Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

[WesMordine]

Just watched the film. It's entertaining!

I think Skynet was stopped from coming in 2017. But being a piece of software, it may have backed itself up (or is it backuped itself?).

And Emilia Clarke is hot! Killer eyes...

 

[JAWS]

And JAWS is the perfect blockbuster machine.


And I'm glad someone finally called Terminator what it is: a great sci-fi HORROR movie.

3rd best Horror sci fi ever (The Thing #1 ALIEN #2 )

 

[Vitus]

Give me a Bad Ass Bill Paxton any day over Mullet head Bauer!

Me too. Nice Near Dark gif

 

[LexiKon318]

Just saw this today ... haven't looked back in the thread to see what the consensus is, but I really enjoyed this! I thought they did a really good job. There is one question I have that wasn't answered that I hope will ge revealed in the next one.

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[LexiKon318]

Uhm... quick question: what is the after credits scene?
I just walked out as soon as the credits started... [emoji38]

Just one thing: why are they so sure Skynet is defeated this time?

Should've stayed for the credits ha

 

[spindrift]

Just saw this today ... haven't looked back in the thread to see what the consensus is, but I really enjoyed this! I thought they did a really good job. There is one question I have that wasn't answered that I hope will ge revealed in the next one.

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there will be no next one...unfortunately

 

[WesMordine]

there will be no next one...unfortunately

Sad, if true. The film is nowhere as bad as the amount of money it's made. It's actually quite a lot of fun.

 

[cmiller99]

Uhm... quick question: what is the after credits scene?
I just walked out as soon as the credits started...

Spoiler

Matt Smith/Skynet survived the explosion and looked at the time displacement doohickey. The end.

 

[olbertfrog]

Could have been really good with the proper cast and director.
What a shame.
Oh and **** you James Cameron for endorsing this ****fest.

 

[Dyson]

Since he is such a big fan of Genesis, I decided to go back and see what Cameron said about Salvation. Something really stuck out for me.

“It probably didn’t get a fair day in court because I had to watch it at night when I got home from work, over a period of two or three nights. I think Sam [Worthington] is remarkable in the film because, well, I think Sam is remarkable in anything he does. Interestingly, I think McG did a good job in the sense…I think he was almost too referential to the mythos of the first and second film. He over-quoted them in a way?”

“It didn’t feel to me to be enough of a reinvention. I mean the thing we did with the second film is that we reinvented the first film completely; spun it on its ass and made the Terminator the good guy, and came up with a whole new concept for a villain, it felt fresh. I didn’t feel the fourth picture was fresh enough. It also lacked a certain stamp of authenticity because Arnold wasn’t in it. I mean, he was in it briefly, digitally, but that’s not the same thing.”

“I didn’t think it was bad. I didn’t think it was embarrassing. I don’t think he let the franchise down in some huge way, but I did feel some sort of unease that it didn’t go beyond.”

I'll leave the Sam Worthington comment to your own thoughts. He felt that Salvation re-treaded T1 & T2 too much but somehow Genesis didn't?


... and James Cameron on Terminator 3

James Cameron recently talked with BBC1 and revealed he's very happy with how Terminator 3 ended up: "In one word : Great. There was a small part of me that hoped it wasn't good - but another part of me hope'd it succeeded. And it did. And I'm so glad it did. Jonathon's made a great movie. Arnold's in great form. I really like what he's done with it". If he had done it, would he have handled it differently: "Yes. That's only natural. I mightn't have structrued it the same, nor may I have ended it the same way - but coming in where he has, such a hard thing to do, and I give Jonathan points for it".

Hmmmmmmmm......


Cameron's advice to arnold when he found that he was doing the newest Terminator

"Frankly, at that time, I thought it needed to be more about him," Cameron said. "I told him he should not do it until it's focused on his [T-800] character, or he shouldn't do it. I think there are some great stories that can be told about that character that haven't even been thought of yet."

Definitely alters my opinion of modern day Cameron. Even more so than Avatar did. I'm curious to see how much he alters his opinion in a few years as he seems to have done with these two.

 

[karamazov80]

He "loves" every movie Arnie is in. Cameron no doubt realizes that Arnold is as responsible for his success as any other person on the planet. Maybe he feels he owes that to him.

 

[JAWS]

Perhaps since Avatar is not much better then T3 and worse then TS he really does feel that they are good movies

They are just the type of films he happens to like.

 

[Sidewinder]

Why do people care what Cameron thinks? Do you think he's going to tell Arnie that the film he has made is bad? They've known each other for more than 30 years.



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[olbertfrog]

AVATAR no much better than T3 and worse than TS????
Say what you want about the story, like or not but AVATAR is still one of the best directed blockbuster movie out there.
Personnaly even if i find the story too derivative, its not cynical, its sincere and has heart, give the same script to any of those wannabees Directors out there no one would do it that well. And it will age very well, to me its already one of those great awesome adventure movie to share with the kids and Family for ages.
AVATAR was an origin story, well see how it goes from there.
Cameron was, is and will be always a master filmmaker.

