jye4ever
Broke and happy
No, this is Jye...
lulz
Now I know how Luke felt after listening to Kylo Ren's speech.
Bring it down, Bring it down!
lulz
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)
- Thread starter CallMeTheDoctor
- Start date
Help Support Collector Freaks Forum:
- Status
lulz
Bring it down, Bring it down!
lulz
Right, because someone is being personally attacked here?
Once again, grasping at straws.
Clarification: as long as you're not on the side of the "whiny little b*tches" or "the internet" you are not in violation of any rule.
- Joined
- Nov 10, 2010
- Messages
- 11,044
- Reaction score
- 15
That's what khev looks like?...damn...I thought he was better looking...he writes better than he talks too ..oh well..
- Joined
- Sep 24, 2016
- Messages
- 482
- Reaction score
- 8
What I find hilarious, is how anyone could passionately defend The Last Jedi. I'm hearing the mantra, "The Fandom has to die!" I get it. You dislike that people passionately hate this movie, because you didn't. But if you're not a fan, why do you care that other people hate this movie so much? I mean, you saw the same film I did. Did any of you really like it so much, that you feel as though it needs defending? You'd think we were all bashing Apocalypse Now, A Clockwork Orange, or The Matrix.
I liked the movie Fight Club. A lot of people hated it. At no point would I argue with people on forums for weeks, defending that movie even though I personally thought it was one of the best films ever made. If you hated the plot, dialogue, found the subtext annoying, disagreed with the philosophy behind it, felt that it didn't do the novel justice... Fair enough. If it represents ideas you find abhorrent, like anarchism, I could see why it would be grounds for discussion. If you hate the aesthetics, I get that to.
I think defenders of the film like something many people thought was complete garbage, and are worried that it says something about them; that they're falling short of some elusive standard. You can hear it in some of the arguments on this thread. If you didn't like the film you're "a moron" or "have the IQ of a baked potato". Meanwhile, people who hated the film are mainly focused on this dumpster fire of a trilogy, when not fending off attacks from the insecure hordes of... what do you call them? Fans? No, the fandom has to die. We're fending off people who thought the movie "wasn't that bad". Sounds like the grievances have less to do with enthusiasm for the film, so much as feelings of alienation.
You'd think we were all bashing Apocalypse Now, A Clockwork Orange, or The Matrix. I liked the movie Fight Club. A lot of people hated it. At no point would I argue with people on forums for weeks, defending that movie even though I personally thought it was one of the best films ever made. If you hated the plot, dialogue, found the subtext annoying, disagreed with the philosophy behind it, felt that it didn't do the novel justice... Fair enough. If it represents ideas you find abhorrent, like anarchism, I could see why it would be grounds for discussion. If you hate the aesthetics, I get that to.
I think defenders of the film like something many people thought was complete garbage, and are worried that it says something about them; that they're falling short of some elusive standard. You can hear it in some of the arguments on this thread. If you didn't like the film you're "a moron" or "have the IQ of a baked potato".
Meanwhile, people who hated the film are mainly focused on this dumpster fire of a trilogy, when not fending off attacks from the insecure hordes of... what do you call them? Fans? No, the fandom has to die. We're fending off people who thought the movie "wasn't that bad". Sounds like the grievances have less to do with enthusiasm for the film, so much as feelings of alienation.
- Joined
- Sep 8, 2006
- Messages
- 16,370
- Reaction score
- 526
The hive of righteously outraged sure are fretting over the five members who like the movie.
What I find hilarious, is how anyone could passionately defend The Last Jedi. I'm hearing the mantra, "The Fandom has to die!" I get it. You dislike that people passionately hate this movie, because you didn't. But if you're not a fan, why do you care that other people hate this movie so much? I mean, you saw the same film I did. Did any of you really like it so much, that you feel as though it needs defending?
I liked the movie Fight Club. A lot of people hated it. At no point would I argue with people on forums for weeks, defending that movie even though I personally thought it was one of the best films ever made. If you hated the plot, dialogue, found the subtext annoying, disagreed with the philosophy behind it, felt that it didn't do the novel justice... Fair enough. If it represents ideas you find abhorrent, like anarchism, I could see why it would be grounds for discussion. If you hate the aesthetics, I get that to.
I think defenders of the film like something many people thought was complete garbage, and are worried that it says something about them; that they're falling short of some elusive standard. You can hear it in some of the arguments on this thread. If you didn't like the film you're "a moron" or "have the IQ of a baked potato".
There's a lot of truth to the above in bold. We're about to pass 200,000 votes on RT, and the numbers speak for themselves. The movie is bad...
- Joined
- Sep 24, 2016
- Messages
- 482
- Reaction score
- 8
No, you can call yourself a fan if you'd like. However, if you're a fan then it doesn't make sense to complain that "The Fandom has to die", because well... you're a fan. Follow? It's about logical consistency, not whether or not you're a 'true fan'.
Prime Clone
Super Freak
Marvel and now Star Wars movies are being made for mainstream audiences, not the true fans who’ve sustained them over the years.
The problem with mainstream audiences is they’re fickle and their tastes change.
From memory I thought it said the payments stopped when that fine print was overlooked by Hasbro after the buyout.
