Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

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Now I know how Luke felt after listening to Kylo Ren's speech. :monkey1

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I feel like there is a great siege at the castle wall: TLJ lovers are inside the castle while the masses of non-lovers are outside. The siege will be long. But the non-lovers are numerous and growing in numbers. The lovers inside are insolated and being protected by their King (Disney), their love supported by misinformation and propaganda... but they are slowly running out of supplies (excuses). It will be a long, long siege through a bitter winter...but in time the wall will fall.

Bring it down, Bring it down!

Ohhh the drama has returned.....goodie

lulz
 
Right, because someone is being personally attacked here? :cuckoo:

Once again, grasping at straws.

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Clarification: as long as you're not on the side of the "whiny little b*tches" or "the internet" you are not in violation of any rule.:lecture
 
That’s hilarious! Love it


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That's what khev looks like?...damn...I thought he was better looking...he writes better than he talks too ..oh well..
 
"I just saw TLJ! Alms for the blind. Alms for the blind."
 
What I find hilarious, is how anyone could passionately defend The Last Jedi. I'm hearing the mantra, "The Fandom has to die!" I get it. You dislike that people passionately hate this movie, because you didn't. But if you're not a fan, why do you care that other people hate this movie so much? I mean, you saw the same film I did. Did any of you really like it so much, that you feel as though it needs defending? :lol You'd think we were all bashing Apocalypse Now, A Clockwork Orange, or The Matrix. :lol

I liked the movie Fight Club. A lot of people hated it. At no point would I argue with people on forums for weeks, defending that movie even though I personally thought it was one of the best films ever made. If you hated the plot, dialogue, found the subtext annoying, disagreed with the philosophy behind it, felt that it didn't do the novel justice... Fair enough. If it represents ideas you find abhorrent, like anarchism, I could see why it would be grounds for discussion. If you hate the aesthetics, I get that to.

I think defenders of the film like something many people thought was complete garbage, and are worried that it says something about them; that they're falling short of some elusive standard. You can hear it in some of the arguments on this thread. If you didn't like the film you're "a moron" or "have the IQ of a baked potato". :lol Meanwhile, people who hated the film are mainly focused on this dumpster fire of a trilogy, when not fending off attacks from the insecure hordes of... what do you call them? Fans? No, the fandom has to die. We're fending off people who thought the movie "wasn't that bad". :lol Sounds like the grievances have less to do with enthusiasm for the film, so much as feelings of alienation.
 
Love it when one “fan” calls another person a “fake fan” because their taste differs....

I forgot everyone should see a film and story in the exact same way....


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What I find hilarious, is how anyone could passionately defend The Last Jedi. I'm hearing the mantra, "The Fandom has to die!" I get it. You dislike that people passionately hate this movie, because you didn't. But if you're not a fan, why do you care that other people hate this movie so much? I mean, you saw the same film I did. Did any of you really like it so much, that you feel as though it needs defending? :lol You'd think we were all bashing Apocalypse Now, A Clockwork Orange, or The Matrix. :lol

I liked the movie Fight Club. A lot of people hated it. At no point would I argue with people on forums for weeks, defending that movie even though I personally thought it was one of the best films ever made. If you hated the plot, dialogue, found the subtext annoying, disagreed with the philosophy behind it, felt that it didn't do the novel justice... Fair enough. If it represents ideas you find abhorrent, like anarchism, I could see why it would be grounds for discussion. If you hate the aesthetics, I get that to.

I think defenders of the film like something many people thought was complete garbage, and are worried that it says something about them; that they're falling short of some elusive standard. You can hear it in some of the arguments on this thread. If you didn't like the film you're "a moron" or "have the IQ of a baked potato". :lol Meanwhile, people who hated the film are mainly focused on this dumpster fire of a trilogy, when not fending off attacks from the insecure hordes of... what do you call them? Fans? No, the fandom has to die. We're fending off people who thought the movie "wasn't that bad". :lol Sounds like the grievances have less to do with enthusiasm for the film, so much as feelings of alienation.

There's a lot of truth to the above in bold. We're about to pass 200,000 votes on RT, and the numbers speak for themselves. The movie is bad...
 
Love it when one “fan” calls another person a “fake fan” because their taste differs....

I forgot everyone should see a film and story in the exact same way....


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No, you can call yourself a fan if you'd like. However, if you're a fan then it doesn't make sense to complain that "The Fandom has to die", because well... you're a fan. Follow? It's about logical consistency, not whether or not you're a 'true fan'.
 
Marvel and now Star Wars movies are being made for mainstream audiences, not the true fans who’ve sustained them over the years.

The problem with mainstream audiences is they’re fickle and their tastes change.


