of us here ripped on The Hobbit for not using enough physical effects and monsters.

 

[thenammagazine]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Nowadays CGI is used as a crutch. Too many film makers limp along with the idea of, "Meh, we'll fix it in post."

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

That's the worst attitude....I agree.

If you just can't figure out how to do it, and you're running out of time....CGI is a good tool to use as a quick crutch. But ONLY when you get to that point. Not just because you're lazy.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

The thing is, Uncle George really thought he was being a visionary when he turned his films into video games.

 

[darthviper107]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

For the most part, CG is used when there's no other choice. Sometimes directors make bad choices that can only be done with CG, but a lot of the stuff in the PT would not have been as good if they had to shoot in only places that existed. The main thing that would have helped would have been a better script. Many of the bad acting scenes like the stuff with Anakin and Padme were in real locations (like stuff on Naboo or Tatooine) so it wasn't all the bluescreen that caused those scenes to be bad.

 

[thenammagazine]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

For the most part, CG is used when there's no other choice. Sometimes directors make bad choices that can only be done with CG, but a lot of the stuff in the PT would not have been as good if they had to shoot in only places that existed. The main thing that would have helped would have been a better script. Many of the bad acting scenes like the stuff with Anakin and Padme were in real locations (like stuff on Naboo or Tatooine) so it wasn't all the bluescreen that caused those scenes to be bad.

Um... SyFy completely disagrees.

 

[darthviper107]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

I'd like to see someone make a shark tornado using practical FX