Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[darthviper107]

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There was something off about it, but what was surprising was that it was the same people who did The Curious Case of Benjamin Button where they did a digital double perfectly.

 

[lerath666]

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We've been told the EU isn't being used as a template for the Sequel Trilogy so may be Leia is too busy with rebuilding the Jedi order and re-populating the galaxy with powerful force sensitive beings for politics? If Luke follows Yoda's policy and the Jedi will merely be the servants of the politicians and not be the decision makers themselves.

No. What was said was they wouldn't be adapting the novels into films/ using them to write screenplays. and that's ALL that has been said officialy. If they had no plans of using atleast some of it to help fill in the 20-30 year gap, they would have just tossed it all out, instead of having the Lucasfilm story group to go through and decide what parts of it are being kept as part of the new official Canon, and what's not.

That said, what you said is more or less what happens to Leia in the books. she eventualy gets too busy with the jedi order, AND her family to have time or energy for politics. HOWEVER, given that she wa s a politician for sucha long time, she isstill called on more often than most to act as an envoy.

 

[K07]

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This movie is set 30 years or so after RotJ. There's no reason to digitize them to look younger.

 

[darthviper107]

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They don't have to do much than what they're already doing, they're pretty much the age of the actual characters already.

 

[lerath666]

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yeah, i don't get where this " they need to look younger" mindset is coming from.

Besides, Hamill looks great.

 

[thenammagazine]

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yeah, i don't get where this " they need to look younger" mindset is coming from.

Besides, Hamill looks great.

Same idiots who think Supermodels need to look like Jack Skellington and think Scarlett Johansson is fat.

 

[darthviper107]

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Well, Mark and Carrie haven't been doing much in front of the camera for a while so they do need to get more fit, which is what it seems they are doing.

 

[lerath666]

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for those who may have missed the most recent picture of mark.

 

[K07]

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Yup. Looks great. Harrison looks great. Carrie can do it. We've seen she's capable having been the Jenny Craig spokeswoman recently. It'll all work out fine. I'm wondering how strange it will be for these three to get back in fron of the camera again in a galaxy far, far away. I hope the chemistry from the OT is still there.

I am still wondering about Billy Dee Williams reprising his role as Lando, Anthony Daniels lending his voice for C-3PO, or if Denis Lawson would be thought of to reprise his role as Wedge. Really hoping these others get included. Chewie and R2 could be played by anyone if the original actors' health don't allow them to return.

 

[Indiana]

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Yeah, he looks great. The problem is that most people see bad paparazzi photos of him; everyone looks terrible in those. I have no doubt Harrison can pull it off: say what you will about KotCS, but Harrison proved that he still can pull of some action stunts. Carrie Fisher will be fine like you said. She has had trouble with alcoholism (with it a lot of other problems by its extension), and the only thing that could be troubling is if she has trouble losing any weight. I heard the only reason that she looked as thin as she did in the OT, was that she was constantly running and exercising. She knows what needs to be done if it needs to be; but does she have time to do so?

 

[Sachiel]

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Here's a recent video with Mark.

 

[Magpie 7]

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No. What was said was they wouldn't be adapting the novels into films/ using them to write screenplays. and that's ALL that has been said officialy. If they had no plans of using atleast some of it to help fill in the 20-30 year gap, they would have just tossed it all out, instead of having the Lucasfilm story group to go through and decide what parts of it are being kept as part of the new official Canon, and what's not.

That said, what you said is more or less what happens to Leia in the books. she eventualy gets too busy with the jedi order, AND her family to have time or energy for politics. HOWEVER, given that she wa s a politician for sucha long time, she is still called on more often than most to act as an envoy.

When i said they won't be using the EU as a template, what i was meaning is any elements they do use will be adapted. Whether that's a character such as Dash Rendar being slightly re-drawn and renamed but essentially Dash, we'll have to see but thats the jist of it that Abrams is hinting at. They certainly won't be using the timeline from the EU because that simply gives the writers and director to little latitude and boxes in the ending. The thing Abrams and Kasdan really want is to bring a fresh look at Star Wars, but with familiar characters. You also have to remember that this is still been written from an outline by Lucas and we know he isn't a huge fan of some of the EU elements such as Luke having married and having children.

