Statue T-800 Endoskeleton Maquette

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I had this on preorder at an EU dealer, after the Queen was announced I asked him if it was possible to cancel and not lose the deposit, but the more I see of this, the more I like it... Hmm.
 
I had this on preorder at an EU dealer, after the Queen was announced I asked him if it was possible to cancel and not lose the deposit, but the more I see of this, the more I like it... Hmm.

Idk what your looking at bud this looks awful. Thank God I have the original one where it is all medal. This one looks plastic and his teeth looks rotten. I really hope it turns out good for the people whom are buying this because typical side show dropping the ball with quality and paint!!
 
Idk what your looking at bud this looks awful. Thank God I have the original one where it is all medal. This one looks plastic and his teeth looks rotten. I really hope it turns out good for the people whom are buying this because typical side show dropping the ball with quality and paint!!

That original PF might be partly metal, but it didn't look good either.
 
Idk what your looking at bud this looks awful. Thank God I have the original one where it is all medal. This one looks plastic and his teeth looks rotten. I really hope it turns out good for the people whom are buying this because typical side show dropping the ball with quality and paint!!

No offence man but the original looks pretty bad. The details on this are far better IMO, but the paint is a little lacking I agree.

Not sure how this looks plastic to some people though. I've seen that same comment mentioned on Statue Forum too, and I thought it was really odd. What actually makes it 'look plastic'? Serious question, because I can't really tell the material of something just by looking at the painted object. For what it's worth though, Sideshow did confirm to me in an email that it's indeed polystone, and only the smaller pieces like the pistons are plastic.
 
That original PF might be partly metal, but it didn't look good either.

Oh come on Idk about that it looks very good, maybe the teeth but other than that this one is worth a lot that new one looks bad their isn't even a gun!
 
No offence man but the original looks pretty bad. The details on this are far better IMO, but the paint is a little lacking I agree.

Not sure how this looks plastic to some people though. I've seen that same comment mentioned on Statue Forum too, and I thought it was really odd. What actually makes it 'look plastic'? Serious question, because I can't really tell the material of something just by looking at the painted object. For what it's worth though, Sideshow did confirm to me in an email that it's indeed polystone, and only the smaller pieces like the pistons are plastic.

As I saw the unboxing its like the guy just picked it up so easy so that tells me that it isn't made with that great of quality! I have the hcg legendary and the original I will take those over this one any day! Side show has lost all faith in me with their pieces. The original whats wrong with it? Only thing I se is the teeth and this one is hard to find. Plus it weighs like twenty pounds. I see in this new one bad paint bad quality and high price. Usual side show!
 
As I saw the unboxing its like the guy just picked it up so easy so that tells me that it isn't made with that great of quality! I have the hcg legendary and the original I will take those over this one any day! Side show has lost all faith in me with their pieces. The original whats wrong with it? Only thing I se is the teeth and this one is hard to find. Plus it weighs like twenty pounds. I see in this new one bad paint bad quality and high price. Usual side show!

Yeah it doesn't weigh much. 15lbs for the whole thing, same as the Dark Knight Joker PF (which I know you own, hence why I'm using that as an example). Wouldn't imagine it would be difficult to remove from the packaging.

The HCG Legendary Scale is cool, but I just don't collect half scale pieces otherwise I'd be all over that one.

As for the original Maquette, I guess it all comes down to personal taste bro. Personally I was never a fan. The chrome finish is nice, I just wasn't a fan of the sculpt or the moveable joints. I'll admit, the new Maquette didn't look great in Sideshow's unboxing, but I think it may have just been the lighting in the video, as it looks great in their pictures on the website which are the production model.
 
I have to agree with Matt on this one.
I prefer the original much more.

Plus, there's no weapon. Making it nothing more than a mechanical zombie to me.
 
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It's not supposed to have a weapon. It's supposed to resemble the original endoskeleton from the first movie, when he emerges from the truck wreckage. He wasn't holding a weapon.
 
It's not supposed to have a weapon. It's supposed to resemble the original endoskeleton from the first movie, when he emerges from the truck wreckage. He wasn't holding a weapon.


I thought so at first too.
However, the licence is for "Terminator 2 Judgment Day" and the rubble on the base is from a structure (not a vehicle).
This leads me to believe that the statue is referencing T2. Even the initial concept art on page 1 of this thread looked a lot like T2.

That's why the lack of a weapon (or at least a weapon switch out option) feels weird to me.
 
I thought so at first too.
However, the licence is for "Terminator 2 Judgment Day" and the rubble on the base is from a structure (not a vehicle).
This leads me to believe that the statue is referencing T2. Even the initial concept art on page 1 of this thread looked a lot like T2.

That's why the lack of a weapon (or at least a weapon switch out option) feels weird to me.

