Stephen King's It Remake 2017

[jye4ever]

Beverly was my favorite character.

 

[GasparZizou]

I'm pretty sure it is. Most of the horror we've gotten the past ten years has been considerably below average, so when a plain average horror comes out, it seems great.

I have no doubt it's that.

See for me the movie fell apart on the kids side at my 2nd viewing, that’s not good they are the glue that holds it all together.

Mike, waste.

Ben’s investigation, waste.

Eddie’s parental induced hypochondria, waste.

None of that is wasted.

It's chapter one, remember?

 

[jye4ever]

Chapter Two’s do not concern me Gas-par-il.

 

[GasparZizou]

It's part of the same story tho, it's just too big to put it in one movie, and even with 2, it's very abridged.

All the seeds planted in part one play a part and are resolved in part two, this isn't like Star Wars, a 2 parter was planned from the get go.

Although I agree that Mike was a waste, they avoided his racial stuff and gave him some new traumas with the cattle gun.

Also, I don't know why they made Ben the historian, they basically removed all relevance from Mike, Ben has his own thing with being the fat kid. Mike has the racial thing and the historian thing. smdh tbh fam.

 

[YoNoSe]

I liked how they introduced Mike with his grandfather. He's got more of a stake in defeating Pennywise with the way they're setting up The Black Spot and his grandfather teaching him about taking responsibility and initiative to avoid being preyed upon.

Ben needed a hook besides being fat and pining and he hangs out in the library throughout the book so that transfer makes sense too. I actually prefer bringing in Stan's bar mitzvah in lieu of his birdwatching as a sub-drama.

 

[GasparZizou]

But they neglected to flesh out all racial components of Mike's character, you'd think in today's political mood they'd go all out making him a racial victim, it's pivotal to his character, the black spot incident is meaningless without that.

Maybe you're right about giving Ben the history thing, it's an ok tradeoff, but they left Mike barebones imo.

 

[YoNoSe]

I took Henry's "get out if my town" to be clearly racial. They also mention the Black Spot being burned down by racists.

 

[Biojex]

But they neglected to flesh out all racial components of Mike's character, you'd think in today's political mood they'd go all out making him a racial victim, it's pivotal to his character, the black spot incident is meaningless without that.

Maybe you're right about giving Ben the history thing, it's an ok tradeoff, but they left Mike barebones imo.

You could kind of sense it when Bowers was always ****ing with him. But you're right, they kept it very vague with the whole "outsider" talk. Bowers wasn't really portrayed as the inherent racist that he is. It's like they were tip toeing around it.

 

[jye4ever]

They should’ve created a new subplot by building up the adults in this town belonging to The Cult of Pennywise.

They would’ve been better threats than just having Pennywise turning into a silly looking leper pirate.

I think Pennywise would like being in this town because it would give him a line of defense that couldn’t be weakened even if the kids became brave, it would serve as the reason why Pennywise picked this location.

I thought one of the best parts in the movie was the librarian staring at Ben from behind but that was Pennywise.

I’m thinking more along the lines of adults protecting the evil because they like it and not because they’re under Pennywise’s mind possession control.

 

[crows]

But they neglected to flesh out all racial components of Mike's character, you'd think in today's political mood they'd go all out making him a racial victim, it's pivotal to his character, the black spot incident is meaningless without that.

Maybe you're right about giving Ben the history thing, it's an ok tradeoff, but they left Mike barebones imo.

Tell the truth, u just wanted then to yell the word lol.

 

[YoNoSe]

Tell the truth, u just wanted then to yell the word lol.

That's really all that's missing. Aside from Bowers, in the book no one really antagonizes Mike about his race. And when he hooks up with the other kids it becomes irrelevant.

The racial stuff in the book is almost all historical, from Mike's dad's recollections. And even then it's more about how Pennywise seems to manipulate conflict. IIRC it is ultimately unclear how the fire started at the Black Spot even though white supremecists were there.

And once Mike is grown I think his race only really comes up once when some dummy asks him about the "black experience" in a small town, which he snarks off.

It probably would have been more dramatic to have Henry use a racial slur but I think they made the point as well as was needed.

 

[crows]

Would be kinda funny to see pennywise in clown makeup but dressed as kkk with the hood lol.

 

[YoNoSe]

Would be kinda funny to see pennywise in clown makeup but dressed as kkk with the hood lol.

There's at least one guy here who would cosplay the **** out of that.

 

[GasparZizou]

Would be kinda funny to see pennywise in clown makeup but dressed as kkk with the hood lol.

He was too busy being a giant CROWS.

Tell the truth, u just wanted then to yell the word lol.

Well yeah, it's part of his trauma, it's why their parents were killed, etc etc.

Even not say it if you're afraid people will be offended, but make it clear that he's a victim of racism, they did nothing with it and Mike became irrelevant.

You could kind of sense it when Bowers was always ****ing with him. But you're right, they kept it very vague with the whole "outsider" talk. Bowers wasn't really portrayed as the inherent racist that he is. It's like they were tip toeing around it.

Exactly that.

It was isolated, they tip toed around it, and it's a key part of the character.

 

[crows]

There's at least one guy here who would cosplay the **** out of that.

Who

 

[crows]

He was to busy being a giant CROWS.


Well yeah, it's part of his trauma, it's why their parents were killed, etc etc.

Even not say it if you're afraid people will be offended, but make it clear that he's a victim of racism.



Exactly that.

It was isolated, they tip toed around it, and it's a key part of the character.

A giant CROWS??? Are u threaten me???

 

[GasparZizou]

Who

Please let him say it's me

 

[crows]

Please let him say it's me

Not u my taco hermano another tough guy, one of these tough guys lol

 

[GasparZizou]

Taco hermano I like that.

Just don't call me your "little taco".

 

[crows]

Ok big taco