Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2)

[xipotec]

Mark warned him constantly

And still went along with it and took the money......

Which is worse?


Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

 

[Python]

And still went along with it and took the money......

Which is worse?


.....

Well he was already there, remember he was introduced at the end of TFA, and in a manner that he couldn't really not be in the sequel. I presume he had no idea how his character would be handled in the second movie. And when he found out, he probably did genuinely think he could sway a few things, who knows. Or maybe unlike Rian Johnsons Luke, Mark doesn't run away....

 

[ajp4mgs]

I was going to post this clip just to note why it's turned into one of my favorite scenes from the movie:



Then I read some of the comments posted below the video on the full YouTube page. Wow. Now this scene is like my own metaphor for TLJ itself (the Luke elements, more specifically).

What I see is: Luke testing Rey to get a sense for her abilities. His posture is one of completely toying with Rey, knowing that he can get the upper-hand anytime he wants to. He drops his guard, he uses just one hand, his face is stoic, he disarms her when he's had enough . . . he comes across as a total badass to me. Then Rey Force-grabs the lightsaber, both surprising and impressing Luke. His look at the end of the sequence reminds me a little of Vader's "Impressive . . . most impressive!" when Luke surprises him by escaping the carbon freeze. Even then, Luke is always in full control as he braces himself with the Force instead of hitting the ground hard, so he's basically just letting things play out. He's impressed, yes; but he knows that she's no match for him.

But others see: Luke getting punked. I'm blown away by that. Same scene, but two completely opposite interpretations and reactions.

So much about TLJ, and especially how Luke is portrayed, is interpreted in such diametrically opposed ways by different people. I can understand seeing the same exact scenes somewhat differently, but the night-and-day difference in interpretations still surprises me a little. It's like there's two completely different versions of this movie, and which one you got to see was a completely random thing.

Oh well, to the point I wanted to make initially: I love this scene! One of my favorites in the film. Turns out that it's even more interesting to me now for new reasons.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

I was going to post this clip just to note why it's turned into one of my favorite scenes from the movie:



Then I read some of the comments posted below the video on the full YouTube page. Wow. Now this scene is like my own metaphor for TLJ itself (the Luke elements, more specifically).

What I see is: Luke testing Rey to get a sense for her abilities. His posture is one of completely toying with Rey, knowing that he can get the upper-hand anytime he wants to. He drops his guard, he uses just one hand, his face is stoic, he disarms her when he's had enough . . . he comes across as a total badass to me. Then Rey Force-grabs the lightsaber, both surprising and impressing Luke. His look at the end of the sequence reminds me a little of Vader's "Impressive . . . most impressive!" when Luke surprises him by escaping the carbon freeze. Even then, Luke is always in full control as he braces himself with the Force instead of hitting the ground hard, so he's basically just letting things play out. He's impressed, yes; but he knows that she's no match for him.

But others see: Luke getting punked. I'm blown away by that. Same scene, but two completely opposite interpretations and reactions.

So much about TLJ, and especially how Luke is portrayed, is interpreted in such diametrically opposed ways by different people. I can understand seeing the same exact scenes somewhat differently, but the night-and-day difference in interpretations still surprises me a little. It's like there's two completely different versions of this movie, and which one you got to see was a completely random thing.

Oh well, to the point I wanted to make initially: I love this scene! One of my favorites in the film. Turns out that it's even more interesting to me now for new reasons.

A friend of mine were talking about this scene awhile back he came up with nearly the same sentiment. I agree with his and your opinion.

 

[ajp4mgs]

A friend of mine were talking about this scene awhile back he came up with nearly the same sentiment. I agree with his and your opinion.

It's weird that it seems like everyone was given either a blue pill or a red pill version of this movie, and of the different scenes in it. I'm glad that you and your friend got to see the same version I did.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

It's weird that it seems like everyone was given either a blue pill or a red pill version of this movie, and of the different scenes in it. I'm glad that you and your friend got to see the same version I did.

I know, right?!

 

[Neal136]

It looks like Disney has put all of the upcoming standalone films on hold indefinitely.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

From what I've read it sounds like Disney is just taking a break for a year or two. It doesn't surprise me though.

 

[Khev]

Cancelling future "Solo" and Obi-Wan and Fett movies to focus solely on giving fans what they want: a new trilogy written and directed by Rian Johnson. About damn time.

 

[Mogli]

Cancelling future "Solo" and Obi-Wan and Fett movies to focus solely on giving fans what they want: a new trilogy written and directed by Rian Johnson. About damn time.

 

[Magpie 7]

Head of Disney heard humming...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPIdRJlzERo

Looks like Kathleen Kennedy's days are numbered.

