Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
Indeed it is, almost guaranteed to happen
Can't tell if you're talking about Star Wars 7 or T5
Indeed it is, almost guaranteed to happen
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
I'll be honest, I thought Jai Courtney was actually the best thing about that trailer, and that's only because nothing that came out of his mouth was cringeworthy.
Arnold, that Game of Thrones girl and even Jason Clarke who I thought was perfectly casted as JC all look like they will be getting nominated for Razzie awards this year.
I actually have no problem with the plot, the story looks really interesting, but it seems like it's going to be filled with forced cheesy dialogue and uninspired action sequences that most blockbusters are plagued with these days.
I hope I'm wrong because there was also a lot to like about that trailer too but the line delivery was just awful from most of the cast it was hard to appreciate what actually was decent in that trailer.
Can't wait for hot toys to make old Arney T-800 though.
I'll be honest, I thought Jai Courtney was actually the best thing about that trailer, and that's only because nothing that came out of his mouth was cringeworthy.
Arnold, that Game of Thrones girl and even Jason Clarke who I thought was perfectly casted as JC all look like they will be getting nominated for Razzie awards this year.
I actually have no problem with the plot, the story looks really interesting, but it seems like it's going to be filled with forced cheesy dialogue and uninspired action sequences that most blockbusters are plagued with these days.
I hope I'm wrong because there was also a lot to like about that trailer too but the line delivery was just awful from most of the cast it was hard to appreciate what actually was decent in that trailer.
Can't wait for hot toys to make old Arney T-800 though.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
Or a naked 84 T-800 with a little diorama that doesn't quite capture the look of the original 1984 scene
Or a naked 84 T-800 with a little diorama that doesn't quite capture the look of the original 1984 scene
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
Why be a cop? In T2 the T-1000 chose the default cop option because that was the first guy he came across when he arrived. He used the status for the record base and infiltration purposes.
In this one? He just happens to be there when Reese shows up? Why not just be the bum 'did you see a real bright light' guy? Bam, right there in the alley, Kyle Reese is dead.
Why be a cop? In T2 the T-1000 chose the default cop option because that was the first guy he came across when he arrived. He used the status for the record base and infiltration purposes.
In this one? He just happens to be there when Reese shows up? Why not just be the bum 'did you see a real bright light' guy? Bam, right there in the alley, Kyle Reese is dead.
Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
Exactly! I still wish they would've continued the Salvation storyline. There's so much they can do with the future war that we haven't yet seen, but nope, let's go back in time and needlessly retcon a perfectly good foundation story. I realize I'm in the minority that enjoyed Salvation, but at the very least, there's still potential to be tapped there. The '80s and '90s, however, are totally barren. Cameron already took care of them and did a damn good job.
Exactly! I still wish they would've continued the Salvation storyline. There's so much they can do with the future war that we haven't yet seen, but nope, let's go back in time and needlessly retcon a perfectly good foundation story. I realize I'm in the minority that enjoyed Salvation, but at the very least, there's still potential to be tapped there. The '80s and '90s, however, are totally barren. Cameron already took care of them and did a damn good job.
Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
Can't wait to hear some character say "get out"
Can't wait to hear some character say "get out"
Because otherwise the audience can't say, "hey, there's that melty robot guy from one of the other movies or something! I vaguely recognize this!"
GasparZizou
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
I can't make up for the rest of the ***tty plot
You asked first why the Asian cop, well, casting.
I can't make up for the rest of the ***tty plot
Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
Well remember Robert Patrick's T-1000 was Robert Patrick right from the off - he assumed only the clothes and vehicle of a cop. So presumably asian T-1000 also happens to run into a cop as his first contact with humans in the past.
Makes me question the workings of the T-1000 though. If he forms the clothes out of himself.....are they still detached from him like real clothes? And if he can separate part of himself from his main body to turn into a shirt or a pair of boots then why can't he off-shoot part of himself to turn into a packet of cigarettes as Furlong's John asks in T2? Granted doing that would be pretty useless but still
Well remember Robert Patrick's T-1000 was Robert Patrick right from the off - he assumed only the clothes and vehicle of a cop. So presumably asian T-1000 also happens to run into a cop as his first contact with humans in the past.
Makes me question the workings of the T-1000 though. If he forms the clothes out of himself.....are they still detached from him like real clothes? And if he can separate part of himself from his main body to turn into a shirt or a pair of boots then why can't he off-shoot part of himself to turn into a packet of cigarettes as Furlong's John asks in T2? Granted doing that would be pretty useless but still
Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
Future war parts were the best moments in the trailer.........interesting how little Ahnuld shown in trailer. Lose the 'I'll be back' line in the final movie for me....looks ok. On par with T3....but does look a tad more serious. I do NOT like the idea of them butt raping the memory of Terminator 1 though. That Ahnuld is always going to be the ultimate
People asking why the 84 CG Ahnuld looks bad - I think its a shot of the actual movie superimposed onto a new background, rather than an Ahnuld character model - looks like the background and foreground shots don't match the lighting thus looking bad
Future war parts were the best moments in the trailer.........interesting how little Ahnuld shown in trailer. Lose the 'I'll be back' line in the final movie for me....looks ok. On par with T3....but does look a tad more serious. I do NOT like the idea of them butt raping the memory of Terminator 1 though. That Ahnuld is always going to be the ultimate
People asking why the 84 CG Ahnuld looks bad - I think its a shot of the actual movie superimposed onto a new background, rather than an Ahnuld character model - looks like the background and foreground shots don't match the lighting thus looking bad
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
Coulda done a future war story where they admit that time travel can't prevent judgement day so they have to win or become extinct.
