Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[Prime Clone]

Shaw works. Christensen works. It all works.

 

[ironwez20]

The worst part of this assignment was having to google Carrot Top.

Holy crap he makes Amy Shumer look like a playboy playmate.

His transformation looks absolutely terrifying.

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[jye4ever]

Spoiler

 

[Wor-Gar]

Sweet Transvestite....






Judge a horse by its teeth...

 

[Sachiel]

Anakin is trans?

 

[Biojex]

His eyelashes don't lie

 

[ironwez20]

So much nope.
All of your examples are taken extremely out of context and don't hold up at all. The biggest problem being that you cannot see the difference between over-confident power moves (Vader) and complete lack of any emotional control or maturity (Anakin). In every single case you listed Vader easily could have lost his patience and had an Anakin-esqe hissy fit like Kylo Ren. (Actually the prequels would serve as a much better origin story for someone like him). But Vader remained cool and in control of his use of power the entire time. You are clearly stretching here.


So you are saying that the prequels serve as an effective origin story to a classic character by showing a younger version of the character that is nothing at all like the one we know at any point, with no shared personality traits or dispositions, and then having any of the development that may link the two up occurring completely off screen?

How about just making an origin story that tells the full development on screen using a believable young version of the character that we can actually recognize?

You also seem to be held up on this old man thing. The whole point of ROTJ is that Vader is past his prime and Palpatine is trying to replace him. Regardless, it's not really a debatable point since the portrayal did happen. Shaw is Vader. Vader being an old man in ROTJ is just a fact that cannot be reasoned around.

No it makes sense when they showed Hayden as a force ghost cause that is what the Jedi anakin looked like. Again the comics and extended lore touch up on why Vader is the way he is. People change.

 

[Prime Clone]

The moral is, die young - or turn to the dark side young, before turning back - and leave a good-looking ghost!

 

[jye4ever]

Judge a horse by its teeth...

 

[DiFabio]

If SNIKT is correct, it's gonna be funny when all the people that were pleasuring themselves to Rey come to the realization that she's just Anakin reincarnated.


They've been ****ing to Hayden Christensen the whole time! That's the real twist!

 

[RIDDICK]

The moral is, die young - or turn to the dark side

 

[Prime Clone]

 

[ShadowX81]

No it makes sense when they showed Hayden as a force ghost cause that is what the Jedi anakin looked like. Again the comics and extended lore touch up on why Vader is the way he is. People change.

Why the hell would the story that the prequels were supposed to be telling happen entirely in comics and extended lore?! That's the real problem right there.

The entire point if the prequels is to link up the story and characters. Not show completely different ones and brush off linking them up as "people change." They don't. Not that much. There is not a single recognizable trait physically or mentally between PT Anakin and Vader.

 

[a-dev]

Exactly. Many people don't even consider anything outside of movies to be canon.

 

[YoNoSe]

I don't get into the comics & whatnot and I don't have a problem associating Anakin with Vader. I think this just falls into "different strokes." I'm not thinking enough, you're overthinking, Dudley got molested in the bike shop....

It's all subjective except for that last one.

 

[DiFabio]

Why the hell would the story that the prequels were supposed to be telling happen entirely in comics and extended lore?! That's the real problem right there.

The entire point if the prequels is to link up the story and characters. Not show completely different ones and brush off linking them up as "people change." They don't. Not that much. There is not a single recognizable trait physically or mentally between PT Anakin and Vader.

Exactly. Many people don't even consider anything outside of movies to be canon.

To be fair, there are supposedly 20 years between ROTS and ANH. There's a lot that could change a man in that time, especially when you've lost two arms, two legs and can't breath on your own without an iron lung and a mask you can never take off. That's not even mentioning the fact that you killed your own pregnant wife. I would imagine there would be a lot of meditation and introspection with such a hellish, claustrophobic lifestyle where you are that compromised and handicapped. That's enough of an excuse to change a headstrong, arrogant young man that complains about being held back to a humbled, wisened, sorcerer that lets his actions speak louder than his words.


Then again, there's inconsistencies between Vader's character in the OT as well. Compare the changes he undergoes from 1977 to 1983. He goes from a right hand man, throw away type of villain, to a sadistic, officer murdering obsessed madman then finally to a meek, pathetic gimp that has no qualms of sacrificing himself so that his own son gets corrupted.


How Anakin acts in Revenge of the Sith (wants to overthrow the Jedi, then kill the Emperor so he can rule the Galaxy the way he wants to) is a lot closer to the Empire Strikes Back Vader than anything in ROTJ. The only difference is, instead of father and son ruling the Galaxy, it would be a husband and wife.

 

[Adolfo]

I hope Groot is in this

 

[YoNoSe]

His thing got burned off by lava fire while his best friend told him how much he loved him. Changes a guy.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Why the hell would the story that the prequels were supposed to be telling happen entirely in comics and extended lore?! That's the real problem right there.

The entire point if the prequels is to link up the story and characters. Not show completely different ones and brush off linking them up as "people change." They don't. Not that much. There is not a single recognizable trait physically or mentally between PT Anakin and Vader.

You must have thought DeNiro was playing Clemenza in Godfather Part II.

 

[DiFabio]

That's true, even as a kid Anakin seemed to hate aliens.