The licence is definitely from 'The Terminator', not Terminator 2. The exclusive is a name plate with 'The Terminator' logo on it. The base was probably done this way as it was easier than trying to replicate vehicle wreckage. There is even pipe bombs on the ground which were used by Kyle Reese, and a light up feature in the base which is supposed to replicate the burning wreckage.
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Yeah it doesn't weigh much. 15lbs for the whole thing, same as the Dark Knight Joker PF (which I know you own, hence why I'm using that as an example). Wouldn't imagine it would be difficult to remove from the packaging.

The HCG Legendary Scale is cool, but I just don't collect half scale pieces otherwise I'd be all over that one.

As for the original Maquette, I guess it all comes down to personal taste bro. Personally I was never a fan. The chrome finish is nice, I just wasn't a fan of the sculpt or the moveable joints. I'll admit, the new Maquette didn't look great in Sideshow's unboxing, but I think it may have just been the lighting in the video, as it looks great in their pictures on the website which are the production model.

I hope your right for everyone who is buying this thing. I hate to say it but this last year prices sky rocketed quality went way down and the statues just do not look good. I have not scene it in person but this statue by the looks of it just looks way off. Idk why people donot like the old one. I see no flaws but the teeth. As I am looking at it right now but I guess to each their own. But I don't buy from side show anymore with seeing how bad the statues have gotten and price wise. Now iron studios vader I was blown away, all statues should be that good. After all that is what we should expect to receive after paying so much. But this statue is an easy pass for me. I mean I have the original predator Marquette and that is stunning. I look at these older pieces and just think wtf happened to side show. How can they let ****** quality go out to customers. Anyways, I hope it does look good for all those that buy it. Peace!!!
 
I thought so at first too.
However, the licence is for "Terminator 2 Judgment Day" and the rubble on the base is from a structure (not a vehicle).
This leads me to believe that the statue is referencing T2. Even the initial concept art on page 1 of this thread looked a lot like T2.

That's why the lack of a weapon (or at least a weapon switch out option) feels weird to me.

This is definitely NOT T2. If the nameplate isn't enough of a clue, one of the most noticeable differences between T1 and T2 is the chip cover on the head. This is clearly T1. No weapon needed.
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This is definitely NOT T2. If the nameplate isn't enough of a clue, one of the most noticeable differences between T1 and T2 is the chip cover on the head. This is clearly T1. No weapon needed.
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but it has T2 kneecaps, T2 belly plate (much bigger than T1) and seemingly T2 palms.
and no extra body hoses, though those hoses are always missing on all figures.

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T1 doesn't have kneecaps (weird design mistake), and either his abdomen plate is smaller or spine is longer, or both, but it allows you to see more "spine" tower sections than with T2.

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and i have to see a big side picture of the neck to see how neck hydraulics are connected to the head.

found it - T1 pistons connected via ball joints, while in T1 they were connected differently.

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he also has T2 shoulders. T1 shoulders had a flat hole in them, while on T2 it had more concentrating rounds.

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and his forearm bone is straight instead of bent, and doesn't have an cut-out, empty space inside it, which turns it from a cylinder into a segment.
from what pictures i have it's best seen on a stop motion doll.

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no, found another good image - of an 1/1 hand.

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(don't pay attention to arrows. i measured differences in pistons length between T1 and T2 when i made that pic)

T2 has that part shaped and cut differently - same as this statue.

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T1 has a cone-shaped forearm while T2 and this statue has them more cylinder-shaped.

it's also well seen that the forearm pistons - their thick parts - are absolutely impossibly short on the statue.

also he has that terrible flat back. that alone defines sculptor's lack of knowledge of terminators from the start, like somebody talking about honor defines lack of knowledge of predators. :pfft:

speaking about the back, the only clear shot of T1 back i have shows that its middle plate has very different details.

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it also shows that those holes in shoulder blade bones and in the back itself should be aligned, because blades move in those holes.
statue's back has back holes much smaller, ending a lot before the shoulder blades start, so this engineering would not be able to make a round back at all. and won't move.
 
it definately has the T2 neck. The T1 neck has a split in it on the front.

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And about the second port cover:
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it definately has the T2 neck. The T1 neck has a split in it on the front.

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a seam! i finally remembered that word i needed for describing back plate details.
yes you're right, one more detail from T2 who doesn't have that seam on his neck.
so by now i see 2 T1 details: 1cranium lid (the second one looks wrong, as it should have that turning holder - last image in this post) - and 1 pair of neck pistons.

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pistons are still connected to the head not in T1 style, and being a statue, it's lazy sculpting and not an engineering decision.
plus pistons are not connected to the body properly, they turn into bendy springs for some weird Sideshow reason.

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which they shouldn't do on any terminators at all, as they lose their engineering purpose of head support by that.

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so much for "The Terminator" license.

p.s. a promised back skull lid with a turning detail.

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compare it to a simple round on the statue.

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