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Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

Terminator: Genesis

then

Terminator: Exodus

all the way to

Terminator: Revelations


terminator just went bible crazy, yo.
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

Why don't they go back and try and kill Mary? That'd be awesome to see Mary and Joseph riding a little donkey through an alley as Arnold bears down on them atop a war elephant. Or maybe we can learn that the serpent in Eden was a liquid metal snake.
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

It is probably going to suck, but I'll give it a watch, anyway. Don't mind Arnie being in it, at all, so long as he's playing a human (guessing becomes the template for the T-800). That part could be cool if it's handled right.
 
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Also there's that trilogy talk again. Well done lads, don't just try to make one good film. Immediately talk about a trilogy. Disregard the fact that Terminator Salvation was also planned as the first of a trilogy but no one gave enough of a $h!t to make it sufficiently successful for that plan to be seen through. And as a result the primary meat of the story was left untold. **** it. Make exactly the same mistake again, why not.

I really think that's the reason most hate Salvation. Really would've liked to see the whole arc, especially after finally getting the future aspect we'd all been pining for since T1. :(
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

Salvations problem, imo, isn't really lacking the vision of Cameron's apocalyptic future, that was obviously still coming. There were way too many new terminators like the bikes and giants, should have limited themselves a bit more. And of course the heart transplant is the silliest ending to a movie probably ever. But John is also forced into alot of scenes just to be there. Like when hes barking orders at the A-10 pilots, like "take evasive action". Simply no need for him in that scene telling veteran pilots under fire that they should try to avoid the bullets. :lol They turned him into a StarFox character rather than a savior. [ame]https://youtu.be/mv5qzMtLE60[/ame]

The way he also gets an entire nuclear sub with the command center and I have to imagine alot of really important well trained high ups killed because of a disagreement with a single man isn't exactly hero material.
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

Salvations problem, imo, isn't really lacking the vision of Cameron's apocalyptic future, that was obviously still coming. There were way too many new terminators like the bikes and giants, should have limited themselves a bit more. And of course the heart transplant is the silliest ending to a movie probably ever. But John is also forced into alot of scenes just to be there. Like when hes barking orders at the A-10 pilots, like "take evasive action". Simply no need for him in that scene telling veteran pilots under fire that they should try to avoid the bullets. :lol They turned him into a StarFox character rather than a savior. https://youtu.be/mv5qzMtLE60

Oh, no doubt the heart transplant in a halfassed triage tent was silly as ****, and I didn't buy the lame T800 cameo whatsoever (they should've just made it Kickinger's face, a random bodybuilder, like they'd already established in T1 with Frank), but the rest I kinda overlooked thinking the whole film as John's rise to leader of the resistance, which explained his awkward moments, with the next being the main war and the last, the fall of Skynet. Film ideas now long gone. :(
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

Too bad Christian won't be back as John Connor. I would've loved to see him in another movie except this time with a better script. Oh well.
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

Salvations problem, imo, isn't really lacking the vision of Cameron's apocalyptic future, that was obviously still coming.

See, I think that WAS the problem (along with the other Terminator machines and even Skynet itself).

The future in Salvation is quite tame compared to the apocalyptic future of T1 and T2. In those first two films, we saw a rag tag army, kids playing with rats, moaning, and pure agony. That looked like a hellish lifestyle. The future was grim and the cinematography with the blue hue represented that. The crushed skulls, the hopelessness, the fact that everyone was underground and looked like ****, it was nightmarish.

t1-art-concepting-007.jpg


Salvation? It was just grey. It barely looked like there was a nuclear war (despite seeing the actual missiles hit, like in T3). It was more along the lines of Mad Max then it was Terminator. They had gas stations, forests, lakes, helicopters, submarines and everyone looked quite clean and well fed. Connor was even preparing for a friggin' kid wasn't he? It didn't look like a horrible life.

terminator_salvation05.jpg


Think back to what Kyle Reese is describing in the first Terminator. "It's gone . . . all gone". Or how he and Connor were in these concentration camps having to dispose of bodies night and day. It was dark and grim and mirrored the holocaust. Terminator Salvation? They cage everyone and put them in these sterile, glass prisons. They don't even kill or dispose of anyone. Skynet isn't even cold and calculating in the film, even when it has the advantage of knowing Connor's past and who is dad is (or atleast, the importance of Kyle Reese). It just sucked.
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

Why don't they go back and try and kill Mary? That'd be awesome to see Mary and Joseph riding a little donkey through an alley as Arnold bears down on them atop a war elephant. Or maybe we can learn that the serpent in Eden was a liquid metal snake.

