Stephen King's It Remake 2017

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Saw IT today, quite enjoyed IT, best King adaptation in quite some time.

To those saying IT is the best King movie ever, I'm sorry, but The Shining still holds that mantle.

Hard to find fault with the movie, if anything I'd say that some scenes, had they shown more restraint, might have been scarier. Less is more, as they say. But IT was still quite freaky, and I will be purchasing IT in the future.
 
Saw It today and I enjoyed it for the kid cast and Bill Skarsgard as Pennywise. very well acting movie and story. Loved the feel and cinematography but the biggest gripe that makes this movie downfall in my eye is it's just not scary. It has it's creepy moments but totally predictable at that. Felt more drama than horror with 80's kid movie. Good movie but just was disappointed by it not being a complete horror flick and too predictable with the jump scares forced in when some scenes could have been very scary without trying to ram your throats with it. Definitely better than the It Tv mini series but still like both for different reasons. Ready to see the next part even with my gripes.
 
Poor Universal couldn't do with the mummy, frankenstein, dracula and wolfman what WB did with a single clown.

McDonalds sales will increase now lol

If they do it right they could. The thing is that pennywise is feared by many kids. Back in the day kids were scared of him and a lot of them probably still are. Nowadays people think that alien and predator or cool and not scary. Dracula and the old school monsters can be scary but they keep making them action movies.
It felt like a horror movie with a lot of passion put into it. Like they actually wanted you to be creeped out by the movie.

Ps I think McDonald's should change there mascot lmao.
 
Saw IT today, quite enjoyed IT, best King adaptation in quite some time.

To those saying IT is the best King movie ever, I'm sorry, but The Shining still holds that mantle.

Hard to find fault with the movie, if anything I'd say that some scenes, had they shown more restraint, might have been scarier. Less is more, as they say. But IT was still quite freaky, and I will be purchasing IT in the future.

That was a painful post for the Knights of Ni to read.

Who will understand this reference.....
 
The more I think about it, the more I think I phrased it wrong because my problem wasn't with Skarsgard when he was speaking/performing, so much as the supposedly terrifying moments when he'd go flailing after somebody like Elaine Benes on the dance floor. Maybe it works once as a jump scare, but, after the fourth time, it's kind of like "oh, okay. That's kind of your thing, huh? Yeah? Well, uh, that's cool, I guess. Not scary or anything, but you do you, man.":lol For me, I found it far more unsettling when he wasn't front and center trying to be terrifying. **** like him swinging from the chains in the meat refrigerator, partially obscured by the plastic sheeting or on the TV screen along with the group of kids telling Bowers to kill his dad was far more unsettling than him doing his crazed tweaker on bath salts run after everybody, but I guess that's more on the director or the writers than it is on him.

Yea I agree with that. Penny wise was scarier when he wasn't front and center but damn if i didn't love it when he was. The scene he has in the house with all the kids in the kitchen is my favorite scene in the movie. I can't get the image of him doing his dance towards Eddie as Eddie sits there with his busted arm and then it starts talking to Eddie. Then the other kids come in and it starts talking to them. While the scene wasn't scary to me I was completely floored and engrossed in what was happening. Outside of the projector scene I don't think I really found much of anything in this film really that scary, but I did find the film engrossing.


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It has it's creepy moments but totally predictable at that. Felt more drama than horror with 80's kid movie. Good movie but just was disappointed by it not being a complete horror flick and too predictable with the jump scares forced in when some scenes could have been very scary without trying to ram your throats with it.

Completely agreed.

The part with the headless guy was especially predictable. I was baffled by how shocked everyone else in the theatre was at something you could see coming a mile away.

I think the film would have been better if it focused less on those cheesy jumpscares and more on psychological horror.
 
Saw "IT" yesterday. Lots of spoilery talk below...

