Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

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Ranking the SW movies? Is that time of the year again?

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Anakin's age in ROTS plays a large role in his fall. He's a prodigy that isn't being treated as one. That conflict with his peers is what allowed Palps to corrupt his moral compass. People that wanted a fully realized warrior [like Obi-Wan was in ROTS] as the Anakin who fell, don't understand that said hypothetical Anakin would have never fallen. He'd be too set in his ways to allow a Sith to twist his mind.

I just keep thinking back to one of the most critical scenes in ROTS, Anakin’s scene with Mace right before Mace departs to arrest Palpatine.

When Mace clearly tells Anakin that if he was right about Palpatine that it would fix Anakin’s relationship with the Jedi Council, was Mace lying to Anakin?

Was Anakin purposely sending Mace to be slaughtered?

Because Anakin’s fall should’ve come to a stop right there the way Lucas wrote it.
 
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I just keep thinking back to one of the most critical scenes in ROTS, Anakin’s scene with Mace right before Mace departs to arrest Palpatine.

When Mace clearly tells Anakin that if he was right about Palpatine that it would fix Anakin’s relationship with the Jedi Council, was Mace lying to Anakin?

Was Anakin purposelessly sending Mace to be slaughtered?

Because Anakin’s fall should’ve come to a stop right there the way Lucas wrote it.
you’re forgetting the whole subplot of padme being pregnant.
 
you’re forgetting the whole subplot of padme being pregnant.

Exactly, the only thing he cared about was saving padme from the fate he saw in his force dream. Ironically after wiping out the jedi temple, he lost sight of all that, became a full blown blood lusting, power hungry sith killing machine and his mission changed from saving padme to taking over the galaxy. Had he not been mortally injured by obiwan, the first thing he would have done upon his return is attempt to kill emperor palpatine. The emperor was lucky obi wan ****ed him up, had he not the emperor's reign would have ended the moment anakin returned. Anakin did not want to play second fiddle, he wanted to be in charge of his new empire. In fact, he carried this dream with him up until ESB which is why he told luke to join him and together they could overthrow the emperor and rule the galaxy as father and son.
 
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RLM still remain masters at destroying new SW and genre movies no words can do this video any justice you just have to experience it for yourself, the raping they give TLJ and JL is just off the charts.

The only thing I wish they would’ve included was for one of them to be surrounded by an increasing amount of SW collectibles everytime you cut back to them until they were completely buried underneath all that SW junk.



Man, I can’t wait for Infinity War 3: part 2: Doctor Strange crossover with Antman:yess:
 
Just admit you liked the gratuitous Porging :lol

As long as it remains gratuitous.

Government and big pharma have already made me brutally full of cynicism so I see no benefit in also turning my consumption of modern cinematic entertainment into another torturous exercise of similar behavior especially when I want to share this stuff with my son.

When I was his age I wasn’t exposed to an everything is crap narrative so my cinema experience was thru very naive sterile eyes.

That is until I walked into a Troma movie in Times Square lol

Now don’t get me wrong I enjoy the lolz between Marvel/DC and SW rankings as much as the next lolcat.
 
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When Mace clearly tells Anakin that if he was right about Palpatine that it would fix Anakin’s relationship with the Jedi Council, was Mace lying to Anakin?

Yes.

Mace and the Council were afraid of him from the moment they met him and identified him as the prophecied Chosen One. Palpatine never lies to Anakin when he speaks of the Jedi. They would never help him reach his full potential because they felt he was too dangerous.

Ironically we're about to find out in TLJ that the Jedi of the Old Republic behaved similarly when they encountered the Chosen One of that era.
 
Yes.

Mace and the Council were afraid of him from the moment they met him and identified him as the prophecied Chosen One. Palpatine never lies to Anakin when he speaks of the Jedi. They would never help him reach his full potential because they felt he was too dangerous.

Ironically we're about to find out in TLJ that the Jedi of the Old Republic behaved similarly when they encountered the Chosen One of that era.

Do you think there will be flashbacks to the Old Republic or will it just be referenced.
 
Exactly, the only thing he cared about was saving padme from the fate he saw in his force dream. Ironically after wiping out the jedi temple, he lost sight of all that, became a full blown blood lusting, power hungry sith killing machine and his mission changed from saving padme to taking over the galaxy. Had he not been mortally injured by obiwan, the first thing he would have done upon his return is attempt to kill emperor palpatine. The emperor was lucky obi wan ****ed him up, had he not the emperor's reign would have ended the moment anakin returned. Anakin did not want to play second fiddle, he wanted to be in charge of his new empire. In fact, he carried this dream with him up until ESB which is why he told luke to join him and together they could overthrow the emperor and rule the galaxy as father and son.

Yeah, the ROTS game has a cool alternate ending which would have been much better if possible:

 
Jedi were afraid of human emotion, and anakin was very emotional. Instead of nurturing him to embrace the good aspects of emotion such as love and happiness they told him to reject it and basically to stop caring about those he loved the most. Forcing him to bottle up emotions or to let go of those he cared about led to his mothers brutal death which he felt responsible for because he completely neglected her at the jedi's request. He blamed the jedi ways for all of this, then he saw padme dying and they told him the same stupid advice, just let her die. All of those pent up emotions literally exploded in thier face. The one change i see hapening is that luke will tell rey to embrace her emotions not forsake them or burry them as doing so leads people to explode down the path of the darkside.
 
Regardless of your headcanon, Shaw was Vader.
Anakin was not fine. Hayden's stiff yet whiney portrayal is consistently the most criticized element of those incredibly troubled films.

And the retconned logic that his rushed development is ok because now suddenly this isn't how he became Darth Vader? Even if that was true, why would we want to see that?

Not headcannon look it up it’s actually in the story. Shaw was not Vader. He looked old and worn out. It makes sense for anakin to be younger. Yea he was whiney but he had so much thrusted apon him that he spiraled out of control. The delivery was bad but the build up always made sense. He was treated like crap by the council and fed dreams of his dying wife and who he wanted to save .

Never saw Darth Vader as some old out of shape man who just all of a sudden turns cause he’s ruthless
 
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Not headcannon look it up it’s actually in the story. Shaw was not Vader. He looked old and worn out. It makes sense for anakin to be younger. Yea he was whiney but he had so much thrusted apon him that he spiraled out of control. The delivery was bad but the build up always made sense. He was treated like crap by the council and fed dreams of his dying wife and who he wanted to save .

Never saw Darth Vader as some old out of shape man who just all of a sudden turns cause he’s ruthless

The stay puft marshmallow man.
 
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