 

[lerath666]

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When i said they won't be using the EU as a template, what i was meaning is any elements they do use will be adapted. Whether that's a character such as Dash Rendar being slightly re-drawn and renamed but essentially Dash, we'll have to see but thats the jist of it that Abrams is hinting at. They certainly won't be using the timeline from the EU because that simply gives the writers and director to little latitude and boxes in the ending. The thing Abrams and Kasdan really want is to bring a fresh look at Star Wars, but with familiar characters. You also have to remember that this is still been written from an outline by Lucas and we know he isn't a huge fan of some of the EU elements such as Luke having married and having children.

Umm, that's not what was said last month, so unless you've got some newer news regarding the Lucasfilm story group, i think your infor is out of date.

 

[Niltusk]

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Umm, that's not what was said last month, so unless you've got some newer news regarding the Lucasfilm story group, i think your infor is out of date.

If they're not updating and using elements from the EU in a fresh story, what are they doing? Just making an EU movie? Then why keep it secretive? Magpie's scenario, whether correct or incorrect sounds alot better, I would prefer this to be open ended and not running on rails with a bunch of novels.

 

[lerath666]

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No, they're pruning the existing EU, and deciding what's going to be kept, intact and whole, and what is going to be removed.

It's also possible that some of what is removed might get adapted, and changed, and drawn from.

My take on what he wroate was that His thought was that ALL of it was more or less getting a re-write, and they were starting over with an entirely new Canon. This isn't the case.

Some of it's gonna stay as is, including the post ROTJ stories
Some of it's gonna go away completely
Some of it's gonna ge "reimagined"

It's not going to be an "expanded universe? film, but it will draw on things that have already happened in the EU to set a backdrop where it can.

It's also worth noting that disney IS planning to Do away with the Expanded universe as a concept, with it's multi-tiered Canon system.
Going forward, there will only be ONE star wars universe, and EVERYHING willbe canon.

If it happens in a SW Comic, Nove, Game, or TV show once the Story group is done, it's official, and it Happened. YOu can expect the resutls of those novels, comics, and ETC to effect what happens in the films as well.

 

[lerath666]

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HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE:

Lets say that The story group decides to keep EVERY book that was written up to The Thrawn Trilogy in the timeline. All the events that take place in those books STILL take place.

This means that Mara jade exists, Thrawn lived and died, the Nogrhi exist, etc.

All the adventures in the X-wing novels Took place.
Yssane Issard exists. SO does Tycho Celchu.

Moving forward, lets say that they decide tehy like Corran Horn, But the events that took place at the jedi academy on Yavin were too ... goofy.

SO the I jedi books, and the Jedi academy series is tossed out.

HOWEVER< tehy still keep the characters from those books, And keep a rough outline , that Luke DID infact found a jedi temple on Yavin 4, untill the republic took controll of Coruscaunt, and he was ble to reclaim the old temple.

So now, the Solo children exist. BUT lets say that abrams and company decide that they like a married luke, and the solo children, but hate the names Mara, Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin.

They rename them
Tammy, Bob, Karen, and Mike.
So in order to keep EVERYTHING in one universe, they would need to see to it that ALL future printgins of those books they kept as Canon are printed with the Characters NEW names, instead of the old ones....

Which makes RE-naming them seem kinda silly.

Additionaly, it's worth noting that Disney was Using the ownership if the characters created in the EU as part of the reason that Lucasfilm was worth $billion to them.

I'm not an idiot. I kow Much of it is going to be pruned. it's safe to expect that the entirety of the new Jedi order on will get tossed out, for example.

 

[crows]

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yeah, i don't get where this " they need to look younger" mindset is coming from.

Besides, Hamill looks great.

Yeah I don't get it either. Besides make up alone can make a huge difference. Huge.

On interviews and on pics of them on the street they probably are not wearing make up or anything, So I am sure in the movie they will fix them up.

 

[Centurion]

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Hollywood can make anyone look young.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

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Here's a recent video with Mark.

Great video - cheers for sharing that mate!

 

[K07]

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Mark looks great in that video! He sounds older too which is either due to a lot of cigarettes and/or 20 years or so of talking like the Joker I am so pumped to see him again in black. I hope he continues wearing black and they don't put all the characters in to PT Jedi outfits... So dull and boring of a design choice.