Saw "IT" yesterday and really enjoyed it. It's effectively creepy and the movie budget
production value really makes for a great looking movie. The child actors in the cast were all great with Ben, Richie, and Beverly especially standing out to me. Bill Skarsgard does his own thing with Pennywise and offers a take on the character that's
quite different from what Tim Curry did.
I had reservations about them moving the setting of the kids' story from the 1950s to the 1980s, but for this adaptation it works.
One of the other things I liked about this new movie were the areas from the book that were not represented in the old miniseries that are introduced here. Patrick Hockstetter for instance (although he has a much more substantial role in the book). Also, the Derry Iron Works Easter tragedy and the Black Spot club incident are given a little time, and even the Bradley gang massacre gets a mention.
Probably the best part of the book that was omitted in the miniseries but is present here is the old house on Neibolt Street. It was such an important part of the book and they did a terrific job of making it just as atmospheric.
Having said all that, if I had to make a judgement on which adaptation (the new movie or the miniseries) was a closer literal adaptation to the book, I'd still have to go with the miniseries. Yes, the miniseries appears somewhat dated and also leaves out quite a bit from the novel, but what is there, onscreen, is very faithful to the book.
One scene from the book that I was hoping for that hasn't appeared in either screen adaptation was the club house smoke vision flashback which describes Pennywise's arrival in our world. Maybe it will show up in the sequel.
My only other complaints would be the handling of the Mike Hanlon and Henry Bower's characters. In regards to Mike Hanlon, what time he is given is perfectly fine, but he isn't given much to do. They also largely omit his family's attachment to the town (especially his dad's, who is already dead in this version). Most of Mike's own interest in the town history is shifted over to Ben's character which may make his character being the only one to stay in Derry, his whole life, a little bit tougher sell in the sequel.
Again, with Henry Bower's, most of his screen time is well executed. They even put in the scene from the book where Pennywise mails him a knife and he uses it to kill Butch Bowers (who is a cop in this for some reason?). Where I take exception to Henry's arc in this movie is how it ends. He seems to have taken a fatal plunge into the Derry sewers here. I hope I'm wrong, and if I am, then it's not really a problem. But if his character really has been written out of the story, already, then they're lopping off a pretty significant part that adult Henry plays in the later chapters of the book.
Additionally, the relationship between Mike and Henry's families is also a lot more involved and the bad blood goes back a long time. It's touched on in the new movie (even more so than the miniseries), but I wished they would have been able to go into a little more detail. Butch Bowers, specifically, is such a crazy person himself, that his treatment of Henry has a tremendous effect on why Henry is the way he is. And while in the book it could be argued that Patrick Hockstetter is even more messed up than Henry, Henry is the more important character. So I could see where it could have been necessary to eliminate Patrick's background for time, but really more of Henry's background should have been there.
My few complaints aside, I really did enjoy this new version of "IT." And there were some changes for the movie that I thought actually worked quite well. Some of the forms that Pennywise takes in the new movie to terrorize the kids I think were scarier than a lot of the ones that he uses in the novel.
Having Bill actually searching for Georgie rather than knowing for certain that he was dead was an interesting choice and provided a different motivation for his and the child characters to be down at the Barrons.
Overall, I thought this new adaptation of "IT" effectively captured the spirit of the book, and I look forward to seeing the follow up movie to tell the second half of the story.
 
Saw "IT" yesterday. Lots of spoilery talk below...

