Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

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Seen the movie today.best movie I have seen this year, but everything is fodder until The Force Awakens hits!

Seemed to be more a story of Kyle Reese and how the time had changed with all the time travelling.
Thought Clarke was really good, fkn hot as hell.
Nice twist with Connor, John, but they could have saved the surprise for the movie.

Did anyone else see the mid credit scene ;)
 
We use T3 crane chase and Arnold shooting minigun while holding casket for our audio demo during home theater installations.

We used to use Saving Private Ryan beach battle but too much gore for the kids in the house. :lol

T3 serves at least one good purpose. :lol

Those 2 scenes really are sonic power houses.

JP1 T-Rex reveal is also another sonic gem, the rain effect resonates really well.

No I haven't seen TG yet. :lol
 
Anyone ever read the Malibu Comics Terminator 2 comics? They pick up immediately after T2 and follow Sarah and John, with cool nods to the films in between.
 
So disappointed to see the 25% rottentomatoes score. That WILL keep people away. I don't know that I can recall a film with a score that low doing well. Dammit, I REALLY want to see the rest of this trilogy. :(
 
The new terminator is just some guy with super powers. Doesn't feel or look like a machine at all.

Well Skynet determined that in every timeline that Reese will always die and John will always live. So it decided that the only way it too can survive is if it piggybacks onto him. It also realized that part of the reason that John wins is because everyone loves him. So it reinvented itself (not too unlike HYDRA in TWS) as something enticing to people. Something people will line up for and count down to get. It positioned itself to be some super Apple Siri, this big exciting thing. And in becoming such a "user friendly" AI it also became more interactive with humans through John and Matt Smith's personification of the AI. That's why it seemed that T-John was taking the "join me" approach for much of the film. Skynet seemed to determine that the best way to defeat humans was not to vaporize them but to trick them into doing it willingly. Hence his talky talky nature. It also makes me still wonder if Pops was their ultimate agent, not John. Because only he has succeeded in making a human "love" him.
 
Well Skynet determined that in every timeline that Reese will always die and John will always live. So it decided that the only way it too can survive is if it piggybacks onto him. It also realized that part of the reason that John wins is because everyone loves him. So it reinvented itself (not too unlike HYDRA in TWS) as something enticing to people. Something people will line up for and count down to get. It positioned itself to be some super Apple Siri, this big exciting thing. And in becoming such a "user friendly" AI it also became more interactive with humans through John and Matt Smith's personification of the AI. That's why it seemed that T-John was taking the "join me" approach for much of the film. Skynet seemed to determine that the best way to defeat humans was not to vaporize them but to trick them into doing it willingly. Hence his talky talky nature. It also makes me still wonder if Pops was their ultimate agent, not John. Because only he has succeeded in making a human "love" him.

i have some questions

what do they do to John exactly?
was that still John or did the machine program took over? was there anything left of him at all? what does the program do exactly? (to their bodies)
was it bad that he became a robot?
how does it end? they kill John? do they go back to the past? would she still get pregnant?
 
**No spoilers**

Well, I saw it. And I loved it.

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Seeing it Thurs,,,,,
 
Well Skynet determined that in every timeline that Reese will always die and John will always live. So it decided that the only way it too can survive is if it piggybacks onto him. It also realized that part of the reason that John wins is because everyone loves him. So it reinvented itself (not too unlike HYDRA in TWS) as something enticing to people. Something people will line up for and count down to get. It positioned itself to be some super Apple Siri, this big exciting thing. And in becoming such a "user friendly" AI it also became more interactive with humans through John and Matt Smith's personification of the AI. That's why it seemed that T-John was taking the "join me" approach for much of the film. Skynet seemed to determine that the best way to defeat humans was not to vaporize them but to trick them into doing it willingly. Hence his talky talky nature. It also makes me still wonder if Pops was their ultimate agent, not John. Because only he has succeeded in making a human "love" him.

Well, if there was a way to make it sound better than it all appears from the trailers I think you've achieved that
 
I believe you not, Khev.



Too much adoration for the past in your review. I do not adore Terminator the way you do... so maybe my expectations are even lower.

This will disappoint me if it is good. :lol

:lol

I think some of you may be pleasantly surprised that this movie isn't the f ecal matter found off the bottom of T3's boots

Robocop remake was crap, is this better than that?

:lol:lol:rotfl Wow, you saw the very moment where a little piece of him died inside :lol

:lol

Kids are stupid. I thought RoboCop 2 and Predator 2 were better than their predecessors. But I was a kid. And stupid.