The problem with this is it's the exact same storyline as T1-T3. From T2 onwards the theme has been that judgement day is inevitable so no matter the outcome of this we know that Judgement at will happen not only because of that theme because they like to rehash the same story and can't have Judgement day not happen.
Stakes are lost since we know the outcome
At least Salvation tried something new.
Coulda done a future war story where they admit that time travel can't prevent judgement day so they have to win or become extinct.
The problem with this is it's the exact same storyline as T1-T3. From T2 onwards the theme has been that judgement day is inevitable so no matter the outcome of this we know that Judgement at will happen not only because of that theme because they like to rehash the same story and can't have Judgement day not happen.
Stakes are lost since we know the outcome
At least Salvation tried something new.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
Casting Lee Byung-hun as the T-1000 is interesting. Liking the look of that but what's the story here?
John sends someone (Kyle?) back to the T1 timeline but that's been altered because the T-800 that got sent there was already destroyed by Old Arnold? Where did the aged T-800 come from?
And I'm assuming because it's a new timeline, the T-1000 is the T2 T-1000 but as a different actor.
Am I correct or missing something?
Casting Lee Byung-hun as the T-1000 is interesting. Liking the look of that but what's the story here?
John sends someone (Kyle?) back to the T1 timeline but that's been altered because the T-800 that got sent there was already destroyed by Old Arnold? Where did the aged T-800 come from?
And I'm assuming because it's a new timeline, the T-1000 is the T2 T-1000 but as a different actor.
Am I correct or missing something?
slipknotpredator
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
So they are trying to stop judgment day, AGAIN? That's all they could think of? I'm very disappointed. I was expecting something totally different.
Agree with the over the top action, we don't need that.
I'm sad. First Orion launch is canceled and now this. Terrible day.
So they are trying to stop judgment day, AGAIN? That's all they could think of? I'm very disappointed. I was expecting something totally different.
Agree with the over the top action, we don't need that.
I'm sad. First Orion launch is canceled and now this. Terrible day.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
He liked the trailer
He liked the trailer
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
Ditto.
But the worst thing for me was John Connor. I don't know anything about the actor playing him, so I have nothing personal against the man, but he looked pretty damn dreadful in that trailer. It's like the studio are determined to make sure that Nick Stahl doesn't go down as the worst John Connor of all time.
I can already tell I'm going to hate Kyle Reese
Ditto.
But the worst thing for me was John Connor. I don't know anything about the actor playing him, so I have nothing personal against the man, but he looked pretty damn dreadful in that trailer. It's like the studio are determined to make sure that Nick Stahl doesn't go down as the worst John Connor of all time.
Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
I was kind of onboard for whatever zany absurdity they wanted to bring to series at this point. Full batcrap, right ahead as kara and I were anticipating a while back.
I was expecting crazy BTTF Part II overlapping of timelines, old Arnold/new Kyle intersecting with events from previous 1984 at various stages of the original movie, a T-1000 thrown into the mix, etc. But what I'm getting from the trailer is that five seconds after 1984 Arnold shows up Pops Arnold shoots him, knocks him on his back and then probably walks up and snaps his neck or something. THE END. ORIGINAL TIMELINE DONE. And then the rest of the entire movie is just good Arnold against a T-1000. Again. No other twists, just a third retread of the first movie with less charismatic actors.
What little "twist" they had with the old man Terminator and erased timeline they literally just spoiled in the first trailer. So all they were trying to accomplish was:
1. Set the movie in 1984 again.
2. Explain why Arnold is old.
3. Otherwise do the exact same damn movie.
Wow.
I was kind of onboard for whatever zany absurdity they wanted to bring to series at this point. Full batcrap, right ahead as kara and I were anticipating a while back.
I was expecting crazy BTTF Part II overlapping of timelines, old Arnold/new Kyle intersecting with events from previous 1984 at various stages of the original movie, a T-1000 thrown into the mix, etc. But what I'm getting from the trailer is that five seconds after 1984 Arnold shows up Pops Arnold shoots him, knocks him on his back and then probably walks up and snaps his neck or something. THE END. ORIGINAL TIMELINE DONE. And then the rest of the entire movie is just good Arnold against a T-1000. Again. No other twists, just a third retread of the first movie with less charismatic actors.
What little "twist" they had with the old man Terminator and erased timeline they literally just spoiled in the first trailer. So all they were trying to accomplish was:
1. Set the movie in 1984 again.
2. Explain why Arnold is old.
3. Otherwise do the exact same damn movie.
Wow.
GasparZizou
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
His reactions are still entertaining to watch.
I mean, it looks like a fun movie, the same way the fast and the furious are dumb fun, but the problem is, that a terminator movie is supposed to be more than just dumb action.
He did apologizeHe liked the trailer
[video=youtube;2KMSrDwsM8Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMSrDwsM8Q&list=UUs95gwav7frv5HTVqAGa7uQ[video]
His reactions are still entertaining to watch.
I mean, it looks like a fun movie, the same way the fast and the furious are dumb fun, but the problem is, that a terminator movie is supposed to be more than just dumb action.
GasparZizou
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
****!!!
Oh man that sounds really good.
Which makes this all the more depressing.
****!!!
Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
that guy is fantastic.....watch him in Zero Dark Thirty then come back and comment again...!
Ditto.
But the worst thing for me was John Connor. I don't know anything about the actor playing him, so I have nothing personal against the man, but he looked pretty damn dreadful in that trailer. It's like the studio are determined to make sure that Nick Stahl doesn't go down as the worst John Connor of all time.
that guy is fantastic.....watch him in Zero Dark Thirty then come back and comment again...!
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