Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[Cavlcade]

Another trench run?

This really is just a remake isn't it.

 

[Oxnard Montalvo]

um.. what?

Driver was photographed without his helmet on for the Vanity Fair article 6 months ago.

I know that..... You know that..... but there were a very vocal minority who wouldnt shut up about the theory despite all the evidence, citing misdirection and such..... its those folks who im hoping finally pipe down......

 

[Rorywan]

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Another trench run?

This really is just a remake isn't it.

Lone character with droids in desert, dreaming of the future, watching the sky: Check
Dark villain with red lightsaber who is related to a heroic character: Check
Evil planet like space station: Check
Largely unseen puppet master Super villian: Check
Trench Run: Check
Tragic death of main character: Check

Happy with what I've seen so far: Check!
Honestly the best part of the trailer is seeing Ford act. I mean act, properly like Solo. He hasn't done that in years and it's ****ing cool.
My only concern at the moment is sweaty panic boy, that shot of him staggering on tatooine, I mean Jakku... is cheesy as hell, I liked attack the block, but not so sure of his acting ability in this so far.
The music in the trailer is tremendous, and that shot of Rey watching the First order arrive through the treetops is missing I noticed.

I know that..... You know that..... but there were a very vocal minority who wouldnt shut up about the theory despite all the evidence, citing misdirection and such..... its those folks who im hoping finally pipe down......

I am unaware of this very vocal minority, and I dredge the SW sites daily. Anyway!

 

[Asta]

Plus the fact that Adam Driver is half a foot taller than Mark Hamill.

 

[Rorywan]

I find it interesting that while Finn used an American accent, Rey kept her british accent.

She sounds great, not sure about Finn, at all.

 

[Rorywan]

Plus the fact that Adam Driver is half a foot taller than Mark Hamill.

And super skinny!

 

[Asta]

And super skinny!

Here's a funny bit of speculation...

This eerie Kylo Ren theory could change everything about Star Wars: The Force Awakens

By Matt HillMonday, Oct 19 2015, 12:13 BST

WARNING: Spoilers (potentially) could follow...

So, the official Force Awakens poster is here, the trailer's about to drop, and like nearly everyone else, we've lost our minds. But despite what looks like a new Death Star on there, what our brain can't pull away from remains the same: who in the hell IS Kylo Ren?

The mysterious, crucifix-sabred, masked badass played by Girls' Adam Driver dominates the poster as the main figure of the Dark Side and the internet has long rumoured he is either Luke ("Look, no Mark Hamill on the poster despite second billing!"), Luke's son, Han and Leia's son, or just C-3PO in his goth phase. But from what we can see, no-one's speculated it could be Emperor Palpatine's grandson. So let's fix that.

Because while we were collating rumours, a typo led us on to "Ken", a character from a not very well-received '90s Star Wars book series called Jedi Prince. Yet despite the lack of fanfare, his story and timeline is eerily similar to that of Force Awakens. Could this be Kylo Ren?

So, for starters, he's the grandson of the most evil guy in the galaxy and creator of Darth Vader, who's just been defeated when Force Awakens rolls around in the mythology. He's brought up as a goodie, though, by droids in a galaxy far, far away, idolising the adventures of Luke and Han from afar, but his story only really starts after the Battle of Endor (again, timeline seems solid). He then meets and is mastered by Luke in the Jedi arts, while struggling with his dark side because... well, he's Palpatine's grandson. He's clearly a wrong 'un, really.

To be honest, it all sounds pretty much exactly the same as Attack of the Clones, but with Luke and Ken swapped in for Obi-Wan and Anakin. And what did Mr Luke Skywalker, Mark Hamill, first say about the role in the sequels George Lucas had planned? "He said once would I consider playing an Obi-Wan type character handing Excalibur down to the next generation."

Although that never comes to pass in Jedi Prince, as it's too busy filling its pages with heavy-handed environmental messages to kids and droid replicas of Princess Leia (OK that bit sounds kind of cool), it's a pretty ace origins story to tap into if anyone was paying attention.