:lol
 
So disappointed to see the 25% rottentomatoes score. That WILL keep people away. I don't know that I can recall a film with a score that low doing well. Dammit, I REALLY want to see the rest of this trilogy. :(

It is disappointing. It was so much fun seeing Arnie back in this role. Hopefully enough people will go so it and decide for themselves, and not listen to the, I feel, overly harsh critics.
 
i have some questions

what do they do to John exactly?
was that still John or did the machine program took over? was there anything left of him at all? what does the program do exactly? (to their bodies)
was it bad that he became a robot?
how does it end? they kill John? do they go back to the past? would she still get pregnant?

You're asking some big spoilery questions crows but since you asked:

Skynet basically assimilates him at a cellular level. He is sort of human but has the mimetic alloy coating and healing his cells. He's kind of the "Vision" of the Terminator universe. It somehow merges with him though because it retains all of his human memories and even aspects of his personality. Pops says it is something that cannot be cured and Reese tests that out several times by pleading for John to "fight it" and whatnot to no avail. I was actually very happy that John couldn't fight it because they always seem to find a way in movies like this, lol.

At the beginning of the movie when the Resistance fighters capture the Time Displacement equipment it is explained to Reese that anything non-organic will overheat and explode, kind of like tinfoil covering a potato in a microwave. So he has to ditch his clothes which is no surprise to those of us familiar with the series. The movie ends with Cyberdyne counting down to the release of "Genisys" which is the trojan horse operating system that will connect over a billion users in the cloud with this new fancy Siri-like AI (but since it's really Skynet it's a male personification instead of female.) Genisys, and now time displacement technology, are now created by Dyson and is going to go "live" unless of course the heroes can stop it.

Pops, Sarah, and Reese go to Cyberdyne to blow it up, of course T-John is there waiting for them and they have this epic fight. One of my favorite moments in the film has Reese beating T-John's endoskeleton with a metal limb while he shouts "Now Sarah!" and she starts pumping it full of rounds with her super shotgun. It was a very awesome tribute to the final battle of Reese in T1 *AND* Sarah trying to take out the T1000 with her shotgun in T2 and it was really cool seeing both finales kind of fused together a bit.

But of course they can't kill T-John so Pops grabs him, turns on the prototype time machine, pulls John into it while Sarah is freaking out. T-John looks human be is still coated in metal at a cellular level so he's vulnerable to the machine. Sarah pleads with Pops to get out of the machine because he's so BD he also has lots of metal exposed, Pops says one last line that really did make me tear up a bit and he sacrifices himself to obliterate the screaming T-John in the time displacement field.

Reese and Sarah have the obligatory escape out of the exploding building scene where Genisys is stopped from going live due to the explosion of the time field.

There's a last spoiler or two that I'll still not share but it has to do with leaving the movie open for a sequel. Even though this is the first of a supposed trilogy it really had a satisfying finale since they really did kill T-John. Which really made for an awkward dilemma for Reese and Sarah. They pretty much determined that they can never have sex since they don't want to create evil John but the movie ends with the assumption that they'll probably still hook up since they think Skynet is destroyed and that they're all "safe."
 
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Join us. We don't have good taste in films, we don't have bad taste, we have something more...

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And I see that rottentomatoes has it up to 26% now. Woohoo, we're making a run! :yess: :lol

Actually rottentomatoes has it as:

Critics: 26% approval
Audience: 72% approval

Interesting. That's one heck of a gap.
 
How do they justify Reese in this timeline, looking like a super buff Shane from TWD?? :lol

Answer me THAT.

Well you won't hear any justification from me as I definitely found him to be the weak link in the cast. He has a couple moments where he's decent but overall he suffers in comparison to Michael Biehn and there's just no way around it. As far as him looking and acting different well the move does actually

embrace the "parallel timelines" concept so you can look at Biehn as Reese #1 and Courtney as Reese #2 in an alternate universe that exists separately from the first two films. Reese actually sees flashes of parallel timelines when he goes through the field. The alternate timelines do factor into the plot but I think it was Alan Taylor's way of allowing the story to "overwrite" T1 and T2 while still keeping them "separate" out of respect for those first films.
 
Oh really (Reese's flashes)?? Wow.

I guess it's kinda like Anton Yelchin in T-4, he was more like a young Hawkeye from Mash than Reese, but hey - he still got cast. :lol
 
I must admit, I'm a light weight when it comes to the intricacies of Terminator lore & debate, but it's always enjoyable to read the great posts that offer food for thought, as well as great points / counter points. I -as many here, grew up with the first two films, & to see the saga morph into what it is today.. is weird.

Who would've thought Arnold would be making T-films well into the new millennium? My friends & I were hanging on every bit of news before T-3 was released, because we thought it was for sure going to be Arnold's 'last hurrah'.. but although I too actually don't mind the movie.. it was far from memorable.

That said, I enjoyed reading Khev's points on the pros of T-3.

the blood-gasm thing though, yeah - STUPID!!! :lol
 
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