Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

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would've he just lived a life as that cop collecting a pension.


I can't believe Pops was a construction worker. That and "Sarah, you love Elton John" was pretty cringe worthy.



Do you think the Linda Hamilton T2 Sarah Connor ever told John how much she loved Rocketman (heh, get it, Rocketman)? I don't think so.
 
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I wonder what the T-1000 would've done had he succeeded killing John at the arcade in T2.

Would've he continued on to kill Sarah, would've he just lived a life as that cop collecting a pension.

That's actually a cool idea to take the Terminator franchise in a completely new direction.

No, I'm serious. What if the machines succeeded? What if they kill Sarah Connor!?

That's your opening. Blow people away. What!? They killed Sarah Connor? So the T-1000 completes its mission and... shuts down... or tries unsuccessfully to destroy itself. We find the technology... you see where this is going. No matter what, life finds a way, history repeats itself... and a new "Dyson" will be born, a new "Sarah" will step forward... and a new timeline that means the defeat of SkyNet is set.

The machines inevitable flaw is: they create their own demise in their attempts to stop it.


Come on, that's good...
 
No, Arnold may have been my least favourite thing in this film. He was a parody once again.

I could see how you'd be put off by Guardian if you weren't on board for the--**** I'm trying to type a serious response with that hideous *thing* spazzing out in your quoted post above.

Okay, scrolling down the page so I don't have to look at it...and one more time:

I could see how you'd be put off by Guardian if you weren't on board for the Pops/Sarah bond. That's the heart of the movie. Take that away then you've got "Old but not obsolete," monkey smiles and all that. But I was okay with all of it. Hell I even stomached the smile due to how he abruptly dropped it and quickly went back to his more business-like scowl. For whatever reason I was just in full seal mode from beginning to end. Is there any joke in this movie that actually is clever? Because at one point I literally was the only one who laughed out loud in the crowded theater and I remember thinking, "Seriously? You guys didn't catch that?" But now I can't remember what it was.

Anyway, I liked him "feeling," kind of felt bad the way

Reese and Sarah just split in the time machine and he was left to stand there motionless, knowing he wouldn't see them again for *33 years.* Yeah he was a robot, but still, I got suckered into "caring."

I even laughed at the mug shot stuff and "until I got laid off."
 
That's actually a cool idea to take the Terminator franchise in a completely new direction.

No, I'm serious. What if the machines succeeded? What if they kill Sarah Connor!?

That's your opening. Blow people away. What!? They killed Sarah Connor? So the T-1000 completes its mission and... shuts down... or tries unsuccessfully to destroy itself. We find the technology... you see where this is going. No matter what, life finds a way, history repeats itself... and a new "Dyson" will be born, a new "Sarah" will step forward... and a new timeline that means the defeat of SkyNet is set.

The machines inevitable flaw is: they create their own demise in their attempts to stop it.


Come on, that's good...

We just did our own reverse engineering on the opposite side of the reverse engineering they did for TG.

Boom!
 
Looks like it will be:

1. Inside/Out (boring movie for kids)
2. JW
3. TG
4. Magic Mike

No! It's a fantastic movie, you should see it.

:lol :lol :lol

I wonder what the T-1000 would've done had he succeeded killing John at the arcade in T2.

Would've he continued on to kill Sarah, would've he just lived a life as that cop collecting a pension.

He'd have just sat around in a convenient place for a coincidence.

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Overall I liked the movie. They were bits and pieces that I did not care for. Why is it, that Hollywood always seems to
feel the need to put a human face to a computer program? I don't get the whole personalization of Skynet. Skynet being scary is that it was an uncaring unfeeling computer program. Why the heck use Matt Smith has Skynet?
 
Overall I liked the movie. They were bits and pieces that I did not care for. Why is it, that Hollywood always seems to
feel the need to put a human face to a computer program? I don't get the whole personalization of Skynet. Skynet being scary is that it was an uncaring unfeeling computer program. Why the heck use Matt Smith has Skynet?

Yup, it was bad in TS and it was bad in TG.

Leaving things to the imagination is good.

But Da Cloud Yo.

All your Skynet are belong to us.
 
That's actually a cool idea to take the Terminator franchise in a completely new direction.

No, I'm serious. What if the machines succeeded? What if they kill Sarah Connor!?

That's your opening. Blow people away. What!? They killed Sarah Connor? So the T-1000 completes its mission and... shuts down... or tries unsuccessfully to destroy itself. We find the technology... you see where this is going. No matter what, life finds a way, history repeats itself... and a new "Dyson" will be born, a new "Sarah" will step forward... and a new timeline that means the defeat of SkyNet is set.

The machines inevitable flaw is: they create their own demise in their attempts to stop it.


Come on, that's good...





 
I liked how

John came down the line to rescue young Reese. Had a "Batman Begins" vibe and was a believable explanation for Reese's lifelong awe and admiration of him. Sure it didn't really match up with Reese's explanation to Sarah that Terminators were released close to the end of the war but for the purpose of establishing the connection between Reese and John it really worked.
 
No, Arnold may have been my least favourite thing in this film. He was a parody once again.

I've been trying to post more thoughts on the film but it's been an exercise in futility all yesterday and today.



Ever since T3 his "robotic" personality when he portays the character bugs me. It feels forced and really wooden. The "theoretically speaking" **** bugged the hell out of me. He doesn't even do the "scanning" right like in the first two.

I know in T2, he talked like a robot. "Mimetic polyalloy", "tactically dangerous", "affirmative", etc. but it always felt natural, you know what I mean? The analytical/computer talk wasn't a point of humor, even when John would point it out. With T3 and Genisys it feels like we're supposed to be laughing at him. The difference between Arnold's performances in the Cameron films vs. the other two are light and day in my opinion. In the first two, those T-800s actually feel like cool characters to me. "Nothing clean, right" or "wrong" don't feel awkward. Even when Uncle Bob is saying "chill out . . . **** was", it doesn't seem cringe worthy.

I'm not saying that his performances in the first two are some avan grade, Shakespearean caliber acting, but it does feel natural. That smile Uncle Bob cracks at when he's holding be minigun in the weapons cache or the sly "trust me" with the twinkle in his eye at Cyberdyne is earned because of what the audience has invested with the characters. The thumbs up at the end too. "Pops" had none of that. It really feels like the filmmakers saw that T2 deleted scene and mimicked it like "see, see, remember that from T2" without really having understood it.

I mean come on, I don't want to be cynical here, but Uncle Bob learns these human gestures in what, the span of 24 to 48 hours and goes from ultimate stoic, steely eyed machine you don't want to **** with,


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to a subtle, **** eating grin that tells John and the audience "hey, it's me", "I got this", "don't worry".


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There's an actual pay off. With Pops, the stupid robo-grin THREE friggin times is at the expense of the character. So for a decade, Pops never learned to perfect a smile? Huh? He still talks like a ****ing idiot with terms like "mating", and "obsolete"? I also hated the SFX, every time he moved or made a facial expression it made that cutesy "robot" sound. You know what I'm talking about. Cameron never did that with his Terminator films. There was humor but it was subtle, it was earned, it felt real. In Genisys Arnold is just strutting around like a literal big lug, looking the same in every scene and saying the same lines. It makes me wonder if he even remembers or understood the original intentions with the first two films or even cares. In those two, yeah, it might not have been nuanced or method acting, but he seemed sincere.
 
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