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Having just watched the OT over this week...I can tell you there are a ton of similar issues in those films.....plot holes? Only about a bazillion.....but it was seen though children’s eyes so we overlooked it....after 40 years those holes were filled in and expanded. And many were outright forgiven due to effect it had on us as children.
The original films had a linear plot that involved character arcs. The new trilogy is all over the place. The original trilogy involved graphic design by Ralph McQuarrie that broke convention, altering how we perceive fiction. It was so unusual that there were no other films capable of competing with Star Wars merchandise, so toy companies literally had to create narratives for toys from their offices because character design wasn't taken seriously as a commodity in Hollywood. Star Wars was so influential that it drove innovation. Some countries actually had to rethink censorship in seeing the effect on innovation Star Wars had.
A film is art, art is subjective...and lends itself to interpretation. There for us IS subjective. You speak from an angle I understand...that everything must be logical and orderly ....and have full explanations that are satisfying to your sensibilities.
Yes and no. Aesthetics are subjective in terms of taste, and stipulated meaning. However, art has certain functional prerequisites if you want to communicate. Stories are a form of communication. It's as much a craft, as it is an art. You can't just abandon the English language and tell a story, for example, with your own made up jibberish. Saying, "Snoggle flot biglady bop!" is not a functional statement, despite the fact that aesthetics are subjective. The original trilogy wasn't perfect, but it had a strong, linear plot that also paralleled theories by an academic named Joseph Campbell regarding mythology. George Lucas was heavily influenced by these theories, in attempting to access ideas that transcended our differences, arriving at a "human condition". He succeeded. The new trilogy? It was just bad writing.
Dogmatic and absurd ideology? According to what scale? And what moral center? Yours?
Morality doesn't exist. All moral claims are false, and all ideology is dogmatic and absurd. If you make a claim about the world, including the claim "Morality exists", you have a burden of proof. There is no evidence to suggest that morality exists.
Meanwhile, if I tell you, "You have a moral obligation to refrain from being self-sufficient", or "You have a moral obligation to obey authority", it's not enough to say, "Well, we all have different beliefs." Normative beliefs involve you. They're about what people believe are your obligation to do things. You can't just sit on the sidelines with relativism. You'll be coerced one way or another, so you may as well get your head in the game.
Contradictions and moronic subtext? Again , contradictions do not make something bad....and your “moronic subtext” is again a judgement you made, while others did not.
In logic, contradictions are false. In fiction, like logic, you need consistency (as opposed to contradiction) in order to maintain the suspension of disbelief. Otherwise, if you see a puzzle piece that doesn't fit into the picture, you realize you're looking at a picture. You might not notice the piece doesn't fit, but for anyone who does... it's a problem.
As for moronic subtext, again, you can make claims about moral theories. For instance, if the internal logic of a theory is contradictory, or there's no evidence to suggest it reflects reality.