Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

[slipknotpredator]

What about the future war?

It's the best future representation we've seen after T1 and T2.

 

[Khev]

It's the best future representation we've seen after T1 and T2.

Yeah I loved how it played out and how it felt like the same future from the first two films.

 

[crows]

why couldn't they just do a future war movie then? because of Salvation? did Salvation ruin everything?

 

[a-dev]

why couldn't they just do a future war movie then? because of Salvation? did Salvation ruin everything?

Well, if Salvation didn't do so then this movie will 'ruin' the chances of the dedicated future war movie many of us have wanted. Since it reduces the key parts to a prologue it's pretty unlikely they will be told again over the broader time of an entire movie. Salvation tried to unnecessarily stretch it out over 3 films while this film condenses it too much I'm guessing.

 

[Khev]

The future war is a good 20 minutes in this though. It isn't just some little tease that's a couple minutes longer than what is shown in the trailers. It's basically the prologue that Cameron never got to film for T2. I don't really think we need a full future movie at this point, and like you said, it would be a bit "wasted" on Courtney.

If Reese was better cast and the twist hadn't been spoiled this movie could have been an easy 8 out of 10. But still, a very fun "7" (IMO of course) is better than I ever imagined after seeing those first trailers.

 

[Matt S]

Spoiler

Just young Pops in the 70's. I don't recall old Arnold ever wearing them.

yeah, and its those same t1 glasses. Were they around in the 70's?

 

[Khev]

yeah, and its those same t1 glasses. Were they around in the 70's?

Spoiler

No actually those Gargoyles were brand new in 1984 so I wondered about where Pops actually came from. In fact young Pops looked almost exactly like 1984 Police Shootout Arnold. With his databank of who sent him being erased I'm fascinated to see what is revealed in the next movie if it actually gets made.

 

[Wor-Gar]

6/10 for me.

Better than salvation and T3. "Reese", the new terminator and trying to stop judgment day AGAIN ruined for me. The funny bits are better than the ones in T3, not that cheese.

"Reese" behaves like a little girl and there's nothing memorable in his actions.

The time travel stuff is stupid. Can't believe they are thinking to do a trilogy out of this thing.

T1000, Arnold and the 1984 parts were great.

OK, this is more like it. But still.... I see the word "great" in there. Arnold and great!

I'm going to chalk this up to the usual "can't wait excitement" types.



I'm smelling that there's nearly half-a-movie here that isn't too bad. The rest I think is much worse than you guys are letting on (well, maybe not slipknot). Still, T3 had maybe 1/3 a movie in there, so maybe this is better -- or more likely just more current with better effects.

I still feel like this is going to be a groaner... with a couple 'that's cool' moments that quickly pass.

 

[yodasan]

Currently at 25% on the tomato meter.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Currently at 25% on the tomato meter.

Ah-Ha!


Never trust the early-adopters.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Spoiler

No actually those Gargoyles were brand new in 1984 so I wondered about where Pops actually came from. In fact young Pops looked almost exactly like 1984 Police Shootout Arnold. With his databank of who sent him being erased I'm fascinated to see what is revealed in the next movie if it actually gets made.

Spoiler

Actually, they weren't new in 84. Eastwood wore them before Arnie in one of the Dirty Harry films.

Having said that, I don't know if they were available in 1973.

 

[crows]

Currently at 25% on the tomato meter.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I just finished watching T2 on the SYFY channel, and there's really no reason for Uncle Bob to "die" in the end. He could easily stay with John and Sarah, as long as Cyberdyne doesn't get their hands on him and the technology...and why would they if they live a quiet life? Nothing changes. Just because he's around, it doesn't mean that judgement day is going to happen. They already stopped the source of the problem, cyberdine, by destroying all the data, research, the endo arm and chip that the company was using for research. Even the creator, Dyson, dies.

 

[DiFabio]

I just finished watching T2 on the SYFY channel, and there's really no reason for Uncle Bob to "die" in the end. He could easily stay with John and Sarah, as long as Cyberdyne doesn't get their hands on him and the technology...and why would they if they live a quiet life? Nothing changes. Just because he's around, it doesn't mean that judgement day is going to happen. They already stopped the source of the problem, cyberdine, by destroying all the data, research, the endo arm and chip that the company was using for research. Even the creator, Dyson, dies.

He was running on alternate power from the heat of the Steel Mill. He was pretty ****ed up, there's no telling how long he would have lasted considering he could barely move.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

He was running on alternate power from the heat of the Steel Mill. He was pretty ****ed up, there's no telling how long he would have lasted considering he could barely move.

So his death was just an assisted suicide? Because just before he he dies, Sarah is like, "it's over" meaning the future is safe, and then Uncle Bob is like "No, there's one more chip, and it must be destroyed" implying that in order to save the future, he has to die.

 

[slipknotpredator]

Something I've been thinking about, Arnold looks and behaves like a machine. The new terminator is just some guy with super powers. Doesn't feel or look like a machine at all.

I'm still digesting the movie.

 

[DiFabio]

So his death was just an assisted suicide? Because just before he he dies, Sarah is like, "it's over" meaning the future is safe, and then Uncle Bob is like "No, there's one more chip, and it must be destroyed" implying that in order to save the future, he has to die.

I figured T-800 knew it was a goner at that point and instead of risking shutting down and having them potentially leave his body at the Steel mill as evidence (which would be substantial for the future), he opted to just finish himself off right there.

Also makes for one hell of an ending.

 

[crows]

Something I've been thinking about, Arnold looks and behaves like a machine. The new terminator is just some guy with super powers. Doesn't feel or look like a machine at all.

I'm still digesting the movie.

decades of assimilating to human life

 

[Rorywan]

I'm still digesting the movie.

I digested it and it came out the wrong end.

 

[Rorywan]

I figured T-800 knew it was a goner at that point and instead of risking shutting down and having them potentially leave his body at the Steel mill as evidence (which would be substantial for the future), he opted to just finish himself off right there.

Also makes for one hell of an ending.

When the T2 theme kicked in I recall goosebumps.

I just remembered all the controversy about Alien3 having the same ending when it came out afterwards. Everyone was talking about it at the time.