Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[lerath666]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Putting a bomb in what is essentialy a nuclear reactor can cause a massive chain reaction, leading to the facility being destroyed.

But killing the president and his cheifs of staff wouldn't destroy america.

Killing the bossman and his goons simply means new goons start fighting over the bosses chair, all of them claiming to be his rightful sucsessor.

Once the smoke clears, and someone has the throne, it's still an empire.

 

[EVILFACE]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

It's just a movie.

 

[Rorywan]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Whats America got to do with anything?

Empire=Emperor. America has an elected president last time I checked, not an Emperor.
Listen just go and Wiki Imperial Rome, or how Empires work and you will get it.

The new baddies could be a new order built on the foundations of the Empire, but unless old Palps is back (I wish) it will not be The Empire.

It's just a movie.

You should be banned for such sacrilegious talk.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Up front - Paploo on his Speederbike, & Binks on the back - fumbling a boomer!!

It's just a movie.

 

[lerath666]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Whats America got to do with anything?

Empire=Emperor. America has an elected president last time I checked, not an Emperor.
Listen just go and Wiki Imperial Rome, or how Empires work and you will get it.

The new baddies could be a new order built on the foundations of the Empire, but unless old Palps is back (I wish) it will not be The Empire.




You should be banned for such sacrilegious talk.

Was using it as an example, in an attempt to put things into perspective.

I KINDA get where you're coming from, and yeah, it wouldn't be the same galactic empire without him, but his death wouldn't end the government he created. Others would still rise to take his place. if there is no Hier, then a war of sucession would be the likely outcome. THAT, or the remnats of the empire falling into little independant fiefdoms, and imperial commanders all becoming warlords, and siezing power in the systems where they remained.

 

[meanstreak]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Jedi Hunters sounds more fun than the Empire... hope it's true. Star Wars needs some **** that will scare kids and between Adam Drivers face and Jedi murderers... I think that'll do it.

 

[karamazov80]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Thinking about this from a pseudo-realistic, political point of view, from my recollection the Empire as portrayed in the film was extremely advanced, and very highly institutionalized across areas of populated space. The bureaucracy involved in managing that whole operation had to be staggering, and likely had policies in place at various levels to ensure that the system could be maintained in the absence of the Emperor himself, until another Emperor could take power. Think about a North Korea for example. If Jong Un died tomorrow, the North Korean political system would still function, largely controlled by the military, because there is a ruling institution there, though a new symbolic head would be quickly appointed I bet. It's not really so reliant on the individual ruler and his cabinet, even if they have tremendous power and influence. An empire will have a central authority, but that can be replaced. I think in the Star Wars films, the bigger connection was to imperialism than historical examples of "empire." That is to say, the geographic expansion of political, military, and economic control without obtaining the democratic support of those being ruled. Unless the rebellion were able to gain control over the Empire's entire political institutional machine, through initial control over the remnants of the imperial military, obtaining buy-in from major economic stakeholders, co-optation of local leaders, the heavy use of public information campaigns in the pursuit of political support from the Empire's subjects, etc., then they would have a difficult time eradicating all the vestiges of the imperial past that might challenge them on ideological or self-interested grounds. There was a lot of upheaval in the "East" following the fall of the Berlin Wall and collapse of the USSR, and this would certainly be magnified in a system where there was a single ruling authority over all of space that was suddenly gone. I doubt strongly that the rebellion would have the wherewithal to replace the existing authority with another, more legitimate and preferable authority without going through some major growing pains. And while that happened, there would no doubt be those waiting in the wings to undermine and usurp their influence. Particularly big business and other powerful interest groups.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Aint nobody got time for dat^

 

[RavenEye]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Yes, becuase killing a few bosses, and destroying one army base completely cripples an empire spanning thousands of worlds with likely millions of other officers who were in no way waiting to sieze power for themselves with their sizeable armies at their command once no one was left above them.

Didn't Palps bring his best Naval and Admirals in ROTJ?

 

[karamazov80]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Aint nobody got time for dat^

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Aint nobody got time for dat^

 

[lerath666]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Didn't Palps bring his best Naval and Admirals in ROTJ?

some of them, yes, but not the entire fleet. There would still be more out there. Not to mention any who escaped the Death Star Battle.

 

[iron.jedi83]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

in Episode IV Grand Moff Tarkin said the regional governors would keep the systems in check without the senate. im pretty sure one of those people would take control when they hear The Emperor and Darth Vader was killed

 

[OSCORP]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

The last few pages are proof that no matter what happens fanboys will cry


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[Lakhota]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Aint nobody got time for dat^

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[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

What happens if this movie is worse than the PT?

 

[OSCORP]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Calling it now.

THIS MOVIE WILL BE GREAT!

/Faith

 

[Jayrod88]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

What happens if this movie is worse than the PT?

Fan Boys Sequel?

 

[a-dev]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

What happens if this movie is worse than the PT?

Then the Emperor has already won.

 

[stshammgod]

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (12/18/15) Discussion Thread

Then the Emperor has already won.

J.J. Was our last hope....