Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

[jye4ever]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Sounds like you already like it better than T3/TS.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

All I can say is, what the hell is Cameron gonna pull out of his @$$ with Avatar 2, 3 and 4 if he genuinely considers this a '10' film? How far can one fall. I actually refuse to believe it. I refuse to believe that he is serious. In his heart of hearts he knows that Genisys is a piss-take, he just doesn't want to offend Arnold who himself was never the brains behind this franchise, who never quite had his thumb on the pulse of what people liked about the first two films. Arnold put in two great performances in those films and it was entirely down to Cameron's guidance. Cameron may be aware of this but is too nice to say it to his friend - yeah, Cameron 'too nice' But seriously, even if Cameron was reacting having been flattered by so much reference to his classic film and that, perhaps, all of this gave him pride which in turn deluded him into thinking that what he was watching was 'fantastic, a straight 10' - I cannot believe that this will remain his reaction for all time. He is smarter than this. It will dawn on him very shortly how awful Genisys is as a continuation of his franchise and it'll be right back to ''other people pissing in his soup''. T2 closed it out, nothing else followed.

There was only one other movie to be made that never happened and even this probably wasn't an imperative. A movie-length version of the future war sequence that was originally to be part of T2. No stupid twists required, no ****ing trilogy. Just one movie showing us what Michael Biehn's Kyle Reese described. Just ****ing make that, lead directly into the events of T1 and T2. Done. Perfect coverage of the story. But no. Instead we apparently need a bunch of nonsense retread Terminator movies made by rent-a-directors instead of the original guy who himself has become bizarrely obsessed by something no one cares about...a movie that is routinely described as overrated and for which even the core fandom has possibly dissipated quite a bit by the time the next film comes around.

 

[Irvy]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Cameron went full avatard. He tattooed his balls blue and lives under the sea now.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

And another....

Oh FFS, this is a Syfy movie with a big budget.

 

[cmiller99]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

I still think that "Forget Everything You Know" is one of the ****ing stupidest tag lines I've ever seen for a film

 

[Patriot666]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Women

It is a very rare occurrence for me no doubt.

That little animal gif above is helping me cope.

Glad my little lemur has helped.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

You will need an army of cute animal gifs for a-dev after his TG viewing.

 

[Patriot666]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Sounds that way. S***'s gonna get real up in here.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Had a wee bit to drink last night but I pretty much agree with my drunk self.

Ironic that T-John says he can't be bargained with and he can't be reasoned with. Of all the Terminators this series has had he seems the most likely candidate to be bargained with and reasoned with. He apparently has the very human need to talk about himself and his plans in dramatic fashion. T1 T-800 would never have done that. T-1000 wouldn't. Heck, even the TX wouldn't.

It seems like there's a real possibility of communicating with this particular bad-guy Terminator which is a step towards bargaining with him that the others would never have offered.

 

[Python]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

You know, it occurred to me while at work today. The Guardian T-800 says "I've been waiting for you" when confronting the 1984 T-800... And yet he has a shotgun in hand, a weapon that may as well be a water pistol against a T-800. If he's been waiting, that suggests he's had time to prepare. We know Sarah has access to quite an arsenal of weapons, so why didn't he just fire an RPG from a distance, or even use remote explosives? Heck, even that mini gun from T2 would probably cut down a T-800 with little effort.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

You know, it occurred to me while at work today. The Guardian T-800 says "I've been waiting for you" when confronting the 1984 T-800... And yet he has a shotgun in hand, a weapon that may as well be a water pistol against a T-800. If he's been waiting, that suggests he's had time to prepare. We know Sarah has access to quite an arsenal of weapons, so why didn't he just fire an RPG from a distance, or even use remote explosives? Heck, even that mini gun from T2 would probably cut down a T-800 with little effort.

^point one.

Point two - why would Pops say anything to him at all? Did I miss the part in T2 where the T-800 dramatically says ''I'm here to stop you!'' to the T-1000?

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

I guess they think audiences are so dumb that everything needs to be explained to them even if that means having 2 Terminators holding a conversation with each other on their plans.

