Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

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This part still resonates with me.

Kylo telling Rey screw the dark and light side just burn it all down. Kylo improved for me tremendously.

Same for the very visually striking red guard battle.

While it shouldn’t have been Holdo screw it that scene still has to be one of the most satisfying vehicle moments in all of the SW movies, silence instead of explosion.

Jye I think as time goes on more n more will see this social agenda...some refuse, some are just too stupid but most I think will eventually see it....I wanna now be a Star Wars Shrink...LOL...I just bet some saw a psychiatrist this week because of Disney LOL
 
Lucas isn’t that they guy who made SW Christmas Special, Howard the Duck, Willow, Red Tails, Indy 4, AOTC, JarJar, Sand, Little Annie and No i’m so in love with you.
 
I am going to be completely honest. I loathed this movie it had nothing remotely resembling a sequel to TFA. I am someone who has spent tens of thousands on SW merchandise and gobbled up any literature published. This ruined Star Wars for me I hate You Johnson like sand !!!!!


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They are already leaking scenes from Ep 9 :

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Lucas isn’t that they guy who made SW Christmas Special, Howard the Duck, Willow, Red Tails, Indy 4, AOTC, JarJar, Sand, Little Annie and No i’m so in love with you.

oh yeah...not perfect by any means...but no freakin way would he have changed it like TLJ has...no freakin way
 
They are already leaking scenes from Ep 9 :

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Damn I wish I was better with a computer LOL...That picture is all wrong though...Keep leia but add kids flying on broomsticks that shoot freakin laser beams...Have one fat kid on a giant big broom that has a bomb underneath it
 
Damn I wonder if Kennedy watched Harry Potter before making Star Wars Decisions
 


Dude is PISSED.


I STILL say a Jedi would never give up. But that's old school.

Kennedy and Johnson never should have ****ed with the legacy of Luke Skywalker. When Mark Hamill, the Godfather of SW, is publicly renouncing your bull**** story decisions you know you're in trouble.

I say Johnson is getting the boot. Kennedy is a tougher adversary.
 
Jye I think as time goes on more n more will see this social agenda...some refuse, some are just too stupid but most I think will eventually see it....I wanna now be a Star Wars Shrink...LOL...I just bet some saw a psychiatrist this week because of Disney LOL

Oh I see it and it certainly could’ve been handled better but honestly Adolfo social engineering in cinema has really no bearing or meaningful impact in my life.

It’s just a movie that cost me a hundred bucks when all is said and done.

Men and women, whites and blacks, conservatives and liberals, khev and difabio, jews and arabs will still be fighting it out until the end of time itself.

Meh.
 
Rather than getting caught up in ideology, perhaps it would be clearer to explain why the propaganda of this film is so nauseating without directly mentioning feminism:

The film crosses a threshold where it doesn't just promote inclusivity or egalitarianism, but is overtly anti-male. This franchise was originally used to market toys to male children. Think about that. Male kids who didn't know anything about gender or politics, were raised by parents who took them to see these movies, then bought them these toys. Lucas Film MARKETED this franchise to young men. It was about men, celebrating aspects of manhood within our society. In this new film, rather than expand what had previously been offered to men so that it was aimed at both men and women, completely emasculated every single man in the movie in keeping with some sort of sexist fantasy of a universe where all men are weak, incompetent, naive, aggressive and/or dependent on the wisdom of women to function. It was a bigoted film, although I'm sure Kennedy and Johnson don't see it that way. It was hateful.

Am I angry that the Star Wars universe is no longer solely for men? Hell no. I don't want my younger female family members growing up on Barbie dolls and the like. I wouldn't want my nieces to grow up weak. However, also don't want them growing up with an irrational prejudice toward men.
 
These parts still resonates with me.

Kylo telling Rey screw the dark and light side just burn it all down. Kylo improved for me tremendously.

Same for the very visually striking red guard battle.

Yes even though I liked them all in TFA Kylo, Rey, and Finn all improved tremendously in this film. Even Rey's Mary Sue status was revoked. Her greatest triumph in TFA (catching Luke's saber against the will of the bad guy) was reduced to a comedic and humiliating thump on the back of the head by Snoke. She was powerless against Snoke without Kylo saving her and then when she once again tried to grab Luke's saber from him it was a draw causing the saber to explode. So I gained respect in Kylo's increased ability and appreciation for the fact that Rey was no longer Supergirl (IMO.)

