Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[klwn]

Would you like to see force user flying? Would that be too much eventually?

I honestly think they should be able to fly....not in space of course.

I think it should be possible after reaching a ridiculous level of mastery in the Force. If they can move objects, they should be able to move themselves. Plus they can already fall from ridiculous heights and stop their fall.
Now there is a speed aspect and all that. For example we see how fast Snoke is able to send the hilt back into Rey's head, but it's just a hilt, not a whole body.
Sidious threw those pods at Yoda and they definitely weigh more than a regular body though.

Question is, how do you show it happen? Shouldn't look like a superhero flying or that would be really weird.

 

[Adolfo]

Oh that’s a hit below the belt now.

You sound like Clown now so sorry lol

I can take it...TLJ haters are real men.. hmmf

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Question is, how do you show it happen? Shouldn't look like a superhero flying or that would be really weird.

Initially, like Iron Man learning to fly. Then, floating and moving around, and eventually...maybe like Magneto in the X Men movies. He flies upright standing, not like Superman.

 

[Adolfo]

In the next film every kid will have the same powers like Ang and Korra from the last airbender

 

[jye4ever]

I never left, I'll always be with you, for there is a part of me in you.

I know you don't really like this movie Jye. I can sense it. I've seen your posts, you know this is a bastardization of Luke Skywalker and Star Wars. I mean, come on, you love the Original Trilogy. The original Star Wars films from the 70s and 80s were about victorious hope, the unity binds us all, and overcoming the evil inside yourself. Luke Skywalker was the embodiment of a character archetype that is old as storytelling itself. The characters of the prequels and sequels don't go on a heroes journey. They're bland and boring. Lukes rises up from being a humbled farmboy, pursues knowledge and enlightenment, overcomes despair, becomes a hero and through courage and determination redeems the sins of the ones who came before him. His purpose as a character and as an icon is to personify everything a human should hope to become. The last Jedi destroys this. Skywalker is disgusting. He contemplates suicide, killing his nephew in his sleep, then cries in a cave for a few years while he allows the world around him to crumble. Then, Miss Mary Sue lectures the old fool about responsibility, (just as I said she would months ago) dies and he dies nonsensically. Knowing that, go look at every other plot point and twist in the Last Jedi. The film's sole purpose isn't to push things forward or build upon previous themes. It is reckless subversion for the sake of subversion. It is a deconstruction with no meaning or purpose. It is a cynically assembled soapbox, made by people so arrogant and unappreciative that they would stand atop the legacy of one of film's most quintessential tales just to make an uninsightful, short-sighted point about letting the past die and toss some hamfisted political notes at the captive audience. It is worse than any corporate cash-in or any of the moronic prequels. The Last Jedi is an articulate attack on Star Wars itself and everything it represents. These people had no idea what they were dealing with. The Last Jedi was cinematic manslaughter. If you enjoyed The Last Jedi, you do not care about Star Wars. You don't care about the transcending, timeless power of stories and myths and archetypes. You're just a dog who drools when the bell rings. Star Wars and the adventures of Luke Skywalker and his friends can't be tarnished by anyone, that story was already told, and at most is only one fleeting incarnation of one of humanity's oldest traditions. You can't crush that, but The Last Jedi tried.


Merry Christmas

You had to go and write that before me leaving for the theater tonight didn’t you.

You are an evil evil man making me feel like Anakin all alone on that walkway overlooking the lava.

I kid about you being evil btw because how you protect the OT is quite honorable and quite honestly what you just wrote there can’t be touched not even by a scholar of cinema. Pure magic right there my dear Palpatine friend.

I agree with you about modern cinema all disposable but the superhero stuff is fun for me to see come to life because of no cgi when I was a youngling punk.

I have fun being naughty with liking TLJ because it won’t take the OT away from me.

I need to come clean with you truthly my heart can’t take SW dying.

That’s some painful **** for me to contemplate.

 

[Adolfo]

You had to go and write that before me leaving for the theater tonight didn’t you.