I guess they needed to humanize the guardian Terminator by making him talk more.

 

[Xenoburger_]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

No, they added it because it's fun and badass. Simple as that.

I mean I would prefer him saying "I need a vacation", but we can't always get what we want.

 

[Patriot666]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

You know, it occurred to me while at work today. The Guardian T-800 says "I've been waiting for you" when confronting the 1984 T-800... And yet he has a shotgun in hand, a weapon that may as well be a water pistol against a T-800. If he's been waiting, that suggests he's had time to prepare. We know Sarah has access to quite an arsenal of weapons, so why didn't he just fire an RPG from a distance, or even use remote explosives? Heck, even that mini gun from T2 would probably cut down a T-800 with little effort.

Good point. So dumb.

 

[Sundowner]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

You know, it occurred to me while at work today. The Guardian T-800 says "I've been waiting for you" when confronting the 1984 T-800... And yet he has a shotgun in hand, a weapon that may as well be a water pistol against a T-800. If he's been waiting, that suggests he's had time to prepare. We know Sarah has access to quite an arsenal of weapons, so why didn't he just fire an RPG from a distance, or even use remote explosives? Heck, even that mini gun from T2 would probably cut down a T-800 with little effort.

we haven't seen the complete scene yet

All I can say is, what the hell is Cameron gonna pull out of his @$$ with Avatar 2, 3 and 4 if he genuinely considers this a '10' film? How far can one fall. I actually refuse to believe it. I refuse to believe that he is serious. In his heart of hearts he knows that Genisys is a piss-take, he just doesn't want to offend Arnold who himself was never the brains behind this franchise, who never quite had his thumb on the pulse of what people liked about the first two films. Arnold put in two great performances in those films and it was entirely down to Cameron's guidance. Cameron may be aware of this but is too nice to say it to his friend - yeah, Cameron 'too nice' But seriously, even if Cameron was reacting having been flattered by so much reference to his classic film and that, perhaps, all of this gave him pride which in turn deluded him into thinking that what he was watching was 'fantastic, a straight 10' - I cannot believe that this will remain his reaction for all time. He is smarter than this. It will dawn on him very shortly how awful Genisys is as a continuation of his franchise and it'll be right back to ''other people pissing in his soup''. T2 closed it out, nothing else followed.

There was only one other movie to be made that never happened and even this probably wasn't an imperative. A movie-length version of the future war sequence that was originally to be part of T2. No stupid twists required, no ****ing trilogy. Just one movie showing us what Michael Biehn's Kyle Reese described. Just ****ing make that, lead directly into the events of T1 and T2. Done. Perfect coverage of the story. But no. Instead we apparently need a bunch of nonsense retread Terminator movies made by rent-a-directors instead of the original guy who himself has become bizarrely obsessed by something no one cares about...a movie that is routinely described as overrated and for which even the core fandom has possibly dissipated quite a bit by the time the next film comes around.

that's quite a rant...

I still think that "Forget Everything You Know" is one of the ****ing stupidest tag lines I've ever seen for a film

It's a slap in the face

 

[a-dev]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

No, they added it because it's fun and badass. Simple as that.

I mean I would prefer him saying "I need a vacation", but we can't always get what we want.

Of course someone brings up one of T2's few moments of arguable excess
Remind to be right there when Alien 5 goes 'too Cameron' with the Alien mythos

 

[Xenoburger_]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Of course someone brings up one of T2's few moments of arguable excess
Remind to be right there when Alien 5 goes 'too Cameron' with the Alien mythos

I don't doubt it will.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

I don't doubt it will.

I've just realised that last jab I made doesn't really work on you. Not the same scenario we've got here.

If Ridley Scott had made Aliens then the analogy would have worked.

 

[Python]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

we haven't seen the complete scene yet

Well no, obviously, but whatever plan they may have, it would probably be wise to carry a weapon that would at least be effective.

 

[Sundowner]

Re: Terminator: Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

Well no, obviously, but whatever plan they may have, it would probably be wise to carry a weapon that would at least be effective.

well Sarah said "we took care of him" so she will probably show up with a bigger gun