As for Cameron, the promoter, he's smart and he knows its never good to make ennemies in the biz, you never who you might need down the road (ive seen him doing this first hand) so when i read his previous declarations i was aware that he was playing the game but to do a featurette wow thats a first.

 

[JAWS]

AVATAR no much better than T3 and worse than TS????
Say what you want about the story, like or not but AVATAR is still one of the best directed blockbuster movie out there.
Personnaly even if i find the story too derivative, its not cynical, its sincere and has heart, give the same script to any of those wannabees Directors out there no one would do it that well. And it will age very well, to me its already one of those great awesome adventure movie to share with the kids and Family for ages.
AVATAR was an origin story, well see how it goes from there.
Cameron was, is and will be always a master filmmaker.

As for Cameron, the promoter, he's smart and he knows its never good to make ennemies in the biz, you never who you might need down the road (ive seen him doing this first hand) so when i read his previous declarations i was aware that he was playing the game but to do a featurette wow thats a first.

I did not like Avatar... When I saw it in 3D I would have given it 3 out of 5 because the 3D gimmick was amazing. But watching the film again... Blah... I tend to think the directing was all that special. Other films have been far more exciting and well paced.. I had not a single care for any of the characters in the film... The EVIL cooperation and Military is getting stale and old... It just did nothing for me...

I have watched T3 and TS several times since its release. I have watched Avatar once since it's release.. My wife got me the Extended edition on Blu ray and I have yet to watch that... I just don't care enough about anything in that story. Sure it's got some Nice CGI but that is about it.

In all honesty I am not that big a Cameron fan... I think he is good at spending money and is on the edge of FX tech... But his directing is nothing special to me.. True Lies, Avatar, even T2... Non of them have stand out action moments IMO... Usually there is just some new cutting edge FX or something pretty to look at (Liquid Metal, Motion Capture, Jami Lee Curtis' Legs ). I think Cameron is at his best when he has less money (T1 and Aliens) and he is forced to use his imagination to make a scene exciting and not rely on CGI, 3D, or pretty explosions.. I do Like the Abyss also but find it flawed. I think much of the excitement that came from that film is knowing that he actually almost killed his actors.


I am not what you might call a Cameron hater either.. I don't care who makes the film as long as I like it and Cameron has made 2 of my all time fav film.. So he will always have my respect.. But I think his post Aliens films have all been disappointments.. To me anyways. It's cool if you like them.

 

[LexiKon318]

Never saw Avatar in theaters and couldn't get through the whole thing when I tried to watch it on DVD ha

 

[olbertfrog]

I did not like Avatar... When I saw it in 3D I would have given it 3 out of 5 because the 3D gimmick was amazing. But watching the film again... Blah... I tend to not the directing was all that special. Other films have made far more exciting and well paced films.. I had not a single care for any of the characters in the film... The EVIL cooperation and Military is getting stale and old... It just did nothing for me...

I have watched T3 and TS several times since its release. I have watched Avatar once since it's release.. My wife got me the Extended edition on Blu ray and I hav yet to watch that... I just don't care enough about anything in that story. Sure it's got some Nice CGI but that is about it.

In all honesty I am not that big a Cameron fan... I think he is good at spending money and is on the edge of FX tech... But his directing is nothing special to me.. True Lies, Avatar, even T2... Non of them have stand out action moments IMO... Usually there is just some new cutting edge FX or something pretty to look at (Liquid Metal, Motion Capture, Jami Lee Curtis' Legs ). I think Cameron is at his best when he has less money (T1 and Aliens) and he is forced to use his imagination to make a scene exciting and not rely on CGI, 3D, or pretty explosions.. I do Like the Abyss also but find it flawed. I think much of the excitement that came from that film is knowing that he actually almost killed his actors.


I am not what you might call a Cameron hater either.. I don't care who makes the film as long as I like it and Cameron has made 2 of my all time fav film.. So he will always have my respect.. But I think his post Aliens films have all been disappointments.. To me anyways. It's cool if you like them.

And ist cool if you dont

 

[Dyson]

I did not like Avatar... When I saw it in 3D I would have given it 3 out of 5 because the 3D gimmick was amazing. But watching the film again... Blah... I tend to not the directing was all that special. Other films have made far more exciting and well paced films.. I had not a single care for any of the characters in the film... The EVIL cooperation and Military is getting stale and old... It just did nothing for me...

Yup, The hype train was in overdrive for the 3D in Avatar. Once you take take that away its an average sci-fi flick at best.

 

[JAWS]

And ist cool if you dont

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Avatar would be a much better movie if Sam Worthington wasn't in it.

..just like T-5.