 

[Vault Boy]

Rian Johnson is finished. From KK's superiors. "Disney is done experimenting with new or unusual filmmakers."

https://comicbook.com/starwars/2018...uture-colin-trevorrow-phil-lord-chris-miller/

That's good but why they trust them with SW is in the first place? They could've vetoed KK's decisions.

 

[myc]

all BS..

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies...dalone-star-wars-movies-being-placed-on-hold/

 

[Darth Snoopy]

all BS..

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies...dalone-star-wars-movies-being-placed-on-hold/

And that's that.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

I was going to post this clip just to note why it's turned into one of my favorite scenes from the movie:



Then I read some of the comments posted below the video on the full YouTube page. Wow. Now this scene is like my own metaphor for TLJ itself (the Luke elements, more specifically).

What I see is: Luke testing Rey to get a sense for her abilities. His posture is one of completely toying with Rey, knowing that he can get the upper-hand anytime he wants to. He drops his guard, he uses just one hand, his face is stoic, he disarms her when he's had enough . . . he comes across as a total badass to me. Then Rey Force-grabs the lightsaber, both surprising and impressing Luke. His look at the end of the sequence reminds me a little of Vader's "Impressive . . . most impressive!" when Luke surprises him by escaping the carbon freeze. Even then, Luke is always in full control as he braces himself with the Force instead of hitting the ground hard, so he's basically just letting things play out. He's impressed, yes; but he knows that she's no match for him.

But others see: Luke getting punked. I'm blown away by that. Same scene, but two completely opposite interpretations and reactions.

So much about TLJ, and especially how Luke is portrayed, is interpreted in such diametrically opposed ways by different people. I can understand seeing the same exact scenes somewhat differently, but the night-and-day difference in interpretations still surprises me a little. It's like there's two completely different versions of this movie, and which one you got to see was a completely random thing.

Oh well, to the point I wanted to make initially: I love this scene! One of my favorites in the film. Turns out that it's even more interesting to me now for new reasons.

Really great post! I too am very surprised at how some people see and interpret Luke in particular. When the movie had recently come out, one of the Freaks here insisted that Luke was "humiliated" by having to drink the sea cow milk. I didn't remember fully at the time since I had only seen it once, but I responded that I didn't remember that scene as humiliating at all--that it was Luke almost taunting and purposely trying to disgust Rey with his drinking the milk, and further showing how in tune and balanced he had become with the island. Seeing it again on Blu Ray (and the gif that pops up every once in a while), it's definitely Luke trying to disgust Rey so she'll stop following him and bothering him. I don't remember who it was I had the exchange with, but I wonder if he still feels the same.

 

[YoNoSe]

And that's that.

 

[Khev]

Really great post! I too am very surprised at how some people see and interpret Luke in particular. When the movie had recently come out, one of the Freaks here insisted that Luke was "humiliated" by having to drink the sea cow milk. I didn't remember fully at the time since I had only seen it once, but I responded that I didn't remember that scene as humiliating at all--that it was Luke almost taunting and purposely trying to disgust Rey with his drinking the milk, and further showing how in tune and balanced he had become with the island. Seeing it again on Blu Ray (and the gif that pops up every once in a while), it's definitely Luke trying to disgust Rey so she'll stop following him and bothering him. I don't remember who it was I had the exchange with, but I wonder if he still feels the same.

Yep, he didn't want her to see him as a "legend" and was clearly amusing himself in the process of demistifying his persona. I chuckle every time at that scene.

 

[e30ernest]

Yep, he didn't want her to see him as a "legend" and was clearly amusing himself in the process of demistifying his persona. I chuckle every time at that scene.

I think the prank that Luke plays on Rey (pretending the islanders were in danger) should have been a give-away that Luke had been toying with her all along.

 

[crows]

 

[Popnfresh98]

How ironic that one of the mantras of TLJ was "that's how we win, not by fighting what we hate, but saving what we love" and yet Rian Johnson is the most reactionary and antagonistic of all SW directors. I guess he even thought Rose's advice was stupid, lol.

Well Rose's advice WAS stupid... I mean we're talking about a movie in which she suicide rams a guy to stop him from suicide ramming that big ramming thing, while Holdo's suicide ramming of the First Order was being celebrated just moments before.

.....

And I guess in a way you could count what Luke did as a 'suicide run' too

they do the same to Boyega. one guy will have like 5 accounts and will harass boyega with them from time to time. he thinks it is 5 people attacking him.

Damn they playing Boyega too? Too bad, I like him.

I'm usually completely against trolling, but there's just something so ludicrous about a guy sitting at his computer pretending to be 5 guys heckling some big shot celeb, and the celeb actually wastes his time arguing with them. It's so ridiculous

Hottest chick in current star wars
Gets hired to die in just one movie

She wasn't supposed to die in the original script, until they changed it to the 'everybody dies' version. (Which was quite fine, I'm not complaining.)