Also the connection between the payments stopping and Lucas announcing the prequels was just thrown in there as a speculative aside, they didn’t really back it up.
I will admit the idea of doing new movies probably got a lot more appealing once Lucas no longer had to hand over 95% of toy revenue.
The problem with mainstream audiences is they’re fickle and their tastes change.
From memory I thought it said the payments stopped when that fine print was overlooked by Hasbro after the buyout.
Also the connection between the payments stopping and Lucas announcing the prequels was just thrown in there as a speculative aside, they didn’t really back it up.
I will admit the idea of doing new movies probably got a lot more appealing once Lucas no longer had to hand over 95% of toy revenue.
- Joined
- Sep 24, 2016
- Messages
- 482
- Reaction score
- 8
The hive of righteously outraged sure are fretting over the five members who like the movie.
I'm not righteously outraged. There is no such thing as righteous, because good and evil don't exist. I'm just curious about motivation. When someone complains about Star Wars fandom, what's their motivation? Non Star Wars fandom? Mild interest? Doesn't it seem a bit weird to you?
Yeah that made no sense.....
You wanna tell Cubs fans that they should not be Cubs fans for the past 100 years before they finally brought the World Series home?
People like what they like, and not amount of you “splainin” to them why they are wrong is going to change that...
People love PT, some people even like AOTC....while I hate that film, I am not going to try to convince them into thinking my way.....
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Last edited:
- Joined
- Sep 24, 2016
- Messages
- 482
- Reaction score
- 8
Yeah, the buyout happened in the 90's. The payments stopped after that. I checked the documentary. The article I linked earlier and the documentary both suggest that Lucas was inspired to do the PT when he realized the earning potential from the merchandise. The timing is certainly suspect, but discussion of the PT would have also been part of the renegotiation. The announcement of the PT happened between when Hasbro lost the license, and repurchased it when Lucas started a bidding war that Hasbro eventually won.
DarthBakura
Super Freak
My point stands. I don’t really know what this trite has to do with it. No one was personally attacked. Although, I’ve seen a few subliminal instances of it going on in this thread.
Clarification: as long as you're not on the side of the "whiny little b*tches" or "the internet" you are not in violation of any rule.
Stating that a portion of the movie going crowd has a low IQ is the equivalent of saying the world is full of idiots. Nothing more. If someone takes offense, I guess that’s their problem. I think that says more about them than it does those that are defending the film.
Yeah but the implication was that the portion that liked it has the low IQ wasn’t it?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
- Joined
- Sep 24, 2016
- Messages
- 482
- Reaction score
- 8
No one's telling you not to like the film. You're proving what I've been saying. People have argued that the film is filled with internal contradictions, plot holes and a moronic subtext involving a dogmatic and absurd ideology. All of these things are empirical facts, not matters of subjective taste. You can watch a dumpster fire because the flames are pretty, but it's still a dumpster fire.
Like what you want. If you believe that tastes are subjective, you agree with me that people who claim "The Fandom has to die" are being strange. Right? In your words, "People like what they like, and not amount of you “splainin” to them why they are wrong is going to change that..." So you agree.
no implication, he flat out said it LOL!!
Captain Clown
King of the Wicker People
- Joined
- Jun 1, 2013
- Messages
- 8,844
- Reaction score
- 4,076
Box Office: 'Jumanji'
Overtakes 'Star Wars: The
Last Jedi' on New Year's Day
Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-jumanji-overtakes-star-wars-last-jedi-new-years-day-1070976
Sony's holiday hit Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle
overtook Star Wars: The Last Jedi for the first time on
New Year's Day, earning $16.2 million in North America.
That compares to $14.5 million for Disney and
Lucasfilm's The Last Jedi.
At the same time, Last Jedi beat Jumanji for the weekend with an estimated $67 million, pushing the
tentpole's global total to $1.067 billion, including $531.9 million domestically.
Jumanji, performing far better than expected since hitting theaters Dec. 20, has grossed $185.6 million
to date in North America for a worldwide cume approaching $350 million. Its domestic earnings
for the four-day holiday weekend were $66.3 million.
Overtakes 'Star Wars: The
Last Jedi' on New Year's Day
Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-jumanji-overtakes-star-wars-last-jedi-new-years-day-1070976
Sony's holiday hit Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle
overtook Star Wars: The Last Jedi for the first time on
New Year's Day, earning $16.2 million in North America.
That compares to $14.5 million for Disney and
Lucasfilm's The Last Jedi.
At the same time, Last Jedi beat Jumanji for the weekend with an estimated $67 million, pushing the
tentpole's global total to $1.067 billion, including $531.9 million domestically.
Jumanji, performing far better than expected since hitting theaters Dec. 20, has grossed $185.6 million
to date in North America for a worldwide cume approaching $350 million. Its domestic earnings
for the four-day holiday weekend were $66.3 million.
Oh, wait - did I just post a personal attack?
Oh, wait - did I just post a personal attack?
Go cry
- Status
Similar threads
Latest posts
-
-
-
Mars Toys Back to the Future 1/6 Figures- Latest: eighthsamurai
-
InArt: The Lord of the Rings - Aragorn 1:6
- Latest: eighthsamurai
-
1/6 OneToys - League of Legends: Arcane - Boom Girl (Jinx) Collectible Figure- Latest: Earth 616 Collector