You are an evil evil man making me feel like Anakin all alone on that walkway overlooking the lava.

I kid about you being evil btw because how you protect the OT is quite honorable and quite honestly what you just wrote there can’t be touched not even by a scholar of cinema. Pure magic right there my dear Palpatine friend.

I agree with you about modern cinema all disposable but the superhero stuff is fun for me to see come to life because of no cgi when I was a youngling punk.

I have fun being naughty with liking TLJ because it won’t take the OT away from me.

I ned to be honest here with you truthy my heart can’t take SW dying.

That’s some painful **** for me to contemplate.

Man you guys should meet and get a room ....enough with the sexting

 

[jye4ever]

Man you guys should meet and get a room ....enough with the sexting

 

[Popnfresh98]

It shall be known as... Episode Hate.

hopefully Abrams can at least provide an "Episode Fine."

Star Wars Episode NEIN! No Hope

I think we can all agree that whatever happens, we can definitely count on it being Star Wars.... Episode Whine

Lord knows I'll be front and center, and so will a lot of you punks!

Also I don't think I can read through all this after being away for a day even

 

[Wor-Gar]

I never left, I'll always be with you, for there is a part of me up inside you.

Fixed for better penetration.

 

[jye4ever]

The thread speed is insane lol

 

[Wor-Gar]

OMG that's the new best gif... must be intercut with angry dwarf.

 

[ajp4mgs]

Here's a serious question; for people who didn't like Leia flying in space or Luke's astral projection what new Force powers would you have accepted? Anything? Or have you only ever allowed the Force to do nothing but lift things and manipulate weak minds?

Was Kylo's ability to put Rey to sleep an acceptable new power? Just genuinely curious as to what powers are okay and which ones are "too much."

I was always looking forward to seeing what the Jedi could *really* do when the PT came out and was disappointed that all we got was the lame one-and-done Force sprint in TPM.

For me, it's not about objecting to new Force powers necessarily. It's objecting to new Force powers that don't seem to fit the context of previous canon. I understand the desire to see cool new tricks, but I don't think that's been how the Force was established. I don't think the intent was ever to turn Force users into actual superheroes; it's always had its limits. Personally, I think it's cool that you can't just "jedi mind trick" everyone. I choose to believe there was a purpose to establishing that Luke couldn't use that trick on Jabba, and Qui-Gon couldn't use it on Watto. The limitations keep it from being a cheap way to resolve every problem, or create false drama (Leia).

The prequels, for better or worse, showed us what jedi were like when they were thriving (relative to the OT when Kenobi, Yoda, & Luke were all that was left). If Force users in the new movies suddenly start getting close to invulnerability (or immortality), or merely knowing how to tap deeper into the Force bag of tricks, it's going to be tough to reconcile that with having watched jedi masters be far more vulnerable when their numbers (and inluence) were far greater. Expanding the Force sounds great in theory, but if it grows too much too quickly, it's going to clash logically with previous canon.

When people see Leia's body start to get frosty, they have the right to assume she's exposed to the vacuum of space. When she "wakes up" and starts hovering (pulling/pushing/whatever), the logical conclusion is that whatever is allowing her to breath out there isn't keeping her body from freezing up in a hurry, and wasn't being done consciously. That type of survival mechanism for someone who hadn't demonstrated any Force mastery (or been a jedi) before, can make one wonder how/why so many jedi died without the benefit of that same sort of unconsious "shield."

I think expanding the Force would be acceptable to most people if it "fit" better within the limits hinted at in previous films. I'm one of those who doesn't object to Luke's astral projection. It took great effort (obviously), and can be viewed as being somewhat similar to the earlier Force ghosts showing up any time and any where. Sure, this version was more "solid" than those, but the ghosts at least established that a spiritual essence could manifest a bodily form. It's less of a leap, for me at least.

 

[jal76]

The Birth of a Nation was just a movie. I don't know what all the fuss was about...



