jye4ever
Broke and happy
Prequels inherently suck anyways, we know the ending.
I could never accept that Temple of Doom took place before Raiders.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)
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Prequels inherently suck anyways, we know the ending.
I could never accept that Temple of Doom took place before Raiders.
Kamandi
Super Freak
I never thought of Stormtroopers as clones when I was a kid. The Clone Wars were a thing of the past that clearly excited Luke - not a thing of the present. There were Stormtroopers of different sizes walking around, so again, not the same.
It will always be cheaper to draft social underclass kids from planets like Tatooine or Corellia for canonfodder than grow them in tubes.
Well in the books ST were humans. Not sure if Lucas changed his mind over time or just wanted them to not have a face. But the way the movies play out, it would be safe to assume they are all clones. And I suppose in one of the versions, they replaced the STs voice with the guy who played Jango.
Kamandi
Super Freak
Um, yeah. He can't just go back 30+ years later and give Boba Fett or the Stormtroopers a new voice and expect guys my age to give a sh--.
The Clown Prince of Crime
Super Freak
Boba Fett's new voice sucks. Especially the way the new guy delivers the lines, just horrible, like the prequels.
"What if he doesn't survive?" in orignal voice sounds like a throw-away line, like he doesn't even give a ****. The real point is that he's worth a lot and he doesn't want his property damaged.
But when Morrison says the line he reads it like it's an actual question. Lame.
But when Morrison says the line he reads it like it's an actual question. Lame.
The Clown Prince of Crime
Super Freak
Plus the original actor extends/stretches out the wordsssssss with that low voice. The new dude, just reads the line. Maybe it wasn't his fault, because someone had to direct him. I blame Lucas.
Prime Clone
Super Freak
As a kid I thought they were normal human conscripts, which was a more appealing idea. But some reference material around the time of ANH, plus the AOTC reference, made me think they were clones after all. Now the Lucasfilm Story Group (via Rebels) has retconned it anyway.
I don't understand people that love the prequels. Seems like if you're going to be a dork and like "Star Wars" you should at least like the good ones. The only people I have ever met that like the prequels live on this board. Even Disney is trying to distance itself. Disney.
The Clown Prince of Crime
Super Freak
I can understand people of a certain age liking them, especially if they were very young when they saw them, because they had no quality filter. You don't lose that affection with time, but at some point there must be a realization that those films aren't very good, even if they still like them. It's like the Fly 2, it's a piece of ****, but I still like it.
True. Still a shame.
GasparZizou
Super Freak
Yeah I liked them when I saw them, I was younger, well I liked PM because of Darth Maul, but other than Maul, Qui Gon scenes and a couple scenes from the 3rd one, I can't stomach the prequels at all anymore.
There's a cut, you guys probably know of, of someone who edited the 3 prequels into a single movie, and supposedly it's better, haven't watched it yet but I've been meaning to.
There's a cut, you guys probably know of, of someone who edited the 3 prequels into a single movie, and supposedly it's better, haven't watched it yet but I've been meaning to.
I was 4 when I saw The Phantom Menace. I told my mom I didn't like it and we left.
Ten years later I finally saw it in its entirety and appreciated it for what it is. TPM and AOTC, while I don't think deserve so much hate (frankly it gets ******* annoying seeing you all still whine about them in every thread about Star Wars) deserve to be on the bottom of the rankings for Star Wars movies. As for Revenge of the Sith, I think that is the best movie by far of the three, easily. Everything about it is good to me. I think it easily is above ROTJ and depending on the day can be as high as number 1 or as low as 3.
It is just annoying that everyone still complains about these movies ten years later. A lot of people on this site likes them, probably more than everyone thinks, but of course if you speak up and say it you will be bombarded with comments. I'm sure you guys would not like it if someone continuously knocked something you liked, just lay off it. I just don't understand why it can not be dropped.
As for this movie, I am not even looking forward to come into this thread because all it will be is the same old complaining.
Ten years later I finally saw it in its entirety and appreciated it for what it is. TPM and AOTC, while I don't think deserve so much hate (frankly it gets ******* annoying seeing you all still whine about them in every thread about Star Wars) deserve to be on the bottom of the rankings for Star Wars movies. As for Revenge of the Sith, I think that is the best movie by far of the three, easily. Everything about it is good to me. I think it easily is above ROTJ and depending on the day can be as high as number 1 or as low as 3.
It is just annoying that everyone still complains about these movies ten years later. A lot of people on this site likes them, probably more than everyone thinks, but of course if you speak up and say it you will be bombarded with comments. I'm sure you guys would not like it if someone continuously knocked something you liked, just lay off it. I just don't understand why it can not be dropped.
As for this movie, I am not even looking forward to come into this thread because all it will be is the same old complaining.
Prime Clone
Super Freak
I don't understand people who let them ruin their lives. They're just movies. I like 'em ("love" is too strong a word).
Disney itself, or the Lucasfilm production crew at conventions? If they're facing hostile fans, of course they're going to distance themselves.
Even the acting?
And the key story arc of Anakin doesn't seem rushed to you?
And Padme...?
And when Palps says "No.... Nooooooooooo......"
