Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[JAWS]

But a lot of that is being silly-picky with Luke (30 minutes on Dagobah - are you serious?) while allowing books and your own conjecture to back up Rey.

It's clear that Luke is a great pilot, both in ANH and in the filmed/cut ANH scenes. Biggs tells Luke: "You may be the hottest bushpilot this side of Mos Eisley..." Ben says to Luke re: his father: "He was the best star-pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior. I understand you've become quite a good pilot yourself." In the conversation with Han, Han mocks Luke saying "Who's going to pilot it kid, you?" to which Luke responds "You bet I could. I'm not such a bad pilot myself!"

So... it's 100% clear that Luke's a talented pilot.

Re: time and abilities between ESB and ROTJ. When we meet Luke on Tatooine in ROTJ, he's dressed in black and carries himself WAY differently than he does at any time in ESB. He's confident, cocky even, mocking Jabba, much more a badass than we've ever seen before. He has a new lightsaber he built himself (confirmed onscreen by vader later.) He pretty much single handedly takes out dozens of Jabba's henchmen and destroys everything. This isn't at all something Luke could have done in ESB.

The problem with Rey is that it's 100% clear in the way it's shot that only about a week or so passes between Rey playing with a helmet on Jakku and her mincing up those Snoke guards. There's no wiggle room to explain it. This is precisely where this "Mary Sue" thing comes from.

How Rey can not only fly the Falcon, but out-fly TIE fighters in it, going through tunnels etc - as a scavenger who doesn't have food - is never even remotely explained in the movie. You can understand her self-defense skills with a pole, but a lightsaber? It'd be like handing a street-smart slum dweller a fencing sword. However any of this is explained in the books, it doesn't appear onscreen - which is the only place that matters to most.

Doesn't she even tell Finn in the movie that she does not know how she was able to fly like that???

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

jye right now:

You know, Jet Li would make a good Vegeta.

 

[jye4ever]

Exactly. She is a carefuly constructed image meant to sell a brand to little girls. And kids hate their main characters having faults. So she gets to be perfect.

Even when she get injured in TLJ, its a tiny, perfectly symmetrical scar with just the right size and placement to make her look even cooler. They were never ever going to have her lose a limb like Luke. That wouldn't fit with her princess image.

I think they might still cut an arm or hand off lol

 

[aa909]

This is at least the third video I see of a girl who kinda falls into the "cliché" SJW/feminist type, yet could see right through Kennedy and Johnson's BS. Warms my heart.

LMAO!! her best line is when she says "Rey's perfect, she doesn't need any training, she's just j*zzing the force everywhere" she's freaking awesome

 

[crows]

You know, Jet Li would make a good Vegeta.

 

[EVILFACE]

jye right now:

Average flick, but one of the best endings.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

 

[hoodonit00]

Getting ready to see this. Surprisingly theater is about half full.

 

[crows]

 

[klwn]

Goku and Vegeta, good examples of characters that improve through failure and struggle, and whose natural gifts are still perfectly explained.

 

[Caped Baldy]

William Shatner's meant to have posted this on 4chan. Thought it was a fake but then he confirmed it was him on his twitter.

He regularly trolls the /tv/ section apparently.

 

[crows]

Goku and Vegeta, good examples of characters that improve through failure and struggle, and whose natural gifts are still perfectly explained.

goku is definitely a harry sue

 

[klwn]

goku is definitely a harry sue

Goku fails constantly (even dies) and trains his butt off.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Goku and Vegeta, good examples of characters that improve through failure and struggle, and whose natural gifts are still perfectly explained.

Yes.

goku is definitely a harry sue

No way.

 

[aa909]

William Shatner's meant to have posted this on 4chan. Thought it was a fake but then he confirmed it was him on his twitter.

He regularly trolls the /tv/ section apparently.

that's not surprising coming from a sexist, misogynistic, womanizing, toxic male.

 

[Spartan Rex]

I think you guys are wasting your time tryin' to point out obvious problems this cinematic travesty has.
Those who liked it won't listen, at least not now. Those who didn't like it already said their word.
Let these seagulls have their fun time in peace. Be better than that.

Wow, who hijacked Riddicks account?!
Someone calm almost reasonable and verging on positive is using his screen name!
Are the mods looking into this?

 

[crows]

that's not surprising coming from a sexist, misogynistic, womanizing, toxic male.

im gonna burn all my star trek collectibles. i had no idea

 

[Wor-Gar]

I hope its Shatner.

#metoo

 

[Spartan Rex]

that's not surprising coming from a sexist, misogynistic, womanizing, toxic male.

Yup, that's what makes him awesome:


The future is in good hands.

 

[Wor-Gar]

"the future belongs to brown people".....