While it shouldn’t have been Holdo screw it that scene still has to be one of the most satisfying vehicle moments in all of the SW movies, silence instead of explosion.

I actually think that Holdo's death would have been too epic even for Ackbar. The only other contender would have been Leia IMO but I understand why they did it with Holdo since the whole point of her arc was that she was supposed to be a clean slate character whose competency was in question.

I didn't mind the feminist messaging if you want to call it that because at the end of the day I don't think that Poe was put in his place by a woman other than his undoubted regret of openly calling Holdo a traitor. Even in retrospect I think that all of his ideas were sound and would have panned out if it weren't for two flukes (the bombs going off prematurely and then that pesky black BB-8 sounding the alarm.)
 
Holdo was Kathleen Kennedy projecting herself into this movie.

I don't even care about Ackbar, but from a writing perspective and respect of the universe, he was a far better option considering how he has proven his courage and valor in the past, rather than just killing him like that and barely mentioning his death. I have seen a lot of fans really pissed about that, even among the ones that liked the movie.

While I don't disagree completely, I think the reason for Holdo was to be an unknown quotient. Poe knew Leia and Akbar nd would be less likely to mutiny against them. He likely had doubts about Holdi's competence.
 
Oh I see it and it certainly could’ve been handled better but honestly Adolfo social engineering in cinema has really no bearing or meaningful impact in my life.

It’s just a movie that cost me a hundred bucks when all is said and done.

Men and women, whites and blacks, conservatives and liberals, khev and difabio, jews and arabs will still be fighting it out until the end of time itself.

Meh.

Youre the best Jye...don't care how bad your Dental work and complexion is
 
When the movie started with a your mama joke I knew we were doomed.
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While I don't disagree completely, I think the reason for Holdo was to be an unknown quotient. Poe knew Leia and Akbar nd would be less likely to mutiny against them. He likely had doubts about Holdi's competence.

Holdon was totally not needed..wasted space...just put AcKbar in her place..Freakin done....yeah Kennedy aka holdon whatever saves the universe....Ackbar was cool even with the small roles he played it would have much more of an emotional impact...besides I like fish and visiting the aquarium LOL...for ex A good death by ship ramming was JJ Star Trek with kirks father...I didn't give a damn about the color purple head...so glad she died
 
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oh man...laughing a lot today...its a good thing since the funeral at regal cinemas on Sat
 
I'm done in this thread.

The constant stream of hate, political and non-political bashing, little to no actual discussion going on of any relevance to the film.

It's just an ugly place now.

I'm so disappointed in this forum.

I can handle people not liking something I like, but this has just gotten out of hand.
 
Yes even though I liked them all in TFA Kylo, Rey, and Finn all improved tremendously in this film. Even Rey's Mary Sue status was revoked. Her greatest triumph in TFA (catching Luke's saber against the will of the bad guy) was reduced to a comedic and humiliating thump on the back of the head by Snoke. She was powerless against Snoke without Kylo saving her and then when she once again tried to grab Luke's saber from him it was a draw causing the saber to explode. So I gained respect in Kylo's increased ability and appreciation for the fact that Rey was no longer Supergirl (IMO.)



I actually think that Holdo's death would have been too epic even for Ackbar. The only other contender would have been Leia IMO but I understand why they did it with Holdo since the whole point of her arc was that she was supposed to be a clean slate character whose competency was in question.

I didn't mind the feminist messaging if you want to call it that because at the end of the day I don't think that Poe was put in his place by a woman other than his undoubted regret of openly calling Holdo a traitor. Even in retrospect I think that all of his ideas were sound and would have panned out if it weren't for two flukes (the bombs going off prematurely and then that pesky black BB-8 sounding the alarm.)

I have a friend who hated men being labeled as incompetent directionless jerks in TLJ.

I gave him some great advice it made him feel better get some control back.

I told him move to Saudi Arabia convert to a wahhabism worshipping muslim and you will immediately gain your status back at the top of his manhood ladder.

I’ve personally witnessed a woman in that culture get knocked out with a punch to the jaw just for speaking out of turn that is the absolute norm to do that.

Another norm if the food isn’t cooked and laundry done by the time the men arrive home the punishment will be severe.

There you go instant manhood remedy for Kathleen Kennedy running SW.

The solution is there if one wants to regain their manhood again now in 2017 don’t even have to travel back to 100AD.
 
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