Saw "IT" yesterday and really enjoyed it. It's effectively creepy and the movie budget
production value really makes for a great looking movie. The child actors in the cast were all great with Ben, Richie, and Beverly especially standing out to me. Bill Skarsgard does his own thing with Pennywise and offers a take on the character that's
quite different from what Tim Curry did.
I had reservations about them moving the setting of the kids' story from the 1950s to the 1980s, but for this adaptation it works.
One of the other things I liked about this new movie were the areas from the book that were not represented in the old miniseries that are introduced here. Patrick Hockstetter for instance (although he has a much more substantial role in the book). Also, the Derry Iron Works Easter tragedy and the Black Spot club incident are given a little time, and even the Bradley gang massacre gets a mention.
Probably the best part of the book that was omitted in the miniseries but is present here is the old house on Neibolt Street. It was such an important part of the book and they did a terrific job of making it just as atmospheric.
Having said all that, if I had to make a judgement on which adaptation (the new movie or the miniseries) was a closer literal adaptation to the book, I'd still have to go with the miniseries. Yes, the miniseries appears somewhat dated and also leaves out quite a bit from the novel, but what is there, onscreen, is very faithful to the book.
One scene from the book that I was hoping for that hasn't appeared in either screen adaptation was the club house smoke vision flashback which describes Pennywise's arrival in our world. Maybe it will show up in the sequel.
My only other complaints would be the handling of the Mike Hanlon and Henry Bower's characters. In regards to Mike Hanlon, what time he is given is perfectly fine, but he isn't given much to do. They also largely omit his family's attachment to the town (especially his dad's, who is already dead in this version). Most of Mike's own interest in the town history is shifted over to Ben's character which may make his character being the only one to stay in Derry, his whole life, a little bit tougher sell in the sequel.
Again, with Henry Bower's, most of his screen time is well executed. They even put in the scene from the book where Pennywise mails him a knife and he uses it to kill Butch Bowers (who is a cop in this for some reason?). Where I take exception to Henry's arc in this movie is how it ends. He seems to have taken a fatal plunge into the Derry sewers here. I hope I'm wrong, and if I am, then it's not really a problem. But if his character really has been written out of the story, already, then they're lopping off a pretty significant part that adult Henry plays in the later chapters of the book.
Additionally, the relationship between Mike and Henry's families is also a lot more involved and the bad blood goes back a long time. It's touched on in the new movie (even more so than the miniseries), but I wished they would have been able to go into a little more detail. Butch Bowers, specifically, is such a crazy person himself, that his treatment of Henry has a tremendous effect on why Henry is the way he is. And while in the book it could be argued that Patrick Hockstetter is even more messed up than Henry, Henry is the more important character. So I could see where it could have been necessary to eliminate Patrick's background for time, but really more of Henry's background should have been there.
My few complaints aside, I really did enjoy this new version of "IT." And there were some changes for the movie that I thought actually worked quite well. Some of the forms that Pennywise takes in the new movie to terrorize the kids I think were scarier than a lot of the ones that he uses in the novel.
Having Bill actually searching for Georgie rather than knowing for certain that he was dead was an interesting choice and provided a different motivation for his and the child characters to be down at the Barrons.
Overall, I thought this new adaptation of "IT" effectively captured the spirit of the book, and I look forward to seeing the follow up movie to tell the second half of the story.


Given that I read the book 30 years ago, I can't remember with certainty what was in the book that didn't make it on screen. Hell, I didn't even recall there was a part of the book where they were adults.
 
Given that I read the book 30 years ago, I can't remember with certainty what was in the book that didn't make it on screen. Hell, I didn't even recall there was a part of the book where they were adults.

The only reason that it's fresh in my mind is that I just read it over the summer. In my case, I saw the old miniseries first. I believe I was in middle school when the miniseries came out, and although there are parts of it that haven't aged that well, I still have a soft spot for it. I remember thinking Tim Curry's version of Pennywise was terrifying, as a kid. And even now, I think his performance still holds up.

After reading the book though and then revisiting the miniseries, I was pretty impressed by how well the miniseries follows the novel. There were definitely some differences, and a lot of things were cut, but overall it follows the book pretty close.

That's not to say the new movie doesn't follow the book. I think it probably takes a few more liberties with things, but it still follows the spirit of the book.

Between the changes the movie makes and the additions from the book that were left out of the miniseries, you could really watch both of them and they wouldn't feel like you were watching the exact same movie.
 
Saw It today and I enjoyed it for the kid cast and Bill Skarsgard as Pennywise. very well acting movie and story. Loved the feel and cinematography but the biggest gripe that makes this movie downfall in my eye is it's just not scary. It has it's creepy moments but totally predictable at that. Felt more drama than horror with 80's kid movie. Good movie but just was disappointed by it not being a complete horror flick and too predictable with the jump scares forced in when some scenes could have been very scary without trying to ram your throats with it. Definitely better than the It Tv mini series but still like both for different reasons. Ready to see the next part even with my gripes.

The fact that it isnt that scary is why the movie is going to succeed so much...

U guys dont get it, if this was terrifying then not so many families would have gone to see it.
 
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