I would like to see this 'single movie made from all three' -- the PT as it is really should have been one movie. It's like The Hobbit that way -- stretched beyond its capacity. There's nothing needed from TPM. Very little needed from AOTC except the creation of the clone army. And ROTS could be trimmed down to a swift hour and 15 minutes easily.
Well, the arc is a slow build. Stars with TPM and ends with ROTS. For as much bashing you do on the PT, you do realize how the Anakin transformation went down, right? Saying TPM and AOTC as not needed and saying Revenge of the Sith can be trimmed down to an hour is somewhat foolish. As with the OT, there are many scenes not needed that would still get the point across.
Nothing is wrong with Padme. Not sure what scene you are referring to.
As for Palpatine saying no, you should look when Luke says no. Not sure how you can hate one, but not the other.
Acting is fine. I am not sure what you expect from a space drama. There are scenes from the OT that can be picked on for acting, but nostalgia clouds judgement.
The Clown Prince of Crime
Super Freak
Perhaps you are taking the criticism of those films too seriously. They're just movies, not your family or people you know. There are a handful of people here who like to criticize Man of Steel and the Nolan Batman films, but it doesn't bother me even though I really like those films. You see, I kind of feel bad for them that they don't or can't enjoy those movies, because they must really love the source material or those characters enough to hate those films so much, so at the very least I say, let them get some enjoyment out of criticizing them and making jokes about those films. You don't criticize something so much unless you truly care about it on some level.
To me, the arc of Anakin is very well done.
Force sensitive beings were taken as soon as birth or as young as three. Anakin was nine when he started training in the ways of the force. He knows hate, love, passion, ignorance, chaos, jealousy because he was raised as a normal slave boy. Jedi younglings are more like cult children. One way, conformity. Taught from birth the Jedi Code.
They know no love, passion, jealously because there earliest memories are this code that they forcefully live there lives buy and are trained to uphold this code since there first moments as a living being.
Anakin has these emotions already. He can not be taught to control them at this age. Sure, TPM goes long on the pod race, but finding Anakin and learning that he has a mom, is a slave, the emotions are there of love and hate, passion and jealousy. Paths to the dark side are planted in this young boy from an early age. Then he has to leave the only person he ever loved, his mother, not letting her come with him, small patches of hate toward the jedi in that reason alone start to grow in young Ani.
Fast forward to AOTC. A teenage Anakin. The death of his mother, slaughtering the Tusken Raider men, women and children even. The emotions carry over from TPM to AOTC, he never could control his emotions. Throw in the love of Padme, it clouds his judgement, even his love for Obi-Wan clouds his judgement in the rescue mission for him on Geonosis, that and his willingness to please/protect/do anything for Padme. He marries Padme and vows to basically do anyting to protect her.
Fast forward to ROTS. The constant badgering of Palpatine slowly manipulating this emotionally unstable young adult. Killing Dooku, worrying about the fate of Padme, the same fate of his mother, that she could die. Do you see how AOTC is connected to ROTS. The inability to stop death has warped his mind throughout that time span to the point in his mind everything he does is to save Padme, which was saving Palpatine, killing hundreds of Jedi and Jedi youngling. All for Padme. Of course it his eagerness to save Padme which ultimately kills her, to me completing the transformation.
Force sensitive beings were taken as soon as birth or as young as three. Anakin was nine when he started training in the ways of the force. He knows hate, love, passion, ignorance, chaos, jealousy because he was raised as a normal slave boy. Jedi younglings are more like cult children. One way, conformity. Taught from birth the Jedi Code.
They know no love, passion, jealously because there earliest memories are this code that they forcefully live there lives buy and are trained to uphold this code since there first moments as a living being.
Anakin has these emotions already. He can not be taught to control them at this age. Sure, TPM goes long on the pod race, but finding Anakin and learning that he has a mom, is a slave, the emotions are there of love and hate, passion and jealousy. Paths to the dark side are planted in this young boy from an early age. Then he has to leave the only person he ever loved, his mother, not letting her come with him, small patches of hate toward the jedi in that reason alone start to grow in young Ani.
Fast forward to AOTC. A teenage Anakin. The death of his mother, slaughtering the Tusken Raider men, women and children even. The emotions carry over from TPM to AOTC, he never could control his emotions. Throw in the love of Padme, it clouds his judgement, even his love for Obi-Wan clouds his judgement in the rescue mission for him on Geonosis, that and his willingness to please/protect/do anything for Padme. He marries Padme and vows to basically do anyting to protect her.
Fast forward to ROTS. The constant badgering of Palpatine slowly manipulating this emotionally unstable young adult. Killing Dooku, worrying about the fate of Padme, the same fate of his mother, that she could die. Do you see how AOTC is connected to ROTS. The inability to stop death has warped his mind throughout that time span to the point in his mind everything he does is to save Padme, which was saving Palpatine, killing hundreds of Jedi and Jedi youngling. All for Padme. Of course it his eagerness to save Padme which ultimately kills her, to me completing the transformation.
Wor-Gar, if I came of as a jerk in my reply to you, that was not my intention. Apologies. 
