Too many movie goers don't demand enough from films nowadays, that's why so many bad films are box office hits.
Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
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Too many movie goers don't demand enough from films nowadays, that's why so many bad films are box office hits.
I'm pretty sure that the studio was just bursting to tell this amazing story and finally got their wish when Arnold returned to acting.
Me too. Those were the worst.
Ok so I seen this movie last night, no way I was passing on a terminator film even though my first impressions from the trailers were making me sick, I was of the mind that this at best would be a T3 clone which wasn't good. However I will say Overall I enjoyed it for the summer movie it was, not the terminator movie it is, it once again lost the feel of the first 2 films, the seriousness aspect.
I really enjoyed the first part, some of the future war was cool, and I would have loved to see that movie, the continuation from salvation, leading up to 2032 final battle, endos everywhere, terminators and plasma rifles fighting the resistance, the whole war we were always show from beginning that was going to take place, but for some reason no one tells that story except Salvation took a early shot at it which I liked.
I also liked some of the 84 action scenes to, the fight with 84 T800 and pops was cool but to brief, I wanted more so when he is reactivated I got that extra thrill, he got to be badass for another couple of minutes, again not enough for me but hopefully enough to hope for a HT figure to be made of him or maybe the 73 pops version.
The smile scenes were annoying to me but my wife seemed to get a kick out of them, I didn't like Reese in this or the John Connor much ether, however Sarah Connor was fantastic, in some scenes she almost looks exactly like Linda's Sarah, overall it was a ride that I'm glad I took even though its not the movie I wanted.
Only thing I seemed to miss and the one point I haven't figured out yet is who sent Pops back to 73
I would rate the series like this now, not a raving review but somewhat enjoyable for me, it was better than T3, not that that's saying much
#1 T1
#2 T2
#3 T4
#4 T5
#5 T3
I really enjoyed the first part, some of the future war was cool, and I would have loved to see that movie, the continuation from salvation, leading up to 2032 final battle, endos everywhere, terminators and plasma rifles fighting the resistance, the whole war we were always show from beginning that was going to take place, but for some reason no one tells that story except Salvation took a early shot at it which I liked.
I also liked some of the 84 action scenes to, the fight with 84 T800 and pops was cool but to brief, I wanted more so when he is reactivated I got that extra thrill, he got to be badass for another couple of minutes, again not enough for me but hopefully enough to hope for a HT figure to be made of him or maybe the 73 pops version.
The smile scenes were annoying to me but my wife seemed to get a kick out of them, I didn't like Reese in this or the John Connor much ether, however Sarah Connor was fantastic, in some scenes she almost looks exactly like Linda's Sarah, overall it was a ride that I'm glad I took even though its not the movie I wanted.
Only thing I seemed to miss and the one point I haven't figured out yet is who sent Pops back to 73
I would rate the series like this now, not a raving review but somewhat enjoyable for me, it was better than T3, not that that's saying much
#1 T1
#2 T2
#3 T4
#4 T5
#5 T3
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I'm worried I won't be able to "unsee" this movie. It sounds like a complete cr@pfest with so many ideas being pushed and writers not knowing where to take it. Not to mention the leads are so physically different from the originals it completely irritates me. I understand that they felt they needed to shoehorn Arnold into this once again, but his time has passed. Anyway, doubtful there will be any sequels, although I would not count out a total reboot which is what it probably truly needed.
While T1 and moreso T2 are just in a class by themselves, I find T3 watchable, and certainly better than TS. The biggest problem I had with T3 was the casting of Nick Stahl. The direction was nowhere near as crisp or confident as Cameron, the acting was cringe worthy at times, and Arnold was clearly in it for a big payday (somewhere in the neighborhood of $40M plus a percentage of the profits). However the movie did have its decent parts. Loken was hot, I liked the T-X design and the movie didn't try to do too much or get esoteric, although it was somewhat of a retread. It was also an innovative next leap that she could inject nanos and take over electronics. I also liked the ending quite a bit. Plus they showed bits of the future war, although again Stahl looked completely unconvincing and wimpy as an aged and battle hardened John Connor. I do wonder if having Furlong back and at least a cameo or a few good scenes from Hamilton would have upped the movie somewhat. One thing that could have been cool would have been to have the T-X mimic Sarah at some point, which could have been both a trippy and emotional scene. Oh well.
Unless a friend drags me, I'll probably just catch this on digital. Never had the desire to see it in the theater.
While T1 and moreso T2 are just in a class by themselves, I find T3 watchable, and certainly better than TS. The biggest problem I had with T3 was the casting of Nick Stahl. The direction was nowhere near as crisp or confident as Cameron, the acting was cringe worthy at times, and Arnold was clearly in it for a big payday (somewhere in the neighborhood of $40M plus a percentage of the profits). However the movie did have its decent parts. Loken was hot, I liked the T-X design and the movie didn't try to do too much or get esoteric, although it was somewhat of a retread. It was also an innovative next leap that she could inject nanos and take over electronics. I also liked the ending quite a bit. Plus they showed bits of the future war, although again Stahl looked completely unconvincing and wimpy as an aged and battle hardened John Connor. I do wonder if having Furlong back and at least a cameo or a few good scenes from Hamilton would have upped the movie somewhat. One thing that could have been cool would have been to have the T-X mimic Sarah at some point, which could have been both a trippy and emotional scene. Oh well.