And yes, I am comparing The Last Jedi to The Birth of a Nation. It's arguably worse. The Birth of a Nation intermingled bigotry with political ideology to legitimize prejudice toward black people. The Last Jedi intermingled bigotry and political ideology to legitimize prejudice toward men. The difference? TLJ gives us the added bonus of undermining logic and reason, under the guise of impartiality. It's the kind of nonsense that leads to a new Dark Ages. Will this movie alone cause the abandonment of reason? Obviously not, just as The Birth of a Nation didn't cause all racism. It's a symptom, that needs to be addressed and annihilated.

Late to the party on this one but anyone that can compare what Birth of a Nation accomplished in its depictions of African-Americans to what TLJ is doing to "men" is truly clueless...not just about the respective films but about American history and society in general...last I checked men were not being summarily murdered for being men and having those efforts celebrated and encouraged by TLJ or any other movie...this was exactly what was happening in certain parts of the US to African-Americans at the time of Birth of a Nation's release...get a clue my friend.

 

[Darkseed]

Fixed for better penetration.

G Takei voice “ oh my....”

 

[aa909]

Hey I know you're just messing with me but it was actually you who totally missed the point of that post you're referencing. The point was that ESB made only about 60% of ANH's earnings. Inflation is irrelevant when simply discussing percentage drop-offs.

you can't blame me for "missing" your point when you didn't complete your thought in your initial post

The "Next Generation" of Na'vi heroes that will be appearing in Avatar 2.

I don't get it, why would people who disliked TLJ not like Avatar based on the picture you shared? Please complete your thought

 

[Wor-Gar]

Avatar 2 - synopsis:

When Earth's corporate military threatens the Na'vi utopia, its up to a band of rascals from Diver City to stop them and save the Na'vi culture.

 

[aa909]

Hey I know you're just messing with me but it was actually you who totally missed the point of that post you're referencing. The point was that ESB made only about 60% of ANH's earnings. Inflation is irrelevant when simply discussing percentage drop-offs.

Avatar 2 - synopsis:

When Earth's corporate military threatens the Na'vi utopia, its up to a band of rascals from Diver City to stop them and save the Na'vi culture.

LOL!! but joking aside I don't judge movies based on cast. Cameron is 1000X better as a story teller than RJ and KK have proven to be. but if Cameron pulls a TLJ then all all bets are off

 

[Lakhota]

I love all these theories now that Rian is genius and Snokes dialog clearly explain Kylo killing him so he can exit that frail body and become more powerful. That Rey does has a past but Kylo is manipulating her, it’s all bullahit speculation just like between 7-8 just cementing the fact he didn’t ****ing answer nothing.


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[Darkseed]

Better yet, forget movies and dolls. Let them die. You're a man Jye. You should take satisfaction of having father and son moments, not get teary eyed about what you perceive as a silly "1977 moment" or a "RO Darth Vader moment" that's really just another modern movie in a barrage of endless pop culture garbage that your son will forget.

When Joe is long gone, I would hope the memories his son has of him are of things like being cheered on by his dad at a sporting event or watching him shave his face or teaching him something or telling him stories of when he was a young lad or advice about girls or the time his dad believed in him when no one else did. You know, real things that your son can hopefully pass down to his kids. You can only bond so much going to see another cynical Disney cash grab propaganda piece with committee agreed upon "moments" that are fun for the whole family.

What would your rather your son remember, the time you taught him how to do something or that time he saw Star Wars Episode 15 where some computer generated aliens tried putting money into a stupid robot?

The most sensible post in the entire thread...

 

[klwn]

I love all these theories now that Rian is genius and Snokes dialog clearly explain Kylo killing him so he can exit that frail body and become more powerful. That Rey does has a past but Kylo is manipulating her, it’s all bullahit speculation just like between 7-8 just cementing the fact he didn’t ****ing answer nothing.


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Haha on the other hand, those theories are my one hope for an Episode IX that will partially redeem VIII.
The Snoke stuff does make sense for JJ to use this way, but yeah, I refuse to say that it was what Rian Johnson had planned all along. In that guy's mind, Snoke is well and truly dead, that's for sure.