Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

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You not familiar with Chronicle Collectibles then?
They're going to town with high end merch.

Oh wow, yeah I thought he just meant low end collectibles. Chronicle is indeed going crazy with high end merch. 1/4 scale Endo and Arnold, 1:1 Endo skull and full size statue, 1:18 Spider Tank, 1:1 Resistance Rifles with 1/4 Sarah and T-John on the way.
 
Neca announced another 7" T-1000 from T2, I missed that. :slap

Plus a Sarah as well. :slap :slap

Yeah, both are part of the "ultimate" line, but they don't come out until the fall.

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And I thought Uncle Bob's battle damage already contradicted the "dead cat" deteriorating meat of the first Terminator so if Genisys says he can regrow it now why not.

Uncle Bob sustained all that damage in one night though, he didn't have time to rot. It didn't contradict anything because he was terminated by molten steel before the sun came up that morning. From the time the T2 Arnold rips off it's arm skin to being lowered into the steel, it has been less than 12 hours. From the time the SWAT teams light him up with bullets to the time he's lowered into the steel is less than an hour! I'm sure if Uncle Bob stayed with Sarah and John, he would have been nice and ripe the following day.

T1 Terminator was walking around with gaping wounds that it left open for atleast two days. It couldn't exactly pull out slugs in it's back like Uncle Bob considering he had a helping hand with Sarah and John in that garage.
 
Uncle Bob had only sustained light hits to his back prior to Cyberdyne huh. That's right. I'll give you that, everything else (other than the arm thing) was actually just from the SWAT Team. T-1000 detaching a glob of his secondary power cell was still cool though.
 
I guess it makes sense an Asian T-1000 being more advanced.

American T-1000 was like a crappy Ford compared to Toshiba-1000.
 
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The biggest thing that raised my eyebrows when watching Genisys was Reese

actually grappling a T-1000 and disarming him. When that happened I assumed that Byung-Hun Lee MUST be a human who was about to be killed and copied by the T-1000. When he said "The year you come back" or whatever I thought "whaaat?" that Reese could have engaged him without getting quickly grappled and skewered. But I know they were just trying to come up with a way for Reese to be "sampled by physical contact" so that they could have the big two Reeses scene with Sarah later.

I thought about how they might have been able to stage Reese's interaction with him better and pondered this little "what if" scenario:

When John was asking for volunteers to enter the time machine and half a dozen people raised their voices why not just send them all? Increase their chances and all that. Then for this movie since they're already changing things have six soldiers drop out of the air in the alley. One of them falls to the side and gets immediately skewered by a wrought iron fence (as an homage to the original rough draft where a second soldier appears inside a grate.) The other four plus Reese start booking down the alley and the one cop chases them.

An aggressive Resistance fighter grabs the cop, tosses his gun to Reese, and then just gets ripped apart. Everyone starts freaking out as the cop starts swinging arm blades and stabbing people left and right. Reese gets a little slice across the shoulder, boom, there's your physical contact. But the T-1000 still gets to kick ass and slaughters everyone while Reese gets away. Have him inside the department store and meet up with the cops and then the rest of that scene plays out as it did in the movie.
 
The biggest thing that raised my eyebrows when watching Genisys was Reese

actually grappling a T-1000 and disarming him. When that happened I assumed that Byung-Hun Lee MUST be a human who was about to be killed and copied by the T-1000. When he said "The year you come back" or whatever I thought "whaaat?" that Reese could have engaged him without getting quickly grappled and skewered. But I know they were just trying to come up with a way for Reese to be "sampled by physical contact" so that they could have the big two Reeses scene with Sarah later.

I thought about how they might have been able to stage Reese's interaction with him better and pondered this little "what if" scenario:

When John was asking for volunteers to enter the time machine and half a dozen people raised their voices why not just send them all? Increase their chances and all that. Then for this movie since they're already changing things have six soldiers drop out of the air in the alley. One of them falls to the side and gets immediately skewered by a wrought iron fence (as an homage to the original rough draft where a second soldier appears inside a grate.) The other four plus Reese start booking down the alley and the one cop chases them.

An aggressive Resistance fighter grabs the cop, tosses his gun to Reese, and then just gets ripped apart. Everyone starts freaking out as the cop starts swinging arm blades and stabbing people left and right. Reese gets a little slice across the shoulder, boom, there's your physical contact. But the T-1000 still gets to kick ass and slaughters everyone while Reese gets away. Have him inside the department store and meet up with the cops and then the rest of that scene plays out as it did in the movie.

They should've never shown JC being assimilated by Nintendo-net before Reeces Pieces warped out.

The trailer really didn't ruin anything, we would've known 10 minutes into the movie. :lol

Because TX's have been retconned out of existence. :lol

Lokken had quite the body. :lol
 
The trailer really didn't ruin anything, we would've known 10 minutes into the movie. :lol

I've thought about that. If none of us had seen the trailers how would we taken John's attack? I wondered if we all would have immediately figured that he was working for the Dark Side the moment we saw him again and that the "spoiler" would have been moot anyway.
 
Salvation was a masterpiece next to this.

Saw Genisys yesterday. While I liked the concept of the aging Guardian the rest of it was pure shlock. They took the greatest aspects of the first two films and completely watered them down and recycled them for the ADD generation. It disrespected the **** out of everything that made this franchise special. I absolutely hated this movie.
 
Despite the few people here that "liked" the movie -- and I say "liked' because not one of you seals really seemed genuine about the movie; seemed much more like instant semi-gratification that will wear off as quickly as your early love for Superman Returns -- anyway, despite the few, seems the many have answered with non-interest in this old one-note franchise. Without new ideas, the Terminator as a concept is done. I don't count time-travel as a solution, just a cheap excuse to replay.

But anything can come back from the dead as we've seen with JW and FR... but it needs genuine talent, love and new ideas at work.
 
Finished up the second half of T2. I know I tend to go off about its lighter moments and "sanitized violence" compared to The Terminator but damn, watching that after T3 and Genisys it is ****ing bleak. :lol

But it is indeed good. Damn good. Those final moments with Uncle Bob are just perfect. Though when John and the T-800 were hugging I did imagine for a second that same John growing up to one day be corrupted by Skynet and then
killed by a loyal Terminator in front of the very same woman who stood next to him in that very moment
and that was actually pretty brutal.

Funny that that kind of makes it a "reverse Jake Lloyd" scenario. Everyone likes the kid, not so in love with the villain he becomes instead of the other way around.

T-800 definitely didn't have any time to start "decomposing" a la Terminator 1 but since I only watch the theatrical edition of that movie it definitely didn't have a "fragile chip" in it. John aggressively smashes its glass container on the floor without it appearing any the worse for wear.

Brad Fiedel was such a huge part of the "feel" of those first two films. And even though T2 invented the main title theme that everyone associates with Terminator it is funny how much Genisys overused it. Three times in fact, during the "I've been waiting for you," when Reese sees him in the back of the armored truck, and then one last time when he does his little helicopter free fall thing.

Fiedel obviously never intended for it to be used that way. The closest he ever comes is when Arnold approaches the window with the minigun but even then the "dun dun dun dun" is not quite the same beat we get during the title sequence and it's actually quite muted. Then when he kicks the desk out and starts going to town on the cops the sound effects almost completely drown out the music.

It was a good movie, it really was. Clearly far above Genisys but as I said before I take all three films (T1, T2, and Genisys) as their own things and don't really fret at how perfectly they fit together with one another.
 
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