That's not what they said in the documentary. The documentary explicitly states that the payments to Lucas kept up until the 90's after Hasbro bought Kenner.

From memory I thought it said the payments stopped when that fine print was overlooked by Hasbro after the buyout.

Also the connection between the payments stopping and Lucas announcing the prequels was just thrown in there as a speculative aside, they didn’t really back it up.

I will admit the idea of doing new movies probably got a lot more appealing once Lucas no longer had to hand over 95% of toy revenue.
 
The hive of righteously outraged sure are fretting over the five members who like the movie. :lol

I'm not righteously outraged. There is no such thing as righteous, because good and evil don't exist. I'm just curious about motivation. When someone complains about Star Wars fandom, what's their motivation? Non Star Wars fandom? Mild interest? Doesn't it seem a bit weird to you?
 
No, you can call yourself a fan if you'd like. However, if you're a fan then it doesn't make sense to complain that "The Fandom has to die", because well... you're a fan. Follow? It's about logical consistency, not whether or not you're a 'true fan'.

Yeah that made no sense.....

You wanna tell Cubs fans that they should not be Cubs fans for the past 100 years before they finally brought the World Series home?

People like what they like, and not amount of you “splainin” to them why they are wrong is going to change that...

People love PT, some people even like AOTC....while I hate that film, I am not going to try to convince them into thinking my way.....


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From memory I thought it said the payments stopped when that fine print was overlooked by Hasbro after the buyout.

Also the connection between the payments stopping and Lucas announcing the prequels was just thrown in there as a speculative aside, they didn’t really back it up.

I will admit the idea of doing new movies probably got a lot more appealing once Lucas no longer had to hand over 95% of toy revenue.

Yeah, the buyout happened in the 90's. The payments stopped after that. I checked the documentary. The article I linked earlier and the documentary both suggest that Lucas was inspired to do the PT when he realized the earning potential from the merchandise. The timing is certainly suspect, but discussion of the PT would have also been part of the renegotiation. The announcement of the PT happened between when Hasbro lost the license, and repurchased it when Lucas started a bidding war that Hasbro eventually won.
 
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Clarification: as long as you're not on the side of the "whiny little b*tches" or "the internet" you are not in violation of any rule.:lecture
My point stands. I don’t really know what this trite has to do with it. No one was personally attacked. Although, I’ve seen a few subliminal instances of it going on in this thread.

Stating that a portion of the movie going crowd has a low IQ is the equivalent of saying the world is full of idiots. Nothing more. If someone takes offense, I guess that’s their problem. I think that says more about them than it does those that are defending the film.
 
My point stands. I don’t really know what this trite has to do with it. No one was personally attacked. Although, I’ve seen a few subliminal instances of it going on in this thread.

Stating that a portion of the movie going crowd has a low IQ is the equivalent of saying the world is full of idiots. Nothing more. If someone takes offense, I guess that’s their problem. I think that says more about them than it does those that are defending the film.

Yeah but the implication was that the portion that liked it has the low IQ wasn’t it?


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Yeah that made no sense.....

You wanna tell Cubs fans that they should not be Cubs fans for the past 100 years before they finally brought the World Series home?

People like what they like, and not amount of you “splainin” to them why they are wrong is going to change that...

People love PT, some people even like AOTC....while I hate that film, I am not going to try to convince them into thinking my way.....


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No one's telling you not to like the film. You're proving what I've been saying. People have argued that the film is filled with internal contradictions, plot holes and a moronic subtext involving a dogmatic and absurd ideology. All of these things are empirical facts, not matters of subjective taste. You can watch a dumpster fire because the flames are pretty, but it's still a dumpster fire.

Like what you want. If you believe that tastes are subjective, you agree with me that people who claim "The Fandom has to die" are being strange. Right? In your words, "People like what they like, and not amount of you “splainin” to them why they are wrong is going to change that..." So you agree.
 
Box Office: 'Jumanji'
Overtakes 'Star Wars: The
Last Jedi' on New Year's Day


Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-jumanji-overtakes-star-wars-last-jedi-new-years-day-1070976

Sony's holiday hit Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle
overtook Star Wars: The Last Jedi for the first time on
New Year's Day, earning $16.2 million in North America.

That compares to $14.5 million for Disney and
Lucasfilm's The Last Jedi.

At the same time, Last Jedi beat Jumanji for the weekend with an estimated $67 million, pushing the
tentpole's global total to $1.067 billion, including $531.9 million domestically.

Jumanji, performing far better than expected since hitting theaters Dec. 20, has grossed $185.6 million
to date in North America for a worldwide cume approaching $350 million. Its domestic earnings
for the four-day holiday weekend were $66.3 million.
 
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