We fully appreciate we are almost certainly going OTT over a typo, and it would take more explaining and have less obvious emotional heft as being a child of one of the main cast, but hell, if everyone else can speculate - indeed, here are 7 of the craziest rumours so far - so why can't we?

https://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/feature/a674376/this-eerie-kylo-ren-theory-could-change-everything-about-star-wars-the-force-awakens.html#~prEcIM3F5TPk5f



https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ken

 

[Asta]

Flying through the wrecked Star Destroyer is a re-run of flying through the second Death Star.

But flying through the flames is a neat effect:

Just noticed Chewie's bandaged arm. Not as drastic as the machine hand he had in one of the concept art sketches:

 

[CaptnRex]

Who is Rey crying over?

Loved the trailer, pumped.

 

[jye4ever]

Yeah it makes no sense to make him sound like Vader, Vader sounded like that for a reason. This character is hiding

 

[Rorywan]

Here's a funny bit of speculation...




This eerie Kylo Ren theory could change everything about Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Movies Feature - Digital Spy


Ken - Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki - Wikia

There is also a pretty interesting rumour which states that Ren is a clone of Anakin.
After Vader was born in ROTS and Padme died, Vader became obsessed with using the darkside of the force to bring back Padme, he did this secretly, the emperor didn't know, he set up an order called the Knights of Ren (Ren & Padme both mean lotus..apparently). To commune with the dead through the darkside.

So Kylo Ren is one of this order, obsessed with Vader as technically he is his father, and Luke is his biological brother.
I thought this sounded like fun nonsense until I saw the trailer this morning, Ren says "I will finish what you started" to Vader's helmet. We all know Vader's true intent was to save the galaxy, so this doesn't make sense unless Ren is referring to something else?


Anyway it's all good fun. Trailer rocks hard. Tickets booked. I hope Finn can act.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I hope they don't wimp out and make Kylo some kind of a hero. He's a badass. Leave it be.

 

[Rorywan]

I hope they don't wimp out and make Kylo some kind of a hero. He's a badass. Leave it be.

He's somebody's brother, father, uncle, clone, sister, child.

 

[ZE_501]

[...]hope Finn can act.

I don't understand all the worry over Finn's character. I think he'll be portrayed just fine.

Running from a flaming wreck while being pursued? You're going to be messy and out of breath.

Facing a lunatic with a weapon you're not trained to use? You may hyperventilate a bit. He looks pretty composed when heading into combat otherwise.

There's a chance he won't make it out of the encounter with Kylo; but maybe he just gets critically injured. Difficult to see, the future is.


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[Rorywan]

I don't understand all the worry over Finn's character. I think he'll be portrayed just fine.

Running from a flaming wreck while being pursued? You're going to be messy and out of breath.

Facing a lunatic with a weapon you're not trained to use? You may hyperventilate a bit. He looks pretty composed when heading into combat otherwise.

There's a chance he won't make it out of the encounter with Kylo; but maybe he just gets critically injured. Difficult to see, the future is.


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i had no worries until the trailer this morning. I liked him a lot in Attack The Block.
But that shot of him on the sand dune staggering and the the following shot were grating in an otherwise stellar trailer. He's doing lots of glances, looks and reactions with little or no dramatic dialogue as of yet. I hope there isn't a reason for that. And his accents not great. Rey sounds awesome.

 

[Cixx]

 

[ZE_501]

i had no worries until the trailer this morning. I liked him a lot in Attack The Block.
But that shot of him on the sand dune staggering and the the following shot were grating in an otherwise stellar trailer. He's doing lots of glances, looks and reactions with little or no dramatic dialogue as of yet. I hope there isn't a reason for that. And his accents not great. Rey sounds awesome.

I haven't actually seen him in any films. My line of thinking is that Abrams knows about the PT's flaws, wooden acting being amongst them. I can't imagine they would have kept Boyega if he wasn't reading well on screen in the role he was chosen for.

 

[Rorywan]

Yeah, I hope so. Boyega is "london street" in Attack The Block, it seemed a strange thing to get someone so specific in accent and tone and americanise him.
It sometimes works, sometimes not. I ****ing loved everything else so my hopes are high.

 

[Asta]

There is also a pretty interesting rumour...

It's starting to sound feasible...

 

[BuGz]

Damn. I was about to post that too. I like this. Nice detail from JJ