Unless a friend drags me, I'll probably just catch this on digital. Never had the desire to see it in the theater.
Ok so I seen this movie last night, no way I was passing on a terminator film even though my first impressions from the trailers were making me sick, I was of the mind that this at best would be a T3 clone which wasn't good. However I will say Overall I enjoyed it for the summer movie it was, not the terminator movie it is, it once again lost the feel of the first 2 films, the seriousness aspect.
I really enjoyed the first part, some of the future war was cool, and I would have loved to see that movie, the continuation from salvation, leading up to 2032 final battle, endos everywhere, terminators and plasma rifles fighting the resistance, the whole war we were always show from beginning that was going to take place, but for some reason no one tells that story except Salvation took a early shot at it which I liked.
I also liked some of the 84 action scenes to, the fight with 84 T800 and pops was cool but to brief, I wanted more so when he is reactivated I got that extra thrill, he got to be badass for another couple of minutes, again not enough for me but hopefully enough to hope for a HT figure to be made of him or maybe the 73 pops version.
The smile scenes were annoying to me but my wife seemed to get a kick out of them, I didn't like Reese in this or the John Connor much ether, however Sarah Connor was fantastic, in some scenes she almost looks exactly like Linda's Sarah, overall it was a ride that I'm glad I took even though its not the movie I wanted.
Only thing I seemed to miss and the one point I haven't figured out yet is who sent Pops back to 73
I would rate the series like this now, not a raving review but somewhat enjoyable for me, it was better than T3, not that that's saying much
#1 T1
#2 T2
#3 T4
#4 T5
#5 T3
That's how I feel about it too, Pete. I wish the film kept the tone of the 84' section of the film... but it didn't. I appreciate TS since it was a more serious film than the other two, but again like this was miss cast all over the place. If I had to rank them?
T1,T2,T5,T4,T3
The only thing I liked about this film, that it broke the mold of the series in a good amount of places... but fell back into the same pattern of the first two films.
And if I had to guess, whatever they're kid turns out to be... would be who sent Pops back. Whether it's a son or daughter has yet to be established.
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Ok that's what I figured in re-guards to 73 Pops, I was worried I missed something when I took a restroom break
Your right the amount of places and places in time this movie travels to is fun, it really is a ride and doesn't have any real slow spots, nearly all action all the way. I also Liked the that they used Mile's son Danny as a head member of the new company, very fitting for the time line. Another thing that's got me confused is what exactly is John Connor, did some sort of program invade him human body and turn him into that or was he killed and replaced by that weird terminator, kind of like an advanced version or Marcus Wright, cause from the look of things in the movie it seems like when he was grabbed his body was getting infected.
If he was infected by some skynet terminator virus it also looks like he was doing the same thing to Sarah near the end
This movie created more questions than answers, to be honest I'm not sure they are even meant to be answered or just cheesy gimmicks to move the story along.
Ok that's what I figured in re-guards to 73 Pops, I was worried I missed something when I took a restroom break
Your right the amount of places and places in time this movie travels to is fun, it really is a ride and doesn't have any real slow spots, nearly all action all the way. I also Liked the that they used Mile's son Danny as a head member of the new company, very fitting for the time line. Another thing that's got me confused is what exactly is John Connor, did some sort of program invade him human body and turn him into that or was he killed and replaced by that weird terminator, kind of like an advanced version or Marcus Wright, cause from the look of things in the movie it seems like when he was grabbed his body was getting infected.
If he was infected by some skynet terminator virus it also looks like he was doing the same thing to Sarah near the end
This movie created more questions than answers, to be honest I'm not sure they are even meant to be answered or just cheesy gimmicks to move the story along.
John was a duplicate of whatever that Skynetminator was I guess... but begs the question as why even bother making Endos when you got the one machine army thing itself was? Just make more of those. I was just thinking why didn't Judgment Day happen in 1997 in the offshoot timeline, and I just remembered that the T-800 never got crushed in the Cyberdyne factory... so they never got the chip. If the trilogy does happen, I assume the last film will take place in the future. I think Arnold only signed on for two movies, correct me if I'm wrong.
For those who didn't pick up on it from the movie or weren't 100% sure:
Matt Smith's Skynet was indeed a being from a completely separate but parallel universe who found a way to travel between dimensions. So while many of us have theorized on the possibility of interpreting the events that way, I think we all assumed that Cameron just had the one timeline, one universe, paradoxes and all. So Genisys really is adding something new here. Not just time traveling which we've seen three times before but dimensional travel as well.