[ame="https://youtu.be/8pUrsUORF4Y"]https://youtu.be/8pUrsUORF4Y[/ame]
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

See, I think that WAS the problem (along with the other Terminator machines and even Skynet itself).

The future in Salvation is quite tame compared to the apocalyptic future of T1 and T2. In those first two films, we saw a rag tag army, kids playing with rats, moaning, and pure agony. That looked like a hellish lifestyle. The future was grim and the cinematography with the blue hue represented that. The crushed skulls, the hopelessness, the fact that everyone was underground and looked like ****, it was nightmarish.

t1-art-concepting-007.jpg


Salvation? It was just grey. It barely looked like there was a nuclear war (despite seeing the actual missiles hit, like in T3). It was more along the lines of Mad Max then it was Terminator. They had gas stations, forests, lakes, helicopters, submarines and everyone looked quite clean and well fed. Connor was even preparing for a friggin' kid wasn't he? It didn't look like a horrible life.

terminator_salvation05.jpg


Think back to what Kyle Reese is describing in the first Terminator. "It's gone . . . all gone". Or how he and Connor were in these concentration camps having to dispose of bodies night and day. It was dark and grim and mirrored the holocaust. Terminator Salvation? They cage everyone and put them in these sterile, glass prisons. They don't even kill or dispose of anyone. Skynet isn't even cold and calculating in the film, even when it has the advantage of knowing Connor's past and who is dad is (or atleast, the importance of Kyle Reese). It just sucked.
Well said, DiFabio. Glad that it was not successful enough to spawn sequels as it was just a totally lifeless film.
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

Skynet isn't even cold and calculating in the film, even when it has the advantage of knowing Connor's past and who is dad is (or atleast, the importance of Kyle Reese). It just sucked.

I'm not sure what you mean by this? They wanted to lure Connor to Skynet by using Reese as bait

Unless you mean they should have just killed Reese, thus preventing him going back in time and inseminating Sarah like a boss

As far as paradox's are concerned, that's about as unrealistic as the entire plot of t1 and t2 (not a criticism, gotta suspend belief for time travel)

but if the machines thought that killing sarah or connor would prevent the future, then killing Reese once they had him would use the same logic

The thing that really does confuse me though is this, how do the machines knwo that Reese is Connors father? They originally send the T-800 to kill Sarah to prevent Connor from existing, paradox aside, i get that and accept it.

But they couldn't know that Reese is going to end up being Connors biological father, tehre would be no records from our time and even if they were they would have been destroyed by the nukes, the original T-800 chip survived for while, but again, that terminator had no idea that Kyle hooked up with Sarah

It was a silly plot point in TS, and a big plot point as well
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

On a far more important note; are they gonna use the same theme music?!

That's like James Bond without his DUNNA DUH!!

Or Superman without his Duun dun dun dun duuuun! - wait, that would be Man of Steel. :nono no Zimmer!
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

My vote that either Michael Fassbender or Chris Evans take on the role of John Connor. They got the acting chops and leader presence to pull it off
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

Magneto and Captain America taking on the role after Bruce Wayne failed?
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

Salvation was a awesome film in my opinion, why a feckin' reboot, I wanted them to continue and have Robert Partrick back to help with the T-1000's creation!
 
Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

**** all that. bring back furlong. he looks like post judgment day as is already.

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Re: Terminator 5 - Shooting Jan 2014

Salvation was a awesome film in my opinion, why a feckin' reboot, I wanted them to continue and have Robert Partrick back to help with the T-1000's creation!

I think you're the only person I've ever seen on this entire forum who actually liked that steaming pile of ****.
 
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