Matt Smith was never a part of Cameron's loop, so we wouldn't ever have to watch T1 or T2 as if he was (not that we'd choose to do that anyway.) Rather he's a dimensional party crasher that came to Cameron's loop because he determined this was the best place he could "win." With him comes whatever new Skynet technology that would have existed in his home dimension. Maybe in Matt Smith's world Judgment Day occurred in the year 2319 so his robotics and "personality" are much more advanced. He's bringing those advancements to the 2029 war where he infects John and tries to establish himself in 2017.
'Terminator Genisys' Writers Tease "Multiverse" Sequels
Matt Smith was never a part of Cameron's loop, so we wouldn't ever have to watch T1 or T2 as if he was (not that we'd choose to do that anyway.) Rather he's a dimensional party crasher that came to Cameron's loop because he determined this was the best place he could "win." With him comes whatever new Skynet technology that would have existed in his home dimension. Maybe in Matt Smith's world Judgment Day occurred in the year 2319 so his robotics and "personality" are much more advanced. He's bringing those advancements to the 2029 war where he infects John and tries to establish himself in 2017.
'Terminator Genisys' Writers Tease "Multiverse" Sequels
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That was one of the things my buddy and I were talking about. Pops n group taking out the first terminator and eliminating its remains stopped Miles from creating Skynet and Judgment Day. Only this time it skips military application and goes directly for the population by his son.
Maybe the resistance should send troops back to take out Miles Dyson's family tree. Then we have the machines sending back Terminators to protect them.
jye4ever
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Good call. Skynet sends Pops to "protect" Sarah from the first T-800 because it realizes that all timelines where the scrap is found by Dyson end in Skynet's destruction. It still wants to be created, just not that way. So Sarah thinks that a machine is "saving" her when really it is only cleaning up the "mess" left by that first travel back through time. So Pops is basically a "Wolf Predator" and doesn't even know it. Skynet "erases the mistake" and infects John from ANOTHER universe to possibly deter Sarah from hooking up with Reese in this one. Skynet knows their child would NOT turn evil which is why it sent the John from Cameron's loop into their dimension as a cautionary tale to trick them into not making him in their world.
This new take on the series really does have genuine promise depending on how they handle it.
Uhh, you've put doubt in my mind now. It was definitely there in the trailers but I could have sworn I was hearing it in the movie aswell. I think there was a sound effect whenever his hand malfunctioned, unless I was hearing that and assuming it was there when he smiled too. Point is, you would only hear anything like these mechanical sounds in Cameron's film when endoskeleton was exposed and presumably the muscle and flesh wasn't obscuring the noise of the pistons and so on.
Bold on the writers part...interesting but still a bit of a head****. Why travel between dimensions? Can't Matt Smith just win in his own dimension and be satisfied with that? Isn't there 'theoretically' unlimited parallel universes? Will Skynet be satisfied just conquering the first one it happens to enter?
Maybe you can't use time-travel to "win" in your own dimension. The timeline will always adjust to make things play out the same way. But Skynet is always about cheating so maybe it hatches the idea of entering another dimension where it won't be constrained by the "rules" of time-travel.
I'm just wondering, if Skynet is so advanced in its dimension of origin A) how did it come to be so and B) how come it still apparently wasn't winning? Or did it in fact win and then just got bored and decided to see what else it could **** around with?
It was not a good weekend for Arnold Schwarzenegger to be back at the box office.
"Terminator Genisys," the fifth film in the franchise, grossed just $44.2 million over the five-day holiday weekend.
In three days, the film made $28.7 million.
Remember, it was less than a month ago that the fourth installment of "Jurassic World" opened to a surprising $209 million.
A week after that, Disney and Pixar's "Inside Out" had a $90 million opening weekend.
"Genisys" had the worst opening of nearly all the "Terminator" movies.
Read more: Box Office: 'Terminator Genisys' opening weekend - Business Insider
"Terminator Genisys," the fifth film in the franchise, grossed just $44.2 million over the five-day holiday weekend.
In three days, the film made $28.7 million.
Remember, it was less than a month ago that the fourth installment of "Jurassic World" opened to a surprising $209 million.
A week after that, Disney and Pixar's "Inside Out" had a $90 million opening weekend.
"Genisys" had the worst opening of nearly all the "Terminator" movies.
Read more: Box Office: 'Terminator Genisys' opening weekend - Business Insider
Not sure how accurate that is, it was posted yesterday at about 7 pm est not truly accounting for the full weekend, never the less I'm not surprised its not a mega blockbuster, Arnolds star power does not compute with the younger generations so well which is a big part of the movie going crowd.
I went last night and it was pretty well packed not that that means anything.
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My thoughts on this film are about the same as both you Snake and Pete. I've always wanted to see a sequel where they focus on the future war or at least show more of it. Hopefully we'll get that in a sequel. Those 80's scenes were great and I did want more of it. My expectations going into this movie we're very low but it wasn't too bad of a movie. Plenty of action with very little down time. Definitely better than T3.Similar threads
